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Marisa does not feel anyone is fighting for her! The full email to the TTGF last November

“I wanted to let you know that Marisa (Dick) is now aware that she was not chosen to go to the test event in Rio,” stated a letter from Hannifer Dick’s email account on 9 November 2015. “It was posted onto the TTOC website which Thema (Williams) has shared…

“I have tried to tell her that there is hope but at this point she does not feel like anyone is fighting for her.”

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick.
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick.

The preceding email—excerpts of which were used by TV6 on Monday April 25—was sent from the email address of Hannifer Dick, the mother of Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick, on 9 November 2015, which was three weeks after Thema Williams qualified for the Rio 2016 Olympic Test event at the Glasgow 2015 World Championship.

Dick and Williams and their respective parents both signed pre-World Championship contracts, which stated that the gymnast who performed best in Glasgow would take Trinidad and Tobago’s sole berth in Rio.

Williams went on to place 59th while Dick finished 77th.

However, Dick’s email suggested that she—in tandem with second vice president Ricardo Lue Shue and Canadian choreographer Anita Pelletier—discussed setting a new qualification criteria after Williams had already earned the spot.

Pelletier noted that the trio’s machinations were meant to be private but had been leaked by “Team Thema.”

The TTGF delayed naming Williams as its appointed gymnast for three weeks, while it apparently considered setting a new yardstick. But Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) president Brian Lewis advised the gymnastics body that it was bound to give the spot to Williams.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago international gymnast Thema Williams. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago international gymnast Thema Williams.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Hannifer appeared upset by the decision.

“I do not understand why this decision was made without putting into effect the two competition still to take place,” stated the email, in bold letters. “(…) I am not entirely sure what else she can do and I am not sure how to keep her positive and motivated.

“The reasoning for not telling her right away was because we wanted her to train as if there was still a chance but after reading all that has been said she does not know what to think.

“It is a hard thing to see your child cry when she knows how hard she has worked to accomplish all that she has and to have it be so unfair to her.”

Hannifer also claimed that her daughter met the criteria for the Rio Olympic Test event while performing with an injury—believed to be a dislocated rib—in Glasgow.

Ironically, Williams was ruled out of Rio Test event due to a sore ankle, although TTGF president David Marquez made the decision without a medical report and, according to Williams’ coach John Geddert, a Brazilian doctor subsequently ruled that she was able to compete.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation officials (from right) Ricardo Lue Shue, Elicia Peters-Charles and David Marquez pose with Sport Minister Darryl Smith (second from right). (Courtesy Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation officials (from right) Ricardo Lue Shue, Elicia Peters-Charles and David Marquez pose with Sport Minister Darryl Smith (second from right).
(Courtesy Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs)

(Letter from email address of Hannifer Dick, which appeared to be sent to TTGF second vice president Ricardo Lue Shue)

At 11 pm, on 9 November 2015: I wanted to let you know that Marisa is now aware that she was not chosen to go to the test event in Rio. It was posted onto the TTOC website which Thema has shared.

Marisa is heart broken because nowhere there does it mention that she has represented Trinidad and Tobago for the last four years and has done so with the utmost respect for everyone involved.

I have tried to tell her that there is hope but at this point she does not feel like anyone is fighting for her.

Thema’s mother Helen is mentioned several times and this has all played out in the media. We have not spoken to anyone in the media nor has anyone from the media there tried to contact us.

I do not understand why this decision was made without putting into effect the two competition still to take place.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick performs at the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games. Dick was born in Canada to a Trinidadian mother, Hannifer. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick performs at the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games.
Dick was born in Canada to a Trinidadian mother, Hannifer.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Both Thema and Marisa competed in three competitions and the first being in Puerto Rico wherein Marisa did the job that was required of her. The second being Pan Am qualifications. Marisa showed that she was a true competitor and qualified a spot for Trinidad and Tobago to send a gymnast to the Pan Am Games.

Marisa tore her Achilles tendon which required surgery. She then spent the next year working hard and fighting to get back to the top of her game while still being respectful to everyone and being a good role model to everyone she has come into contact with.

Marisa has accomplished so much for Trinidad and Tobago by bringing home their first ever international medals, qualifying to the all around at the Pan Am Games and improving on her position by 6 positions.

She did this after a horrible injury and much hard work. That is dedication and a love of the sports. In the four years who has done more.

I am not entirely sure what else she can do and I am not sure how to keep her positive and motivated. The reasoning for not telling her right away was because we wanted her to train as if there was still a chance but after reading all that has been said she does not know what to think.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick competes at the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games. Dick placed 14th with a total of 51.25. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnast Marisa Dick competes at the Toronto 2015 Pan American Games.
Dick placed 14th with a total of 51.25.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

It is a hard thing to see your child cry when she knows how hard she has worked to accomplish all that she has and to have it be so unfair to her. Her words to me was “how come no one sees how much I have done?”

I have always told Marisa to believe in her self and just do what she has trained. She did just that at Worlds. We all know how injured she was and still went out and competed as the true champion she is.

We went into Worlds with two goals and those being: (1) to be able to qualify a position to the Test Event in Rio (which she did); and (2) to debut a new skill which she has spent hours upon hours learning. This is another first.

At this point, I am not sure how to help her believe. We knew that if Marisa had placed higher that we would have to prove that she deserved the position.

I never expected to have fairness taken away, I just assumed that what was right would be just that.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnasts Thema Williams (right) and Marisa Dick have fun sightseeing in Rio, after the Olympic Test event on 17 April 2016. (Courtesy Hannifer Dick)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago gymnasts Thema Williams (right) and Marisa Dick have fun sightseeing in Rio, after the Olympic Test event on 17 April 2016.
(Courtesy Hannifer Dick)

(Letter from email address of Anita Pelletier to Hannifer Dick, which is copied to Marisa Dick’s coach, Ovidiu Serban, and TTGF second vice-president Ricardo Lue Shue)

At 11.49 pm on 9 November 2015: I would like to hear back from the federation tomorrow telling us the plan for addressing this situation publicly. This is no longer private due to team Thema.

About Lasana Liburd

Lasana Liburd
Lasana Liburd is the CEO and Editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.

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303 comments

  1. Steups….she worked hard??? all that has been wiped away when she accepted a position she did not deserve. It’s like I was a nun my whole life, living my life for the Lord, and then one day I killed a man who was in the doorway of the church I wanted to pray at… he blocked me so I just pulled out a weapon and killed him.

    Not a person with sense is going to remember what good things my nun self before i killed the man who was in my way…

    So please… give me a rest with that. She took something that didn’t belong to her. Let her now reap what she has sown, and may God have mercy on her soul…

  2. M. Dick was part of the conspiracy, You really wanna tell me her mom didn’t tell her what was going too or what will be done to her a place ahead of the bonifide person to whom it was agreed would of continue to the test event and and ultimately the Olympics ….
    M. Dick was part n parcel so plz don’t assume she acted innocently “As ah child” ….

    • I have said this from the start. She is enabled to be a spoilt brat and both mother and daughter feel entitled. I still want to know what she did to have the Lue Shues sell their souls to her. And to be quite honest, however hard she thinks Marisa worked, better believe Thema had to put out more coming from this ‘third world likle island.’ Their biggest shortfall was under estimating the support the ‘likle island’ people have for OUR own.

  3. If she had an ounce of integrity she would drop out!!!

    • I agree totally its called sportsmanship but most of all integrity and she has none so you will not get my support for that i could havr simply said no bit god only wears pajamas he will deal with you he hates ugly

  4. A whiff of bias. Lol. Just a whiff of the $11.3Million worth of bias, bad mind and bobol.

  5. Is she still persistent on going Rio?

    • She going. After all of this Fruckery, she feel she have a point to prove. And I agree… prove your point madam, just like all the other dicks prove theirs. ?

  6. Remember people, these are kids caught in an unfortunate situation created by adults. I’m sure they’ve both worked very hard to get to this point in their sport, so please, when we make comments temper them with a little empathy for both of them and don’t direct our anger, frustration and harsh words at the young ladies.

  7. Another set of tears…. these people have meh tears rolling all over meh keyboard… so sorry Dickie but yuh have de whole feddies fighting , mummy fighting…. smile nah….

  8. Dick wants to be in the books for another skill That’s all. At the end of the day it’s no one’s fault but the TTGF. They are to be blamed cuz they did this to Thema. I hope she sues their socks off.

  9. Reading this article jus proving how they cheated Thema. Even after the girl earned the spot they still conspired to take it from her at all cost. And why cos Marissa cries? The point is apart from being Trini you didn’t earn the spot in the right way. There were clearly A lot of ‘string pulling’ for you. I

  10. I don’t see how she thinks she is entitled to represent us when Thema scored the highest. The highest has to compete.

  11. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO RACE and people don’t understand that the history books won’t made for black people

  12. This whole thing is playing out like a season of the game of thrones and hanifa is quite comparable to the Queen Cercies

  13. Did she try out for the Canadian team? She failed?

  14. Well maybe she should contact the Canadian ambassador to tnt. He might consider taking up he battle

  15. We r always our own worst enemy N if we can’t accept our own who the heck will. ..a born trinbagonian N a Canadian who don’t evn have a trini accent uet we forsake our own…who the hell will ever take trinidad N tobago serious in a my thing? ?? the decision those with a little power makes always make us as a country look so bad in the outer world #accepturown1st

  16. im so tired of this whole non issue

  17. Sooooo u dont wanna see your daughter cry but its ok to make somebody else’s daughter cry???? I think DICK’s mother wanted to go Rio more than DICK herself!!!! At any cost of injustice to Thema…..How did she get the support of the Gymnastics committee in the end??? Hmmmmmmmm no morals, no values, no respect, no shame!!!!

  18. That’s not a feeling booboo

  19. Why should we fight for you Marissa? Thema worked long and hard for that spot and because Yuh have the right connections Yuh bump her out with lies and now Yuh cyah take d heat! Go back to Can’t neh DA we don’t want you to represent us!

  20. Look, let she take a left yes. For once I’m happy to see injustice being consistently addressed in this country. Tough luck you’re not in the spotlight. One: let’s face it, if not for said injustice, you wouldn’t have been there anyway. Two: you’re doing this for yourself as much as the country. Just chillax and do what you need to do.

  21. Ah wonder why ?….Boo Hoo Boo Hoo

  22. Wdf u want somebody fight for u??? Steupzzz

  23. What kind of F****y I now read

  24. She damn right no one is fighting for her after what was done to Thema and even more so after she said in HER interview that her heart was CANADIANS. Let her haul her arse.

  25. The better gymmast should represent us. And the agreement both teams signed should be adhered to and enforced.

    Saying you don’t “see” race or saying that calling out race based decisions should be forgotten is to fail to accept reality as it is lived.

    If you’ve never heard the term good hair you are lucky. Thoughs of race, ethnicity, skin colour and hair texture influence many many decisions in countries like ours and in countries with “rainbow nations”. Not wanting to acknowledge the influence of these factors does not diminish their influence sadly.

  26. What in the world is GOOD HAIR. Why is there a problem between making a decision as to who is the better Gymnast. We need to forget this RAINDOW NATION Bull. There is only one HUMAN RACE and besides there is no Black or White in a Rainbow. The better Gymnast should represent us and the idiots in the race riot should come to the 21st Century and stop thinking that Human Beings are crayons.

  27. I looked at a video of Thema doing her ” floor routine ” and she looked like an athlete with OLYMPIC experience……………..she gets my vote

  28. If this ain’t machinations, then what is it? It’s downright disgraceful that the gymnastics body would operate in this manner. Shame on the team behind Dick too. The best athlete should represent, and Dick needs to understand that. This backdoor manner in which they’re trying to have her be the representative is not in the spirit of sports.

  29. “Emancipate yourself from mental slavery none but ourselves can free our minds”

    This is not a race or ethnicity issue, its about bias and nepotism!

  30. Do any of us realise that while we debate to the point of being nasty and prejudice over nationality we are losing the focus of right and wrong. I would hate to think that we (T&T) so desperate for medal success and recognition that we are willing to relinquish integrity and principle. Fact is there are rules,regulations and laws for a reason once circumvented they are breached. In my honest opinion once the person who legitimately qualified was removed by tweaking said rules to accommodate another then Trinidad and Tobago was by extension removed. We have NO ONE that qualified for that spot save the one who legitimately did ,manipulation by individual or team/representative automatically disqualifies the other. So lets try for the next competition.

    • Earl Best

      You’re a voice crying in the wilderness if ever there was one. In unprincipled country, politics prevails.

      • Wholesomely agree Mr.Best we do reside in an unprincipled country. Where ministers can lie in parliament without being admonished,where a President can be compensated financially via an allowance in lieu of a house, yet reside in one paid for by the state(albeit temporary). We have had many foreign athletes with Trinbagonian parentage with whom symbiotic deals were made so that we at least may savor the thought of glory. A great teacher once told me “character is not commodity,it cannot and must not be bargained one must have principle and scruples which must maintain its value through one’s life”. That was on the front steps of the N. Block of QRC. You were that teacher Mr.Best. I still believe in that,as well “evil triumphs when good men do nothing”. Thanks for the lessons, if we shrug this off as we’ve other breaches,politics or not we continue to struggle in the quagmire of our own inaction.

  31. Thema could’ve given those US girls some competition tho.. powerful in her routines

  32. Tell me the mother “bribed her point of view” that The Dhickk needs to be deserved???

  33. This was the wheel of fortune big money

  34. One can get from Port of Spain to Rio in as little as 12hrs (including connection) the average time is about 15hrs connections included

  35. This country is a big fucking joke across the board…

  36. Isn’t she the girl who said although she has Trini in her, she’s Canadian to her heart?

  37. Marisa u know u didn’t go to Rio on ur own merit so do d right thing and step down n gv Thema back her rightful place that she earned to represent her country

  38. Gerard you’re entitled to your opinions but don’t presume to know that we’ll change our tune if the girl medals ….it’s the principle of the thing or did you miss the train? Marissa has manipulated her way into the spot with biased help ….that is unacceptable and makes anything she achieves in that status flawed! How is it bandwagonists for standing for what is right? Absolute bollocks!!

  39. how yuh gonna put Anya in that same boat with this doh?
    nah mannnnn..that realllll far off the bandwagon lol

    • At the end of the day I choose not to judge, but keep an open mind and trust in the individual. I loved Anya and was really upset with the cards that were dealt to her and felt proud of her achievements. I have nothing against Marisa nor Thema. I am not fighting either, love for them both.

    • Gerard…i understand you probably dont know the fine details about this case..but i know you’re not saying that if an injustice was done to Thema and Marisa was put in her place simply bcus the TTGF and others felt she was the better gymnast that all of T&T should turn a blind eye and just go with the flow and be thankful we have somebody at the Olympics even if an injustice was done…I know that’s not what you’re saying at all, Gerard.

  40. I am one Trinbagonian who doesn’t share the views of most. If one thing is clear to me is that we are emotional in our thinking and bandwagonist. I have seen it with Anya and others. When Anya photos were leaked most were applaud and had a lot to say. Look what happened after winning a top designer competition. Whether your decision is to go with either young woman, I am sure they would do their best to make us proud. I am not going to speculate or jump to conclusions. If Marisa were to return from the Olympics with a medal they all will be singing a different song. At the end of the day I would HOPE the TTOC will put their best foot forward.

  41. Snap, snap,snap,snap, snap,snap,snap!

  42. As I read Ms Dick’s emails about the Rio TTGF representation fiasco I realised that Ms Dick has a profound understanding of how the cultures of post colonial states work.

    You see in these cultures the most valuable tears are the tears of either a white woman or one who looks more white than not with good hair!!!!

    In those cultures all must be done to prevent the shedding of white or brown tears. Everyone understands and pretends that White or Indian women are the personification of delicacy and powerlessness and must at all times be protected, shielded and prevented from the grittier side of life.

    I’ve seen white and Indian women leverage the delicate flower card many many times to great benefit. For jobs, for help, for favours.

    Black women and especially dark skinned black women cannot play that card. Because we all “know” the descendants of field niggers are inherently strong, have broad backs and “could take it” right!!! So a black woman and especially a dark black woman has to PROVE she deserves a place she earned while the other delicate flowers only need shed a tear and will be magically gifted whatever they want at the expense of those less able to play the delicate flower card.

    And since niggers were so well trained during religion and slavery we are expected to forgive the who steal or places through foul underhanded means and turn around and also protect these delicate flowers.

    God forbid a black person especially a woman and a dark skinned one at that play “uppity” and demand her rights!!! The collective, the TTGF now have to show her her place!!!

    No one should go to Rio!!!!!

    Let’s break out of these racist stereotypes.

    NO ONE SHOULD GO!!!!!!!

  43. she came last almost in canadian tryouts… steups fight for you…oh please..

  44. De TTGF and she mudda aka Georgette Heinz well fight fuh she. Wah more she want? Steups

  45. don’t care what nobody said they find thema too black……..stay strong Thema.

  46. he know that since last year and still sent out that report?
    fyah fuh that

  47. When Thema was cleared to compete after the photo fiasco the TTGF made a point to state that her Rio spot was conditional upon her being healthy and there were reports that she was nursing an ankle injury. This would have clued some that there was more to come. Coach was however clueless and provided the opening. He gave a report via email as though there was a word limit…Twitter perhaps?…Observers who got their info from TV media as opposed to Wired believe that TTGF genuinely cared about Thema when they pulled her. But the devil is in the details as they say.

  48. Sorry to say Dick I’m 2000 percent Thema

  49. Marisa is right. We are not rooting for her at all and it is unfortunate that her mother her coach and the members of the TTGF placed her in this difficult position. She therefore needs to direct her frustrations to those responsible and it’s not Thema or trini citizens.

  50. It doesn’t really matter that she is Canadian/Trini. If she was full Trini and got the spot by the same way, it is still wrong. Would you all still support someone who cheated to get a reward that is underserving?

  51. I feel really bad for this Miss Dick!

  52. My question is :-
    1. She did not make the Canadian team.
    2. She did not argue with them.
    3. She was very quiet about it.
    4. She thinks that people in Trinidad are fools, so she can make her own decision, and DEMAND THAT SHE REPRESENT T&T, and people must just shut up and accept her, because she was born in Canada and that makes her better than Thema…….
    5. Why did she not jump up and argue with the Canadian team when they told her “MARISA SIT DOWN, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THE OLYMPICS, BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY SLOPPY, SHITTY, AND JUST NOT READY”…….
    6. Marisa know this:-
    If you are not good enough to represent one country (Canada) for the olympics, HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT TO REPRESENT ANOTHER COUNTRY(Trinidad &Tobago) ??????? It’s the SAME OLYMPICS they both are speaking about which you are still trying your best to represent…..WHY R U SO DARN HARD HEADED ???????…… YOU ARE NOT READY FOR OLYMPICS or ANY WHERE NEAR OLYMPICS MATERIAL……that is why you were KICKED OFF THE CANADIAN TEAM…….NO GOOD…NO GOOD….TRASHY…SLOOPY…PUSHY…..GREEDY….BOLD FACE……and the list goes on

  53. Wow, some athletes lack the concept of integrity, team Dick could’ve taken the higher path ,not to involve themselves in any unfair scheme against a fellow teammate, even with the public outcry these scumbags still believe they doing the right thing .

  54. Why should we fight for a cheat??

  55. ..Not apathetic. Self-centred. Self-obssessed. Selfish. Entitled…

  56. When I read about the machinations of Dick’s mother I starting to feel sorry for the child. What kind of values this woman imparted to her? They actually seem to feel entitled and aggrieved. They are not clueless as I first thought but seem totally oblivious to the wrong that was done to Thema. It’s not that Dick’s team lacks the intellectual capacity to understand why the whole country is against them. It’s that they’re too apathetic to put themselves in Thema’s shoes.

  57. Nothing wrong with supporting your daughter but manipulating the system to get it #marissaout #Hanniferout

  58. The mother seems to think it impossible that Thema is better than her daughter, I could understand that, it’s natural I guess . But to use your influence with the VP and other on the board to deny a young woman who worked just as hard and gave up a lot more for this once in a lifetime opportunity is just devious and wicked. Thema is more or less old in gymnastics terms and may never have a shot at the Olympics again whereas Marisa may have another chance. . Thema been representing TnT from day one, born and bred, Marisa only the last 4yrs after failing to make the Canadian team, so it’s quite easy to see where people’s loyalties lie.

  59. Ok she born in Canada… Mother Trinidadian. Let’s pretend and take that out of the equation. The criteria; standard stipulated by the board was… who ever places higher at the trial (World’s )will represent us at the Olympics. Thema made the mark !! Marisa did not. That is the bottom line. Now they want to change the rules. .. the “horse” they wanted and was expecting to win came up short and Thema is being made the casualty in all of this. It is unethical, immoral, and plain evil. Thema or any athlete should expect that if they work hard and compete what ever they accomplish should be theirs to claim. On the day that counted, at the competition that mattered Marisa came up wanting while Thema Williams made the mark.
    That is it… that is the bottom line.
    If Thema has that taken away from her (and that is exactly what they are attempting to do) . Then no one should represent because they have not earned it.!!!!!!!
    Marisa has found herself under the care of some very unscrupulous adults. … I feel sorry for her!
    If they were both born and home bred would it be clearer as to exactly what is transpiring.
    That Trinidad and Tobago is at a loss as to what is right, moral and just and we have gotten so accustomed to doing things with the end justifying the means that we are no longer able to see clearly anymore. How many shades of gray.. is the number on this TTGF
    But if you look you will see it is as plain as black and white

  60. based on what is being revealed……………NO ONE SHOULD !!!!!!!!!!!

  61. If first past the post was AGREED UPON………….what is the problem now ?……………..Marissa needs to do a ” Larry Gomes ” return to the nets and await an opening………….not mischievously create one !

  62. Shaun Lynch Mel Lissa she still innocent ??

  63. They saying a sore ankle not good but a fractured rib ok>?

  64. They violated their own mandate and laws, they had no right to remover her with further info, even with the time constarints

  65. I hope Brian Lewis shows his strength as a highly reputable sport administrator and does the right thing in this situation. Ball’s in his court now.

  66. Is any of this email relevant to where we are now though?
    Even after all of this email back and forth, Thema was announced as the one to go to the qualifier.
    I think all that needs to be determined is whether the TTGF acted reasonably in removing Thema given the reality of the time constraints with respect to when they received Geddert’s report.

  67. WOW!! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! This still does not absolve Thema’s coach in my humble opinion of writing a jackass assessment of his athlete, especially after he knew they were looking to replace her with Dick!
    That said the Board acted without consideration of their own rules and should all just disappear into the night.
    They conspired with another athlete to replace the RIGHTFUL athlete with an alternate that does NOT deserve the place in Rio!
    At this point I am not sure that we should send any athlete to represent T&T in Gymnastics if that athlete is not Thema.
    And since the opportunity to earn that place is now gone for her, one can always argue that it would be better to have someone represent the nation, but that will be salt in the wound and I stand by Thema!
    No gymnast should go to Rio to represent T&T.

    • No gymnast for Rio. We have to forfeit that spot and allow Azerbaijan to take it.

    • At one point, I sympathized with Marisa from an athlete’s perspective. Knowing now that both she and her mother HANNIFER conspired with LUE SHEU, MARQUEZ and the “we did what we had to do” SECRETARY, and not forgetting her Canadian coach, the governing OLYMPIC body should surrender T&T place in the Olympics since Thema cannot replace the little conspirator Marisa….CANADIAN GYMNASTIC COACHING ASSOCIATION, ” TAKE NOTE” ( don’t be lured into other federations business)

  68. I’ve been following every report since the photographs incident and it’s just gone from bad to worse. What has happened to Thema is without a shadow of a doubt, unjust! And folks, lets be clear about the abilities of these two athletes, they are both good but if you truly are a follower of gymnastics, they are far far from the best in the world. Thema was the better of the two by all the performances against Melisa. Melisa ranks very low in the standings and any Olympic medal from her is very unlikely. So lets refocus on the unjust process that took place and right the wrong against Thema. No one goes this year for Gymnastics.

  69. Based on the communication between the TTGF and the athletes parents, contracts were signed to the effect that whichever athlete finishes above the other will be the one chosen to go to the test event..THEMA finished 17 places ahead of Marisa. The mother of Marisa refused to inform her daughter Marisa of the decision, claiming that her daughter worked hard etc…question…did Thema also worked hard. Here comes the DECEIT. Marisa’s mother emailed RICARDO LEU SHEU complaining..( sour grapes) about her daughter’s non selection etc….A note here to MARISA’S MOTHER…ALL athletes work hard to accomplish their life long dream, so while your daughter did what she ought to do, she failed in her efforts and this was quite clear to the scoundrels of the TTGF…This is clear as..BLACK AND WHITE.

  70. “Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.” What this reveals is that the seeds of this fiasco were sown way back when MD was initially allowed to compete under the TT flag. Citizenship of convenience? As often happens, its the adults who mess-up and the children who pay the price. As it now stands,even if MD is given the green light, the “victory” would be phyrric.

  71. And no one will fight for you under these conditions. You choose to trample over one of our own for self agrandisement. We do not care about you as a result. NO ONE SHOULD GO…SINCE THEMA WAS PULLED SO THAT YOU COULD QUALIFY. CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR CANADIAN ROCK.

  72. So certain people tears don’t matter. That mother somehow feels less for her daughter’s pain than you do? This debacle is filled with so many nuances, I feel it will end up a case study in Social Sciences or some damn thing oui

  73. Even Thema’s Coach Geddert is DISGUSTED by this whole shit!!! and the TTGF—#GOHOMEDICK!!!!

  74. They too disgusting…. Thema girl get yuh $$$

  75. Stupezzzzzz we doh even care if she go
    And if she wins that medal won’t mean anything to us

  76. Coming with crocodile tears, sad stories and going on all the morning programs wearing the T&T sweat shirt will not help. Try again.

  77. Who fighting for you? Well apparently the entire TTGF. Reading this piece is vexing. Thema or Nothing

  78. uhhhhhhh! your mother said it right is right so follow that! GO THEM A!

  79. I am supporting her! I make absolutely no apologies for saying that to ANYONE! AND, I’m quite certain that being the Sportswoman Thema is, if asked, she likewise will support Marisa. As I said before, ALL of our frustrations should be generated to the TTGF NOT Marisa. This is a learning curve for Trinidad which should never be allowed to repeat itself!

    • She KNEW of all the underhand moves on HER behalf,so she should have declined,to profit from that only proves she IS HER MOTHER’S DAUGHTER!

    • Have you ever cheated on your income tax returns? Lol! I guess not! Smiling!

    • Stanley clearly you haven’t been reading the emails sent by Hannifer to the board..Marisa knew of the underhand moves as stated by Glenn ……but then again you are on every article posting support for Marisa so you probably related ……

    • SO WHAT IF WE ARE? ARE YOU RELATED TO THEMA? What sin have I committed? That’s my RIGHT to support!And SO is YOURS not to support. The last time I checked, It’s MY constitutional right to do so! Goodbye!!

    • Stanley Ryan you are a clear example of what is wrong with T&T. White colour crime is no big thing only gun and gang related crime right?

    • When one deals with intelligence, one must deal with it intelligently. I will no longer dignify stupid responses with a response!

    • Intelligence never claims to be…it just is……. vanity and a self deluded ego born of insecurity however are usually immediately recognized….

    • Stanley,by your question,l SEE YOU. Birds of a ferther flock—. And the short answer is NO! I pay the LEGAL minimum l can,l don’t cheat!!

    • I trust that you are feeling proud of yourself? YOU just could NOT have a DECENT CONVERSATION WITHOUT BEING DISRESPECTFUL! I am NOT surprised! Take a bow Glen Burkett, A standing ovation and A round of applause. YOU DESERVE IT ALL! I know now that you are QUITE INTELLIGENT more so YOU having OPENED YOUR MOUTH!

    • Kimz Raeann Even if I was family, I wouldn’t support that underhand nonsense. “Hannifa gyul, alyuh kinda pushing it, y’know” would be more my response. Stanley’s support is due to Stanley’s own arrogance and shamelessness.

    • Apparently you are NOW looking for friends and support. BE CREATIVE, MOVE ON! That’s old news. There are much more important things that should engage your attention at this time. LIKE DISAPPEAR!

    • Topic was the underhand action of the people concerned! Look where it reach! Sorry you felt the need to reafirm your manhood,but we don’t care one way or the other! They are still nasty biased corrupt people!!

    • Glen, let us agree to disagree. I respect your rights to have and share your opinion and you are quite correct. They do appear to be biased and corrupt.I agree that the decisions taken leaves much to be desired beginning with Marisa’s coach. Nevertheless, I also have a right to an opinion whether it’s respected or not and I take great care not to condescend to the comments. Our focus should be to right the wrong and express our complete dissatisfaction that has brought us to this place, AND, not to be disrespectful to others for expressing a view dissimilar to theirs. I have carefully read the opinions and have come to the conclusion that opposites collide. As a result, I will not offer any further comment on this matter! I still wish the young lady Marisa Dick the very best. She will need much more though. Smile.All the best!

  80. I guess it must be easier for Thema’s mother to see her daughter crying!! Steups. #IDoNotSupportMarisa

  81. I feel so so sorry for these two young ladies. It takes so much to reach this quality and standard at an international level. Unfortunately Rio gave us one berth. I would have sought to have the other attend even if it was to observe if that is possible. This is the growing sport for us and we need to encourage those out there trying hard to fly our flag high. The TTGF needs to politley step aside as they have absolutley mismanaged this situation and brought distress and division to the girls and have embarassed the country internationally in this sporting discipline. Walk away…dont let us have to fire you.

  82. So much about life is about failing, picking yourself up and moving on. Over pampering your child is not the best parenting choice

  83. What kills me is all the talk she talks about what’s being best for the girls and how bad she feels for Thema! That is one pack of bs and I always suspected it. She ONLY cares about herself and her child. I am so impressed with how Thema has handled herself through all this with such grace. I personally don’t think I would have had it in me to behave so well.

  84. This Hannifer Dick woman, does she not understand her daughter didn’t qualify for the spot?

  85. It’s not about being a Trini or Canadian…. It’s about someone exposing their boobie in a hidden form ….consider not to be a good image…

  86. Just Hate all the drama to allow Marisa to rep instead of Thelma..clear case of manipulation

  87. Dick’s camp is playing the sympathy game in the media. They are really greasing us down to take Dick….

  88. She is a born Canadian so all yuh stop the crap if you ok with the constant “Canadian born Marisa representing Trinidad ” which I say means that we have no one of our own to represent so we went out and bought one…if we not willing to fight for one of our own then we don’t care for each other it is not a matter if she win or not it is a matter that she is bumping out one of us…one of ours

  89. I have always disliked our use of failed international athletes whose parents happen to be trini. Especially when I know that we’re capable of producing way better than what they have to offer. But favoritism, inaccessibility to proper facilities and lack of youth engagement hurting our potential. Maybe she would have been more accepted if the circumstances in which she came was less manipulative and vile. As well as her alleged post of where her heart truly is. When I heard we have Thema as potential representation I say I have something to look forward to in gymnastics this year alas I not watching it and I don’t care if she wins gold but that would be lovely for her and I wish her all the best.

  90. But Mrs. Dick…. Thema qualified for her Rio spot when she performed better than Marisa??? Wasn’t that the criteria for qualifying for Rio?
    Also, I find it atrocious this woman is talking about her child’s feelings being hurt when Thema’s dreams were shattered because of all the who knows who (Shue). Marisa didn’t qualify for Rio because she placed lower than Thema… Why does the mother think this is unfair?

  91. So wait …….where was TTGF when Dick was injured? Because the article stated “….even though we all knew how injured she was” yet was quick to pull Thema? #allyuhonshit

  92. Folks we need to post our comments on the trinidad and tobago olympics facebook pages …..they clearly need to see our stance on this entire situation ….. cmonnn!!#

  93. “Home is where the heart is”……Where did she say her heart was ??? Trinidad ???? You get the call up to make HISTORY for TNT but callin Canada’s name in that….???…..Her Words ??

  94. >>It is a hard thing to see your child cry when she knows how hard she has worked to accomplish all that she has and to have it be so unfair to her. Her words to me was “how come no one sees how much I have done?”<< I could choke on the hypocrisy.

  95. They only jump on T&T bandwagon because she did not qualify for Canada…so give me a break…Thema deserve that spot fair and square…

  96. Clear grounds for bias …..if Thema does not go then no one should be allowed to go ….this would clearly “NOT” represent the spirit in which the games are participated in. The backstabbing, illegal manipulation of rules to force an athlete who was fairly beaten into second place reflects badly on the country and both organisations involved.

    • This is what I’m saying – all these people who want to talk bout “what the spot means for gymnastics and sport in T&T” – Do they even understand the spirit and meaning of the games and how contrary this nonesense is to that. Are we so desperate and never see come see that we rather send someone whose presence is an insult to the olympics rather than withdraw for the sake of integrity? Nah man. I believe we are better than that.

    • We’re supposed to be better than that but you always see the true nature of people when you give them an ounce of power!!

  97. This is getting murkier everyday… Shaun Lynch that’s why some feel a T&T exclusion might be necessary

  98. If the understanding was that whomever placed higher was going to represent our country then clearly it was Thema why is there even all this controversy. Poor decision being made

  99. Hannifer is a major player is this entire situation ……wow ….. #marissaout !!!!!

  100. Steups Girl rock so with that eh

  101. People….allyuh stop dis rubbish about de girl being a Canadian. What was done is legal and allowed for more than a few sports….especially football. Ever heard the name Chris Birchall? TOTAL Englishman, and was accepted easy easy.

    I doh like what seems to have happened either…but kill de ‘she not ah Trinbagonian’ nonesense. Ah bet if she won an Olympic or World Championships medal reppin T&T (without all dis drama) all ah we woulda jump up, celebrate and demand ah holiday. We too damn hypocritical.

    • “Home is where the heart is”……Where did she say her heart was ??? Trinidad ????

    • Richard if your woman come n tell you she heart with another man you will still feel she with/for you ?? ?

    • With the manner in which this was done she can Dick off for all I care…

    • She only trini on the floor. Get your facts straight. She’s schizo. Split personality me say… LoL

    • LoL Kenrick! You hit the bloody nail upside it’s head… ?????????

    • Chris Birchall’s situation was different though……we didn’t have anybody to fill the spot that he did and he was asked to represent us (Please read his full story stating such) whereas we have a representative that honestly qualified and that right taken away from her to give to a Canadian that publicly stated that she’s a Canadian to heart……gooh with that nonsense!!

    • Allyuh have to understand the politricks of this. The rule was set up so that the ‘big nations’ could continue to feed off of us ‘small nations’ for talent per immigration (remember, when our athletes go to train, compete and LIVE in other countries, many do go the route of becoming citizens of their ‘new’ homeland). The TTGF simply did what being done all over the world. I’m not interested in if she’s from Mongolia. She was reppin T&T. Under the circumstances though….(read my words)…

      …I do not like how this has played out ATALL. The way I see it, Thema was unjustly ripped away from an opportunity that was rightfully earned.

      Chris Birchall’s situation of being asked to rep T&T still meant he had could apply….due to his mother being from Trinidad..for a T&T passport to be able to represent us. Hell he said it….He’s English/british…born and bred. However, I have never had any objections to him representing T&T nor do I have any per of Marisa representing T&T. I have incredible reservations with how all this went down.

      Maybe we should read the story of the Boateng brothers…Born in Germany, one played for Germany while another played for Ghana (country of his father’s birth). The third brother’s football career didn’t pan out.

    • But Chris was always above board. There was never any hidden agenda.

    • Forget the hidden agenda. My comment was about Marisa representing T&T even though she is a born Canadian. So far, she hasn’t really said anything less than I’ve expected to hear. Others however, have left a lot of questions hanging around.

    • Ok she born in Canada… Mother Trinidadian. Let’s pretend and take that out of the equation. The criteria; standard stipulated by the board was who ever places higher as the trial (World’s )will represent us at the Olympics. Thema made the mark !! Marisa did not. That is the bottom line. Now they want to change the rules. .. the “horse” they wanted and was expecting to win came up short and Thema is the casualty in all of this. It is unethical, immoral, and plain evil. Thema or any athlete should expect that if they work hard and compete what ever they acomplish should be theirs to claim. On the day that counted at the competetion that mattered Marisa came up wanting while Thema Williams made the mark.
      Thats it… thats the bottom line.
      If Thema has that taken away from her (and that is exactly what they are attempting to do) . Then no one should represent because they have not earned it.!!!!!!!
      Marisa has found herself under the care of some very unscrupulous adults. … I feel sorry for her!
      If they were both born and home bred would it be clearer as to exactly what is transpiring.
      That Trinidad and Tobago is at a loss as to what is right, moral and just and we have gotten so accostomed to doing things with the end justifying the means that we are no longer able to see clearly anymore. How many shades of gray.. is the number on this TTGF
      But if you look you will see it is as plain as black and white

    • Listen !!!! Everyone reading this know she should be treated no differently in any other country with a strong sense of fairness and patriotism…..keep your heart in Canada…Give me the one who Trini to d bone ????????

    • Thankfully….I said this previously…

      “…I do not like how this has played out ATALL. The way I see it, Thema was unjustly ripped away from an opportunity that was rightfully earned.”

    • Even if she Dick win ah million medals at the Olympics she still eh getting my support over Thema

    • I agree with Richard Goddard, Thema is being treated unfairly but some people are trying to stir up other emotions by continuing to make reference to the whole “she not a true trini” argument!

    • She’s not winning any medals the coach said it #Themaisthesuperiorgymnast plus Thema cut she tail at the qualifier ???

  102. Throwing tantrums?! Spoilt much?!

  103. We don’t fight for Canadians ?

  104. Steups …. #Marissaout #Hannifergetdaf***out

  105. What the flying f. You sign an agreement stating the criteria and then want the requirements to change…. I hope people see that more and more this was premeditated actions, all to please the feelings of some people.

  106. If there has been pressure, or a proven conspiracy for the last two years to try to get Marisa Dick into the Olympics, I believe the TTOC should by all means decline to participate in the gymnastics slot. A strong precedent must be set, in my opinion.

  107. After reading……what I got is that thema finished 52nd and Marisa finished 77th in panam games. Only one was to go and it was the person who finished better. Why is there even a debate…..!!?? But if the gynastics federation has done something wrong I guess the report sent to the ministry of sport will hold someone accountable for sending “wrong” person. That is all I can hope for as we may be too far gone to reverse any decisions made by gynastics federation.

  108. More info is coming out. Keep exposing the conspiracy!

  109. As more information is uncovered, It becomes clearer that the mysterious emailer of the Thema Williams’ so-called ‘nude’ photo came from the Dick’s camp. It shows how the Dick’s camp understands the judgmental & squeamish mindset of Trinbagonians.

  110. Whoaaa….the plot thickens…

  111. Seems the Dick’s are the decision making drivers. TTGF has no backbone!

  112. Allowing Dick to go forward will just prove once again we are not a meritocratic society that this place is where all systems can be manipulated to benefit a few. She did not work harder nor was she better than Thema rather she or her mother wooed the board . I am sorry for my children’s sake I need to see someone who earned it represent our country . Not someone who manipulated the system.

  113. my 7 year old has an expression, it goes like this – YOU GET WHAT YOU GET AND YOU DON’T GET UPSET. Hannifer and Marisa could learn a thing or two from her.

  114. See what I said before. DE mudder

  115. Wow. So basically the entire process should cater to Marisa’s feelings? Lol.

  116. So everyone is say Sick should Dick give her spot to Williams then she will get the nations respect? Is that what you are telling me?

    • She can’t give it to her but yes if she declined to compete due to the circumstances surrounding her qualification she would certainly gain the respect of more people who value integrity. Is integrity a hard concept for you to grasp?

  117. Accepting Dick would be condoning nepotism, unjust favoritism, and corruption, to say the least.

    As much as I’d like to see my flag represented at an Olympics gymnastics event, if the best we have is replaced by someone who shouldn’t shouldn’t shouldn’t even be considered, we should forgo the spot.

    #NoDick

  118. What did I just read.

    Wow.

  119. Her mom has an incredibly entitled and selfish attitude. In the states we describe it as white women’s tears. Maybe beige in this case but same behaviour

    • Definitely seems to be an astonishing sense of entitlement. The email seems to suggest that TTGF has a responsibility to wipe away her daughter’s tears and “fix” the “problems” caused by Thema defeating her.

    • This too was my gut reaction…it reeks of entitlement and in many ways proves what so many have asserted through this controversy! Team Dick seems both duplicitous and very complicit in robbing Thema, the older of the two athletes, of her shot at the Olympics. In fact it appears Hannifer was the driving force behind the bacchanal.

    • So everyone is say Sick should Dick give her spot to Williams then she will get respect? Is that what you are telling me?

    • Drexel Joseph She cannot give her spot to Williams. Williams did not compete and therefore cannot go to Rio. We are saying the way Dick secured the spot was unjust and the TTGF showed clear bias in this matter. Dick, as the athlete they favoured, should not get to reap the rewards of their duplicitous behaviour.

    • The real culprit is TTGF yet people still hate Dick, cuz she was given the spot, so let’s say Dick gets injured God forbid or worse, quits then what?

    • Did you read this article? Team Dick is far from innocent in this. The preferred result for a lot of us is to have Trinidad & Tobago stand down from the competition, i.e. not be represented at all. I’d prefer that to being represented by someone who got her shot to compete through corruption, nepotism and bad deeds esp those deeds that purposely and maliciously snatched the earned (via the critera) chance to compete from a deserving athlete.

    • Yes I read the article and the Minister of Sports also looking into it but the fact is someone’s dream is dashed and the Federation over is no help. I’m not gonna defend team Dick but I want to see T&T puts its best athletes in Rio

    • I hear you, but we don’t know Dick is our best gymnast and we won’t know b/c Thema was robbed of her chance to qualify. What we know is that she’s all we have due to a spirit of malintent and that is hard for anybody to swallow much less rally around.

    • Have you ever seen Dick perform in a gymnastics or YouTube it?

    • Yes, I have and she’s good…is she the best? Idk. If she were really great, I know she would have never stepped foot here to rep us b/c she had options…she would be on the Canadian team. John Geddert seems to think Thema is the best we have to offer. Even better than Dick. :-/

    • So let give her the support and judge her on her performance in Rio

    • Drexel Joseph You are free to throw your support behind her if you wish, but I don’t think we as a nation benefit by supporting corruption in this way. We shouldn’t have to sell out our morals and ethics to see progress in gymnastics for our nation. We will just not agree there.

    • Fair enough but I don’t let say Williams do get her just due, then what

    • It will be extremely sad if trinbago isn’t represented but both athletes have poured their heart and soul and dedicated their life to get to this point for corruption and crocodile tears to differentiate who puts TnT on the gymnastic map. I’d prefer no representation.

    • The woman straight up brass faced as my grandma used to say! I am supporting the Jamaican athlete, #Themaornobody

    • This whole situation is a metaphor for corruption in our country. Some people will always think the end justifies the means. Say no to corruption in Sport, say no to corruption in the country

  120. wellllll if the country does not believe that she represents them then why would they fight for her? If she doesn’t understand why the decisions were made then to send Thema and why the country is upset and consequently not supporting the decisions that were made recently then she needs to grow up.

  121. How bout ammmmmm idk the country she represents

  122. uuhhhhh who she wants to fight for her though???

  123. So now it seems that everything has change to make Marisa feel better? So Thema didn’t work hard as well to earn her spot? Wow this is all so self serving

  124. I get the feeling this is more than just gymnastics