Tim Kee: Why I won’t talk to Sancho; TTFA president defends stance

The following is a press release from Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president and PNM treasurer, Raymond Tim Kee, which seeks to explain his recent refusal to meet Sport Minister Brent Sancho:

Photo: TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee, who is a member of the FIFA Futsal Committee, tries out the furniture at the global football body's Zurich headquarters.
Photo: TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee, who is a member of the FIFA Futsal Committee, tries out the furniture at the global football body’s Zurich headquarters.

While a casual observer will glance at the current conflict between myself and Minister of Sport, Brent Sancho and chalk it up as being a byproduct of a bitter political season, the real reasons behind the clash are far different from what has been offered by those who claim to know.

Therefore and for the sake of our football, it is important that supporters of the national football teams and our own national program players and coaches know the reasons behind the current conflict.

The governing body of football in Trinidad and Tobago is expected to show leadership and vision in establishing a plan to advance the prospects of our national team programs, especially as our senior men’s team has emerged from an encouraging Gold Cup performance and is about to embark upon the Road To Russia 2018 World Cup campaign.


Now more than ever, the TTFA has to be the entity to encourage everyone to rally around to support our national team players and coaches. The Ministry of Sport is an important partner in our overall effort to have all our national teams qualify for a FIFA tournament by 2018.

However, a partnership requires mutual respect.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago football captain Kenwyne Jones (background) hugs teammate and goalkeeper Marvin Phillip after their penalty shootout loss to Panama in the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup quarterfinal. (Copyright Jewel Samad/AFP 2015)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago football captain Kenwyne Jones (background) hugs teammate and goalkeeper Marvin Phillip after their penalty shootout loss to Panama in the 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup quarterfinal.
(Copyright Jewel Samad/AFP 2015)

Upon Mr Sancho’s appointment, a multitude of inquiries from people aware of the history between Mr Sancho and the TTFA/TTFF began to pour in; all asking the same question: how did we feel the new minister would treat the TTFA?

I can say unequivocally, that the TTFA met Mr Sancho’s appointment with an open mind. Within the first weeks of his appointment, meetings were held with TTFA representatives and the ministry. Presentations were made describing the past, present, and future plans of the TTFA.

Pledges of information exchanges and support were made and a spirit of cooperation was established.

However, the collaborative spirit unraveled with a number of unfortunate interviews of the minister that seemed to belie the cooperative tone established in our meetings. It became clear the old conflicts between Mr Sancho and the TTFA would not be a thing of the past and instead form the basis of his approach toward the TTFA and its national team programs.

Brent Sancho is a current litigant and still has a court matter against the TTFA. Based upon his public comments, he still has not missed a step in his aggression toward the TTFA on the old matter surrounding the 2006 “Soca Warriors” bonus action.

Photo: Former 2006 World Cup player Kelvin Jack (centre) embraces TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee in May 2013. Looking on are teammates (from right) David Atiba Charles, Cyd Gray and Brent Sancho. (Courtesy Wired868)
Photo: Former 2006 World Cup player Kelvin Jack (centre) embraces TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee in May 2013.
Looking on are teammates (from right) David Atiba Charles, Cyd Gray and Brent Sancho.
(Courtesy Wired868)

As a result of the continuing disrespectful, personal attacks, and dishonest public comments Mr Sancho has made about the TTFA and myself, it is prudent that the TTFA seek other avenues to try to advance our partnership with the Ministry of Sport in the best interests of Trinidad and Tobago football.


My direct communication with Mr Sancho is not a prerequisite for the ministry and TTFA to continue their collaboration.

It is this distinction, not politics, which is at the crux of the conflict with Mr Sancho.

It is also instructive to know that as recently as a year ago, Mr Sancho threatened to “close down football” if the remaining payments to the 2006 Soca Warriors did not commence. This, in spite of the fact that months after coming in to office, I made the decision to pay the 2006 players $10 million dollars after their case languished in the court for over 7 years with no significant benefit gained.

The decision to address the players’ issue was against a backdrop where the choice to declare the then TTFF bankrupt was a real consideration but one that I did not support because it would not be fair to people who gave their services and limited resources to assist football. They would have lost every cent with no recourse!

Photo: The Trinidad and Tobago national football team poses before kick off against England at the 2006 World Cup. (Courtesy 90soccer.com)
Photo: The Trinidad and Tobago national football team poses before kick off against England at the 2006 World Cup.
(Courtesy 90soccer.com)

Unfortunately, Mr Sancho and his supporters did not seem to share the view that the TTFA exhibited good faith in our efforts to settle with the players. And (they) began a series of public campaigns to undermine the TTFA and essentially damage corporate sponsorship prospects that we began to establish in an attempt to reform a heavily damaged organisation that had lost the public trust and confidence during the term of the previous administrations.

It is also instructive to know I did not have problems with previous ministers. Whatever differences arose, were worked out and, actually, compliments were made publicly from members of the government expressing how I approached my dealings with the government and ministry in an apolitical manner.

The reason for my stance on Mr Sancho being stated, I would like to share the recent history to explain how and why I arrived at my current position with regard to Mr Sancho.

ORIGIN OF CURRENT PUBLIC CONFLICT

In June, I met with Mr Sancho at Parliament to discuss the status of the cabinet note that was passed in November in order to fully support the Gold Cup preparation efforts as promised by the Prime Minister.

Photo: TTFA president and Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee (centre) gestures to an Ecuador player while Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar (right) has a word to her grandson before kick off of the FIFA Women's World Cup Play Off second leg on 2 December 2014. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: TTFA president and Port of Spain Mayor Raymond Tim Kee (centre) gestures to an Ecuador player while Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar (right) has a word to her grandson before kick off of the FIFA Women’s World Cup Play Off second leg on 2 December 2014.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Mr Sancho and his staff tried to claim the cabinet note did not clearly define which team would benefit from the funds allotted; this was a disingenuous interpretation since the only team that plays in the Gold Cup is the Men’s Senior Team and was the only team the Prime Minister addressed when the cabinet note was referred to at a press conference in November after the CFU Championship.

Also at this meeting, Mr Sancho said the ministry would pay our national players only 50% of their fees. I strongly objected and said the note accounted for full payment for the players’ fees and if the minister pursued such a course, the media would be told about the change and he would be regarded as the worst sports minister in history.

As a former player who fought for payments and fees for himself; it was rather confusing and disappointing to witness the minister try to shortchange players who were once his teammates.

Mr Sancho objected to what he viewed as a threat and said the TTFA should pay the other 50% from gate receipts. I further explained that such a proposal would actually place the players in a worse position as the TTFA usually lose money on matches played at home.

Photo: A Soca Warrior fan enjoys the action between Trinidad and Tobago and Panama at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: A Soca Warrior fan enjoys the action between Trinidad and Tobago and Panama at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

He got the cabinet note and tried to ignore the provisions therein. Mr Sancho would later describe my approach at the Parliament meeting as aggressive and referred to me as a “Raging Bull.”

Aside from the political allusion, anyone who knows me will understand that I do not raise my voice and/or act in a manner that is associated with incivility or disrespect.

II. CONTACT WITH THE MINISTRY

Mr Sancho has stated on several occasions that we are “biting the hands that feed us.” Aside from the clearly offensive overtones, this is not a truthful statement. We feel the TTFA has a right to offer rebuttal to the spread of misinformation by the minister.

Our July 11 press release was in response to several months of public statements from the ministry that were factually incorrect regarding information submitted to the ministry and funds received by the TTFA.

Mr Sancho also continued to perpetuate another untruth by claiming that we have cut off communication with the ministry since our press release.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee (right) and general secretary Sheldon Phillips. (Courtesy Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president Raymond Tim Kee (right) and general secretary Sheldon Phillips.
(Courtesy Wired868)

In reality, the TTFA has been in touch with the ministry almost on a daily basis since the aforementioned press release, largely with the Permanent Secretary (PS) and other ministry officials.

During the period since the release was sent on July 11, there were at least 10 messages between the TTFA and the ministry. Such communication included the coordination of efforts to provide account information of national team players to the ministry in order to distribute Gold Cup match fees.

Surely, this could not have been accomplished had the TTFA cut off our communication to the ministry as alleged by the minister.

In short, the TTFA is working directly with the PS in advancing the needs and the interest of football. In our dealings with the Permanent Secretary, the business with the ministry continues and we can still move matters forward pertaining to our national teams.

III. TTFA TRANSPARENCY

Early in Mr Sancho’s tenure, he threatened to withhold funding unless accounts were submitted. Having received such a threat, the TTFA invited our auditor, KPMG, to attend a meeting with the Minister that took place on May 11.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Sport Minister and Senator Brent Sancho. Sancho is a former World Cup 2006 player and CEO of local Pro League club, Central FC. (Courtesy SPORTT)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Sport Minister and Senator Brent Sancho.
Sancho is a former World Cup 2006 player and CEO of local Pro League club, Central FC.
(Courtesy SPORTT)

It was explained by KPMG the reasons for the non-submission of audited accounts from the TTFF/TTFA since 2008. Yet, Mr. Sancho continues to raise issues about “transparency and accountability” as though the TTFA has not submitted accounts.

The fact is with the continued assistance of KPMG, TTFA accounts were submitted and received by the ministry for 2008 and 2009 at the very same May 11 meeting. The accounts from 2010 and 2011 were submitted and delivered to the Minister and the former PS on May 22.

Once audited statements are completed through 2014, TTFA will publish the accounts as part of our reform efforts to establish accountability and transparency.

In an increasingly desperate attempt to manufacture an issue of contention, Mr Sancho has claimed funds the TTFA received from CONCACAF were not disclosed and claimed we were not being “forthright.”

This despite the fact that we explained in our recent press release and via direct communication with the ministry:

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) Raymond Tim Kee (right) enjoys some conversation at the 2014 FIFA Congress in Sao Paulo, Brazil. (Copyright TTFA Media)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) Raymond Tim Kee (right) enjoys some conversation at the 2014 FIFA Congress in Sao Paulo, Brazil.
(Copyright TTFA Media)

How much we have already received from CONCACAF;

How much we are entitled to receive from CONCACAF;

The purpose for which the already received funds from CONCACAF were used;

Permission from CONCACAF to use said funds for the stated purpose.

In closing, the TTFA should not be expected to surrender dignity and endure disrespect and defamation because of our dependence on the ministry for support.

The fact that Mr Sancho has used rhetoric to describe the TTFA and other members of the public as being; “ungrateful”, provides a glimpse of someone who does not understand the position and purpose of being a Minister of Sport; which is to provide service on behalf of our taxpayers and facilitate our athletes.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago captain Kenwyne Jones (left) congratulates scorer Sheldon Bateau (right) after his 2015 Gold Cup goal against Cuba. Looking on is Andre Boucaud. (Courtesy CONCACAF)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago captain Kenwyne Jones (left) congratulates scorer Sheldon Bateau (right) after his 2015 Gold Cup goal against Cuba.
Looking on is Andre Boucaud.
(Courtesy CONCACAF)

According to reports from players and coaches, Mr Sancho calls them directly to further spread misinformation about the TTFA and attempt to undermine the administration of the TTFA. Such behaviour threatens to destabilise teams and unfairly place our players and coaches into the conflict when they should be only expected to focus on their preparation and matches.

My determination to lead the TTFA into a new era of good governance, accountability, and accomplishment will continue. The forward movement from where the organisation was in 2012 shows that we are making significant progress and the best is yet to come.

After decades of futile efforts, a new constitution was recently passed and ratified by our members and for the first time in our history all stakeholders in the game, including clubs, will have a say in the governance of football.

Our teams have shown they are a force to be reckoned with once again, and in spite of Mr Sancho’s dismissive comments, the $6 million (USD) debt I met has been reduced to approximately $2 million (USD) through a carefully constructed approach that included our initial $1.7 million (USD) contribution to the 2006 players settlement and lobbying of the government which eventually led to the payment of the remaining $1.3 million (USD) owed to the 2006 players and $1 million (USD) in arrears owed to senior team coaches and players since 2011.

Photo: Former TTFA technical director Anton Corneal is among dozens of coaches still owed money by the local football.
Photo: Former TTFA technical director Anton Corneal is among dozens of coaches still owed money by the local football.

It is my strong belief that the remaining TTFA debt will be eliminated in the not too distant future.

It is now up to Mr Sancho and his allies to decide whether or not they want to be a constructive element in our efforts to make Trinidad and Tobago an internationally significant football nation.

Or, conversely continue on the path that is likely to deny young footballers the same opportunities that were offered and afforded to Mr Sancho when he was a young footballer in need. I remain hopeful that the better angels of his nature will guide his future decisions.

Creating further debate is certainly not the intent of this writing. Instead, the purpose for my words is to share information with the public so they can be both better informed and positioned to rally around our footballers who fight to represent Trinidad and Tobago in international competition.

Enlisting support for our national footballers is how I will be focusing my time, energy, and efforts, especially as we enter our Road To Russia Campaign.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago midfielder Keron Cummings (centre) celebrates his goal against Mexico with teammates (from right) Cordell Cato, Joevin Jones, Mekeil Williams and Aubrey David in the 2015 Gold Cup. (Courtesy MexSport/CONCACAF)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago midfielder Keron Cummings (centre) celebrates his goal against Mexico with teammates (from right) Cordell Cato, Joevin Jones, Mekeil Williams and Aubrey David in the 2015 Gold Cup.
(Courtesy MexSport/CONCACAF)

Now is the time to show our footballers and coaches the same level of commitment and teamwork they recently displayed on the field at the Gold Cup. Now is the time we must give our undivided and unequivocal support.

Our footballers have earned that respect.

 

Editor’s Note: Sport Minister Brent Sancho has accused TTFA president Raymond Tim Kee of using footballers as pawns and sacrificing their wellbeing to wage a political war. Click HERE to read more.

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83 comments

  1. Rhoda Bharath, Gilbert O’Connor Jr… What is the word on the ground about Tim Kee?

  2. This is HISTORY in the making. I hope you are recoding every word. This is going to be Interesting.

  3. Did I just get blacklisted by the PNM already? Lol.
    Thanks Debbie Espinal. I can only hope so.
    I give the People’s Partnership a lot of stick for their farcical governance.
    But if the likes of Raymond Tim Kee is what the PNM has in store for us, then I will lose a lot of friends very soon I assure you.
    We criticize when the COP refuses to denounce PP corruption and mock Prakash.
    What is the difference here? Simple question Richard Zen O’Brien: are PNM-ites happy with the job that Raymond Tim Kee is doing as mayor and treasurer?

  4. Hopefully not the same quality Kamla appointed to her state boards cause look where that got us.

  5. The PNM’s thoughts on whether Tim Kee is a high performer or not are very relevant as they give an indication of what quality of person we can expect to be appointed to state boards etc. if the PNM were to win the election…

  6. I’m no lover of Tim Kee as anyone can tell you and i personally think he’s a shithong but i don’t understand what PNM’s thoughts on if he’s a performer or not have to do with his ongoing feud with the Min of Sport. Right now PNM studying to win an election and not the childish games being played out between Sancho and Tim Kee. Rest assured Lasana no need to worry about a “toy” PNM Sports Minister as PNM not about playing games. I refer to Dr Rowley’s response regarding PNM’s position on Sports which was very lengthy and informative when questions were posed to him regarding same at the Monday night meeting in Westmoorings. Tim Kee better start studying that election in November and not what cushiony position he might get if PNM is elected to lead the Country in September.

  7. Hahahaha! Richard Zen O’Brien, definitely a new PNM… where ppl run from questions, can’t handle the truth and only talk to like-minded weaklings. Enjoy your music. Peace to you too, Sir!

  8. Good..you’ve answered my question. You could find someone else to debate that other point. I’m off to take in some good music. Peace!

  9. Richard Zen O’Brien, LOL… Oh my God… let me understand what is happening here…I raise the issue of why the PNM has Tim Kee in more jobs than his competency level can handle… you then bring up this bet and you want me to take this bet before you address the issue that I raised first? LOL. You not feeling weak?

    Hear nah…if I were the PP I would slaughter the PNM and Rowley as much as possible over the issue that they have as their party’s treasurer a man whose leadership of the TTFA has led to questions being raised about financial dealings. So to me, it’s obvious that Sancho would raise the issue on the campaign trail, especially as football is without a doubt the largest true national team sport in this country, in light of the changes in regional cricket.

    But if you’re looking for an easy opportunity to say “Chabeth, I told you so…’, I’ll give you one. So sure, I’ll take your bet. I know I’m not going to win…but what’s the prize anyway? I like to know what I’m playing for.

    So now that I’ve taken your bet, you still going to cop out of answering whether or not you and the PNM consider Tim Kee to be a high performer?Ric

  10. The only man to talk to Sancho is Don Quixote.

  11. Hahahahahaha! Are you serious? The apples and oranges terminology is for when people are comparing two unrelated things. One… Sancho and Tim Kee not unrelated. Two… I not comparing anybody to anybody else. But just so we clear…it’s you who brought up people and their agenda. You really didn’t think anybody was going to ask about Tim Kee’s?

    In any case, I’m raising a different issue. Tell me you can discuss more than one thing at a time! Please! LOL… I still waiting to hear if the PNM considers Tim Kee a high performer or not…

  12. Dude, we’ve moved into apples and oranges. I said before the TTFA NEEDS to be held accountable. I said that. What I added was, Brent Sancho is not a credible agent for change because HEwas brought in solely as a political hack. Can anyone tell me what are the other credentials that made Brent Sancho a credible candidate for this position? Was he even a UNC member? Was is from managing japs? Playing football? Please, enlighten me.

  13. The politics are playing now…Tim Kee doh see any reason to be civilised because between now and Sept he wont need any more funding…steups. I hope this man is taught a lesson

  14. Richard Zen O’Brien, let me be clear what my questions are… cause I know after we bonded for life earlier, you’re not just ignoring me. So I’m choosing to believe you just not understanding for whatever reason…
    1. Is Tim Kee a politician? And if so, is he a politician without an agenda? And if not, how can somebody who is the treasurer of a party and the mayor of the country’s capital city not be considered a politician.
    2. Does the PNM really consider Tim Kee to be a high performing individual?

  15. Yes he forgot to mention that all the letters he wrote Kams was ignored when she and Jack was pardners. He also forget to mention that Jack tried to change the name from TTFA to the TTFF.

  16. Let me be clear..the bet is this….Brent Sancho is going to be talking about Jack Warner and the Mayor of POS on the platform. Who wants it?

  17. I want you to stop pretending I eh tag in two comments! LOL

  18. I am willing to take a bet with anyone who thinks Sancho is not going to be talking about the Mayor of POS and Jack Warner on the campaign.

  19. Brent Sancho spoke one on a Monday night forum, just after he was announced as a candidate and he made sure he mentioned how he stood up and fought against Jack Warner. What he did not mention was at the time he fighting Jack, the PP was backing Jack!
    Also, are you saying that the Mayor of POS in his dual role as head of the head of the TTFA is not a political target??? In this group there are those who try to link Tim Kee’s role as TTFA prez with his position as Treasurer of PNM and we think the UNC wouldn’t try to exploit that? Nah, i dont think anybody would doubt that.
    Look how petty this has become. UNC activists took pictures of trash from the City”s Emancipation Celebrations the night before and are trying to push that as how the PNM would run govt. If they are trying with garbage, you don’t think the TTFA president/ Mayor of POS/ PNM Treasurer is ‘fair game’ too?

  20. Just to be factual here, you know a bailiff went to TTFA headquarters because it’s doing wrong and not the other way around eh.
    Sancho denied taking uniforms. I don’t know if that’s true or not. But our football uniforms are sponsored so no team has had to fire about that.

  21. Chabeth move to the head of the class.

  22. Aww shucks, Lasana Liburd, I was waiting for Richard Zen O’Brien to come back so I could ask him why they have Tim Kee in so many jobs cause he doesn’t seem to be excelling at any. And I make no apologies for saying that. 😉

  23. I don’t have my ear to the ground in politics. But I do in football. And there is trepidation about Tim Kee and Phillips having a toy PNM sport minister at their fingertips.
    I can’t say if that is a credible concern or not.
    But do tell Richard Zen O’Brien: do PNM insiders really consider Tim Kee to be an efficient and effective treasurer and mayor?
    Or is it just a case of circling the wagon around one of their own?

  24. Who seized all the football kits for the youth team and said’ let them play bareback’ that was soooo ruthless and vindictive Has he returned them ?so how he get soo compassionate now ? Don’t believe him .

  25. Richard Zen O’Brien are you suggesting that other politicians don’t have political agendas? Or that Tim Kee himself isn’t a politician? Cause I’m not naive enough to believe that…

  26. you know when Jack was in charge this happened as a matter of course but no one had a problem

  27. Richard Zen O’Brien, how much time has Sancho gotten at those UNC forums to discuss Jack Warner or Raymond Tim Kee or anything else?
    If that is why the UNC brought him then they must feel very confident about those two men indeed.
    I have no idea why they selected Sancho as Sports Minister. But I see no evidence that it was as an orator or even an attack dog.
    And to think the PP brought in Senator for the purpose of attacking Tim Kee seems like only something Tim Kee could dream up.
    Who is Tim Kee a threat to exactly?

  28. Lasana need I quote Rex. …..AGAIN? Maybe perhaps more relevantly since it’s emancipation day lemme sum it up using a classic Ashanti proverb:
    “Two men in a burning house must not stop to argue.”

  29. Steups at least we will be rid of 1 of these jokers on Sep 7 can the clubs deliver us from the next joker in November please.

  30. And yet the TTFA bungles administrative arrangements time after time and the recent loss from the Argentina friendly has not been accounted for at all. Still no sensible explanation for not seeking the recovery of the funds allegedly misappropriated by the former management. Does he really expect any serious minded individual to take him seriously?

    • What yuh mean it “can’t be accounted for”? Follow the narrative and the money was last in the hands of David Atiba Charles. He’s the one spinning the fanciful tale of tossing piles of cash into the back of a black Mercedes Benz… but the TTFA must account for these funds? His allegations aside, why isn’t there more scrutiny on him? Anyways, the police have the file on the matter, so more will soon come to light.

  31. They can both only go back and forth as long as stakeholders sit back and allow the nonsense to continue..

  32. Here’s the ‘productive’ part, Chabeth. Brent Sancho was appointed Minister of Sport for one reason and one reason only, to be the attack dog for Jack Warner and the Mayor of POS. There was absolutely no other basis for making that appointment. Anyone willing to dispute that is very naive. I make no apologies for saying that. When Jack was in govt, the UNC didn’t give a damn about World Cup payments or TTFA accountability. So whatever the actual situation is, Sancho is not a credible agent, which is unfortunate because we DO need accountability in our football. However, the current Minister of Sport cannot ever be considered an honest broker. He has a political agenda.

  33. I believe Raymond Tim Kee. Sancho has done same thing to me He lied on i95.5fm telling that I Mayor of Point Fortin was aggressive towards him when the reverse was the case. He lied when he stated that i was adamant about building a 9000 seater pavilion when all along our plans and detailed drawings and estimates show a2500 seater pavilion. He came to Point Fortin to play hero politics. There is more i can say but at a more appropriate time

  34. How every woman feels in an argument with their husband/boyfriend… Can we please get to the productive part of this dialogue?? Hahahaha!

  35. Yep. And coaches and players are just shaking their heads, crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.

  36. They could drag a situation out….

  37. i dont listen to the radio, but where i am, and i think it is still going on now. terry fenwick being interviewed by andre baptiste, and i wondered if you were listening. if i was hearing a new or an old interview. it is interesting to listen to that man, and i was not doing so intently, so just caught some lines and snatches. in the context of what i heard, it would be interesting to hear your view on the man, and the man in trinidad…

  38. There is an old African proverb: when two elephants fight, the grass suffers.

  39. Oh gosh Sankko, they teaching yuh to lie boy and yuh getting greedy just like them.

  40. I believe every word that’s written here.

  41. This dispute didn’t just start with Sanko’s appointment (reward?) as MoS…

    http://wired868.com/2014/01/27/lies-and-untruths-from-the-ttfa-sancho-strikes-back/

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