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It is crude, simple and catchy and it references a part of the female anatomy that has caused more men to be laid off in recent times than low gas prices.
Mr Live Wire is talking, of course, about Nermal “Massive” Gosein’s Carnival 2018 song “Rowlee Mother Count,” a song as empty and as meaningless as the criticism it has provoked.
If PNM Women’s League chair Camille Robinson-Regis and National Chutney Foundation president Dr Vijay Ramlal really believe Massive’s song is an insult to mothers across the country, then they must also think Lord Blakie was promoting animal cruelty with “Hold de Pussy” and the late Mighty Duke brought the weather forecasting business into disrepute with “Thunder.”
If Arrive Alive was around in the 1980s, would they have condemned Drupatee’s “Lick Down Mih Nani?” Probably not.
It is getting to the point where, before attempting to start a sensible conversation, one must first ask all politicians to leave the room please.
It is not that Camille—and others—do not have a legitimate reason to be turned off by Massive’s song. It is just that when dishonesty has been your first language for long enough, your impulse to patronise supporters sidelines your ability to think.
Just to be clear, “mudda” talk has about as much to do with mothers as hot dogs have to do with canines. Which is why no school boy ever went home and told mammy: “Well, I had a great day but you should hear what Jason was saying about you… Do you know him?”
So if it isn’t demeaning to women, then what is wrong with “Rowlee Mother Count?”
Well, nothing…and everything!
Now Mr Live Wire has not written a calypso since Standard Five but I will hazard a guess that Massive’s song started with the chorus, which itself is hardly a work of art. Sadly, it only got worse from there.
Had Rowley’s mother, for instance, counted the number of non-functioning national stadia in the country, even as the government looks to begin construction of a new one in Diego Martin, well, Massive might have been on to something.
If Rowley’s mother was counting the number of people murdered—a statistic as troublesome under this government as it was under the People’s Partnership—Massive’s offering might be worth a listen.
If Rowley’s mother was counting the number of times the PNM blamed its predecessors without proving its case where it counts or at least closing the loopholes that made misbehaviour possible in the first place, hoss, Massive might be headed for the Big Yard.
Instead, Massive starts and ends with an obscene, frustrated yelp that he impotently dresses up with a quizzical tale of Rowley’s mother falling victim to praedial larceny. And then he has the gall to demand the protection of artistic license.
If “Rowlee Mother Count” is art, then Anthony Garcia is a lumberjack.
The image of a woman in ‘blackface’ playing Rowley’s mother in Massive’s video further highlights the utter emptiness—moral and otherwise—of this offering. When even Sat Maharaj can’t defend you, there really isn’t much more to be said, is there?
Remarkably, amid the shrill and counter-shrieking, it was the Maha Sabha General Secretary who made the most sensible statement.
(Copyright Power 102)
“I object to any song being offensive and I equally object to any speech that is offensive,” Maharaj told the Trinidad Express. “[…] If we intend to start pulling songs, then we have to start pulling some of the songs that went before, all the songs.
“I have no problems with calypsonians or chutney singers making political pronouncements in their songs, but when it crosses the line of good behaviour, of obscenity, then I raise objection and I also raise objection to people who conveniently are offended.”
Calypso and soca music are not inherently racist or sexist. But let’s be honest, for far too long, a racist and sexist fringe has found safe, comfortable lodgings there—like the grown man who won’t leave his parents home and is writing “don’t drink me” notes on his juice boxes right now as if he is in Alice in Wonderland!
It was just six years ago, after all, that Weston “Cro Cro” Rawlins appeared in the Calypso Monarch finals singing about “Lick-bottom Africans.” Racist ideology is often shared in far subtler terms, though.
Consider Gypsy’s “Little Black Boy” song, which won him the Calypso Monarch crown in 1997.
“There was ah little black boy, ah black boy was he,
The boy when to school and come out duncy
Never learn how to read, never learn about math,
Never learn how to write, he never study bout that.
All he study was he sneakers, he sneakers and clothes
He learn how to dress and he learn how to pose
Now he can’t get no work, can’t get no job.
He decide to steal and he decide to rob.
But little black boy couldn’t last long at all;
The police put ah bullet though he duncy head skull…”
Had Massive sung “Little Black Boy,” would he have been feted, cheered and begged for encores? Did Gypsy get away with it because, although he is a dougla, he had just enough Afro features to make his composition seem self-deprecatory rather than like racial profiling?
Can an artistic work be deemed either racist or acceptable based upon the race of the artist? And would that be progress or the opposite of it?
There is much that we have to talk about in Trinidad and Tobago as regards race, sex, class and even State-sponsored censorship—Gosein complained that he was warned of a possible financial backlash for his song by entities reliant on taxpayers’ dollars.
But it’s hard to get started without political fanatics jumping in to fog up the conversation.
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Sick
Gypsy is ah dougla?
Agreed the song is a failed artistic skills and empty…not even melodic….steups
Nothing unusual here.
Which aspect?
PNM women slam Massive.
UNC women slam Cro Cro, Aloes etc.
Added to that, same mediocre attempt at double entendres.
If there’s no ” controversy ” at carnival time, then make one.
Oftentimes , its just ritual for ritual sake.
Michael Samuel thanks for saying that. So it all hangs in the balance and we just doing as usual “taking we side”. But as the hypocrisy is pointed out and slaps us in the face we slant the conversation to for example ‘this is Not Kaiso’,
Strange that the people condemning this song had nothing to say when Cro Cro and Sugar Aloes were relentlessly attacking one section of our population
It is true that Cro Cro and Aloes sang some divisive and even racist tunes as well. But we have no idea who specifically did or didn’t object though. So I always try to avoid going that road when I can’t prove the accusation.
In 1996 Cro Cro sang ‘Blackman allyuh look for dat’. For that racist composition he was rewarded with first place on Sunday night. Hardly evidence that anyone condemned his song.
?? Well I certainly can’t argue with that. Lol. Not the judges anyway.
Just goes to show how Trinis are a bunch of racial assholes.
He was placed ahead of Brother Marvin who had two very patriotic songs. See who is pushing the racial agenda…
And Brother Marvin’s song was the one that was considered controversial because it diminished the difference in suffering between the two races for the sake of making a point about unity.
True
Not sure I agree with that but I get your point
Rubbish
I think Rowley should be concentrating on things far more important than calypso, after all, his country is in an economic CRISIS, and we haven’t had a commissioner that wasn’t from Hollywood since way back when!
Although we’d admit that the problems in the police service go way beyond the head. But that is a start. At least it would send a message to the troops that the State trusts the man in their Driver’s seat.
Yes! I think we need to get FULLY in charge of the people that supposed to protect US
Yes, definitely.
That sewer “song” says everything we need to know about the singer and his supporters. That is why this country is reeling under the weight of its wicked citizens.
I really think we have to stop seeing everything as “us” and “them” with one side being inherently better than the other.
We have common problems here. They are the same no matter your race or party.
Just saw another theory that the PNM is beating the Massive issue (I almost said the mudda count issue oui!) so as to distract from the issue of their ministers in porn.
But nothing I’ve seen of PNM ministers in recent weeks comes remotely close to porn.
It is just another example of people whispering silly things into our ears to whip us in a frenzy. Don’t let politicians tell you (us) how to think. Ever.
It will lead to ruin.
Agreed!
Lasana the thought of that particular Minister in porn!
I cannot even imagine ….
It takes all sorts. Lol
Actually Mel the thought of that minister in porn makes me giggle?.
I feel seasick. Lol
Yuh mean it have NUTTIN better to think of?
Giggle? I buss out ah laugh
Lasana real stretch meh imagination yes 🙂
Lynch say cricket on and it making him tired
Mel you need plenty expansion to fit that in oui.
Ravi is Mel put the thought in my head eh. Den it didn’t have room for nutten else?
To much hypocrites in t&t yes!!
This country is divided along racial lines. We are our own worst enemies may God help us.
This is not kaiso ,either you are too young or you have not been exposed to a true exponent of the art form,reminds me of Watchman….double entendre….A joke,go back and play a Spoiler
Who called it kaiso?
Well that is the point I was trying to make.
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Yes it’s kaiso! We don’t get to redefine it because it’s tasteless and we don’t like it ! There have been many bad ones before. This is all part of the hypocrisy
Agree Brian
Short Pants, Michael Samuel, Kizzie Ruiz, Duane O’Connor… Only if you feel up to it. Lol.
Do itttttttt. Can you all not see how much help we need?
I await a real calypsonian’s take on this. There is the potential for a good commentary on this commentary.
And while you all arguing over something that is clearly politically motivated, a boat still haven’t been procured for Tobago sea bridge, A&V Drilling still high and dry with $$ , the money from THA gone to the wrong account that’s still ‘ unknown’ and so much more… nice distraction eh
Careful. Counting is a risky business these days. Lol
Lasana Liburd accounting seems to be out of style
I agree & I would still like Camille to condem everything they sang about Kamla.
They love to have “independent” audits that they pay for and then keep the results private.
Lancelot Mc Donald like I said , I hope this precedent is now set across the board.. let’s see what calypsos coming next year and who’s calling for it to be banned
Or maybe the women made this an issue to deter attention from the ‘porn’ issue that’s brewing
Devica as far as I have seen, nothing shown over the last few weeks of PNM ministers can reasonably be considered porn either.
And Trinidad and Tobago consumes enough to know the difference. ?
Every single day there’s another controversy or crime to distract from the real issues with this government. We will eat crix but we jamming still.
Distraction!thats how this government in run.
If he did not have that suggestive hook line the song would have been palatable. Remember children would want to sing this song.
I cud remember a few months ago bubbles went to a school and singing it Bunning it Bunning and d kids patting der privet wat does dat song say and d kids sing along and kno know d dance too why dat song wasnt band
well said devica
Devica Maharaj-Ramnath this govt has had more controversy and distractions than the last? ???
The song is a ‘shit’ song…but I was inquisitive and listened to it…
If he changed it to ‘Rowlee Murder Count’ he may be somewhat relavant
Lol
Kaiso kaiso!
Ah get ah dream?
Can you imagine… in an American accent the question is posed …
“what’s all this hullabaloo about your murrrder count ” .. papa yo… this thing have legs oui
Now you just need to spend a little more time on your verses than Massive did!
Tony Maxwell Hatt is brilliant!
Karene Asche could run with that one?. He murder count will be a hit?
A wrong is a wrong ,we cannot use a wrong to justify a wrong,as they say two wrongs…..I witnessing the degeneration of my country
That guy might be setting himself up!
This is the land of kaiso cro cro and the pnm should support you
Like you all find your voice after all the years of degrading calypso about the opposition when they were in government . Is rowley what hurting you all.we jamming still.
You tell them Harry.
Mr. Panchoo the word if says it all but they didn’t.
We are almost into 2018. Lawlessness is out of control ; we need to start pushing more positive messages if we want to move our country forward.
If sugar alloes or cro cro sing a song about your mudda no body would have say anything but massive song hit them hard .
True.
Who DEM??
If you want to sing about Rowley do so but don’t bring his mother in it
Did he sing any thing degrading about HIS mother.
Better question is why disrespect our leaders?
I agee with you
So all calypso from now should not disrespect political leaders? Or all politicians? Or all people?
And what do we define “disrespect” as so we will know how to gauge future songs?
Women is like a golf course isnt dat demeaning?
Oh ghad ooh too much
The society is on edge .. and as usual we use ‘race’ as our trump card in 2018 as people are very quick to take offence now at something that years ago would have been deemed to be a bit of satire and double entendre. But social media has given everyone a stage to voice their objections as you talked about Blakie calypso .. “Hold the Pussy” … but now the ‘leaders’ want to get more ‘stage time’ than the singer ..
Too disrespectful.
Like d dog rice issue….remember
The big difference here is that you have identified Rowley and his mother for denigration. But when the PM say he not indulging in Jamettery all the women groups want to kill him but have no problem with denigrating Rowlees mother. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Women’s groups denigrating Rowley’s mother? Riiight…
Hi Lasana lol no comments if was shiva boys yes
U have any comments Carol John
Lasagna is not you Jack talked about? Women’s group agreeing with the denigration of Rowlees mudda. I thought you would have caught on?
All the political women’s groups are just there to score cheap points or defend the indefensible. The PNM women’s group is just as nonsensical as the UNC’s women group.
It was an insult to Rowley not to his mother. People (not trying to single you out here!) need to be honest so we can have a proper conversation about issues.
When the PNM family day showed a woman pretending to be Kamla carrying a bottle and falling over drunk doing the march past, the UNC condemned it and the PNM condoned it.
It’s just the same nonsense on repeat all the time. Best to forget about politicians if you want to have a sensible conversation.
So you agree a bunch of hypocrites these women groups.
Absolutely. All of them. Politics on the whole is about trying to make dishonesty sound palatable. Politicians should never lead any conversation. They are not equipped for that job. We should start dictating to them rather than the other way around.
What about when Rowley said she cat, referring to Kamla
Good one Radica Barath
Well missy when Rowley said I let go my dog tie up your cat. He didn’t say kyat. It just UNC women group were up in arms putting all kind of meaning to that. Just a bunch of hypocrites
I wonder if Massive had sung Kamila mudda count if UNC women’s group would have love it like they do now?
You see if something is wrong it wrong and it does not matter who does it and to whom.
So if PNM thief and the people reject them it does not give the right for UNC to thief and say well PNM thief so who is we? So the people reject you. If UNC women’s group had condemned the song because it denigrates not only Rowleys mother but mothers on the whole they would have legitimise themselves nut they have shown themselves to be a bunch of frauds and hypocrites
Why call the name Rowley ? Do you have a mother? Have you no principles, respect or values? I will pray for you, blessings!!!☘
I believe that the song/situation has exposed the underbelly of Trinidad and Tobago tribal influences.
I think our underbelly always showing personally. Lol
That underbelly of which you speak was truly exposed since 2015 or there about.
I think it was there before … and you cant rely on politicians to improve the mess we are in .
We need some serious therapy.
Politicians hop in the gutter as soon as it suits with “you can’t vote for a Tobagonian”, “you can’t just a Trinidadian”, “the Calcutta ship coming”, “he didn’t give houses to anyone named Mala”, etc, etc…
And, with social media the tool it is today, many can hide behind fake profiles and go full? without fear of exposure.
Yeah. That’s the thing about social media. And that’s why Wired868 Facebook groups are closed.
Anyone can join but we reserve the right to chuck anyone out who doesn’t behave.
Yet people claim Wired is “racist” (without being able to substantiate that claim mind you).
Smh
Smh!!!!!sad yes….just sad
I don’t know. I looked at the video and listened to the song and while I have to conclude it is a shit song (he and Iwer could battle for the title) I didn’t think it warranted all the attention. Politicians have always been fair game for ridicule at carnival time. It’s not that different from “Paul yuh mudda come”. Directing it at the PM himself might be distasteful but over the years so many politicians name jump up in picong. Even the Dame Lorraine character was ho hum for me. Don’t know why he went with blackface as opposed to just using a dark skinned woman. Maybe he just couldn’t get one on his budget. I hardly think he set out to send a message with the blackface. I don’t think Trini people all that sensitive about “blackface”. We accustomed to black paint at carnival time and minstrels etc. It’s such a nonsensical song about counting produce. It just giving Massive airplay.
Actually it probably won’t give Massive airplay on any station that hopes to get Govt ads.
I’m glad you said it, yes. Read the comments above about who racist etc..sigh
Blackface is racist. When you do it, you open yourself up to that accusation. Best to apologise promptly and plead ignorance if you didn’t mean it.
So Savitri, you’re saying that people are racist for calling Nermal racist on whatever thread?
I know blackface in itself is racist. But somehow because an integral part of our carnival involves people painting their faces black I think the concept itself goes over our heads. I just don’t see it as offensive in this context as if it were depicted in a movie or a play or something other than carnival. But that’s just me. Just like the dame Lorraine. I See a carnival character not a deliberate insult to big bottom black women.
Savitri I don’t really understand your comment above “you’re glad I said it”. As opposed to someone else saying it?? And saying what? That it’s a shit song not worth the massive discussion?
I caught the Dame Lorraine reference. Rowley is Tobagonian. So it made sense.
Truth is that it is hard work being PC in this millennium. I won’t pretend otherwise. He should just apologise for the caricature and move on. Better that then to have the debate drag on because it isn’t helping him either.
I’m sure he’d prefer people focus on the song as opposed to the video.
“Just to be clear, “mudda” talk has about as much to do with mothers as hot dogs have to do with canines.”
If “mudda talk” had nothing to do with mothers then there wouldn’t be such a focus on ‘muddas.’ Let’s not play smart with foolishness, ‘fadda’ talk, sister talk or bredda talk just isn’t as insulting. There is a reason why mothers are targeted and precisely why many find the song so offensive. I won’t even comment further on the video and its depiction of the use of blackface and the gross caricatures of the black female anatomy.
That doesn’t mean they are insulting your mother. If they tell you that your mother is fat and ugly, they’re insulting your mom.
If someone tells you your mother count… it really doesn’t have anything to do with your mother.
Or are you saying that hundreds of drivers everyday are trying to insult the mothers of bad drivers? ?
Of course it’s not directed at anyone’s mother specifically… that isn’t what I said, and neither is that the same thing as saying “mudda talk” has nothing to do with mothers. It has *everything* to do with mothers in the abstract.
Nigel let me put it another way, if your son tells a boy on his class that his mother count.
Should he apologize to the other boy? Or to the other boy’s mother?
Lasana I’m not sure what you’re getting at. I’ve already conceded that “mudda talk” isn’t targeted at the recipient’s mother specifically.
That is different from saying it has nothing to do with mothers.
Maybe you should have said “Just to be clear, “Rowlee Mother Count” has as much to do with Mama Rowley as a hot dog has to do with his pooch”… but that isn’t what was written.
Ok. Cool.
whats the real issue though; the Lyrical content or the Video, or both? Because ive heard worst that was accepted and played over the airwaves in the last 1 years
I would have imagined it was the wearing of blackface in the video, but the PNM Women’s League said it’s the song.
To be honest the PNM Women’s Leagues never struck me as chutney aficionados!
Vernal Damion Cadogan, yup, the consensus seemed to be the blackface used, not sure they even listented to the song or read the lyrics, or just saw the name of it.
Wonder how they so up in arms over that when a male comedian who is a supporter sported blackface too?
Blackface can be funny, but it’s best to err on the side of caution where that is concerned, particularly if you aren’t of African decent. Robert Downey Jr pulled it off very well in the comedy Tropical Heat. Because of our history and the painful part blackface has played in it I would advise against doing it. The PNM Women’s League obviously jumped at what they saw as an opportunity to score political points, but was so hasty to defend their messiah that they never even noticed the offensive blackface.
Vernal I only ask because some are making an issue of the lyrics. I too found the video to be tasteless
I only heard the chorus and it seemed no more distasteful than other songs that played on the phrase “Yuh muddah c&%t”.
You ever ask yourself what is the purpose of the PNM and UNC’s women’s leagues?
Vernal like Kya go fuh-cane?
Of course we forget! The complete conversation has been one of convenience .
Good read!!! Loved how you ended fogging up the place… complete with non-weather forecast disclosure
Thanks Brian. ?
Lasana Liburd how long did it take to write this piece?
Can’t remember. About 30 minutes to an hour I think. Most of it doing research like getting the lyrics to Little Black Boy or finding statements from the different groups on this. Why you ask?
well put together.
thanks
The bredda is gifted. I tried to teef him once. Glad he turned me down.
thanks Orin
Remember this photo from PNM family day?
I remember it playing out when they called Rowley a rapist and child of rape. When we open a pandora of box of using people’s possible personal life its a nasty business that takes hold. Again because we no longer care for substance.
Yes. Sins on all sides. Everyone being hypocritical too. Nobody really trying to locate moral high ground.
How is this even similar? Are they talking about Kamla’s family? Her mother? Her Nani?
The offense of Massive’s song/video was supposedly: disrespect to women, disrespect to office, poor taste, obscene, poor example to youth of nation…
If you see that depiction of Kamla as ticking any of those boxes, then there you go.
How does the depiction of Kamla disrespect ‘women’ in the abstract? As opposed targeted ridicule of one person… who happens to be a woman? The only thing arguably in poor taste is the photo itself, in that the angle from which it is taken ends up leaving the young girl a bit more exposed than she probably intended. How is the depiction “obscene”? Or a “poor example to youth”? There is nothing itself wrong with the depiction save for perhaps the “disrespect to office” charge.
Btw what’s the story behind this photo?..is that a bottle of Absolut in she hand?lol
Nigel then go with that.
So what’s new? It’s near carnival and therefore bacchanal, is expected. I can’t believe this is what we talking about. Why? What’s offensive? How many of us listen to Eddie Murphy crude jokes or Richards Pryor and laugh whereby these individuals made jokes about white people and Chinese and by the way we do it. Why are giving this person all this importance?
I have no flippin idea what all the fuss is about but that’s just me
I thinks it’s more than a fringe tho…
Well it won’t be an easy thing to do a head count. It is very possible that some are intentionally playing for their base audience though.
We are really not about substance anymore just unhinged thought processes and poor logic. When the CJ made his foolish judge appoints causing many cases to be in disarray nobody bats an eye , the CJ might be in a gay love triangle with a con artist everybody ears perk up! Massive Gosine shows the shallowness of his mind and emptiness of those who love the song.
Just saw the video but I had to read the comments……whoo sah. As a fellow Trinidadian why fight amongst ourselves, we should come together and fight against corruption and crime rather than bringing down each other.
To be honest I see nothing wrong with the song because this is the land of piong, however, disrespecting someone’s mother is wrong whether whatever race you are. Using the blackface in the video shows racism, he may not have done it intentionally people whether he is UNC or PNM.
P.S I am against racism and I despise it. Can’t we all just get along?
WIRE..this commentary was class all the way..subtle touches, flowing drives and solid pulls on both sides of the racial divide…
#UNITY…
Wait…
Hot dogs have nothing to do with canines?
Savitri,pls read my comment carefully.I never said he was ”IndoTrini/UNC. Read again my sister.
Savitri,I made my comments based on my 55 years of living in this country.I made my comments based on the comments from listeners to Power 102 fm,I 95.5 fm,Sangeet 106.5,90.5 fm etc..I trust that the aforementioned answered your question.
Lasana,lookout ,derailment is approaching(lol)
While Massive Gosine cannot be equated to Cro Cro ,in terms of lyrical talent,he is to the Indo Trini/UNC what Cro Cro is to the Afro Trini/PNM. Until we can have a national conversation on race relations throughout the length and breadth of Trinidad and Tobago,we will continue to have these discussions.
Lance wherre did you get he was a Indo Trini/UNC? He sang for the PNM before. It’s in his latest rebuttal on Singh’s decision
And somewhere In Gosein’s response, one got the feeling that he saw his song as an equaliser for Indo-Trinis.
Is the assumption that once you are not Indo-Trini, you are automatically PNM? Sigh.
And Lasana, that is what Wired868 has become. The racism is rife here now
And Lasana, does it mean once you are Indo Trini you are automatically UNC?
Savitri that would be the other side of that coin. Yes. That’s the sad assumption.
And once we see ourselves that way we have no hope.
Savitri you think Wired868 is a racist group?
It has become so
Lance his composition skills are more comparable to Iwer. Lol.
Savitri then tag me where you see that. I disagree.
Because there is a racist in a building doesn’t mean the building is racist. I think you’re well off the mark to be honest.
Also if you criticize Rowley you are assumed UNC. And if the PNM Woman’s League condemns you, yuh ass UNC fuh life! LOL
Lasana Liburd ,they are comparable to my 10 year old niece,actually(lol)
Savitri probably means that the discussion has become polarized along racial lines… far different from the group being “racist”… and far wrong in that implication as well.
Yuh know I din listen to this song until they opened their jaws, but just checking, the song has had 65K hits so far. Suddenly everyone offended
And nothing is wrong with the song …. it was just the blackface in the video, but neither side wants to admit being wrong.
Vernal did the PNM Womens’ Group mention the blac face at all? This all came about when people listened, but could find nothing…bandwagonist behaviour
And honestly, I din see the black face, I saw the bottom first..lol
Savitri, the women’s arm defending Rowley’s mother’s honour. Their protest as shallow as the song. Lol
Lasana, watchna! Like you said the murder count more important..we aiming for 500..steups
Savitri,
Williams once spoke of Trinidad’s recalcitrant minority, but it seems only I recognize the recalcitrant majority!
This is a different generation, Vernal, they will fight back with the same “weapons”
This issue proved to me that the least important thing in any Trini disagreement is the subject of that disagreement.
Sorry, correction 56K hits..a bit dyslexic there
We still don’t know where criminals come from. Once we don’t, we will never make any headway with any “crime fighting plan”.
And it’s all political eh, but let me sum up Trinidad politics for you.
Trinidad politics is like flipping a 25 cent piece and hoping it will land with the 50 cent side up!
Verns, you’re on a roll! Lol
I not able nah, when I read some threads I feel like one of the few survivors on The Walking Dead.
You know we in a bad way when a supposedly offensive song (did not see video/listen to song and don’t care to) gets more attention than a murder rate of almost 500.
Girl, is Trinidad, murder more ubiquitous dan calypso.
Doh laugh nah, is true!
Sad truth yes.
Lots to be counted and be offended by: numbers of gangs, gangstas, returning jihadists free to do as they please, rapists, rape and violent crime victims, people migrating because of violent crime and crappy governance (Inc Some PNM 2 DBone types – now there’s a numerical irony) etc.
Whats the average price of a front line costume now?
Probably more than a man’s life.
There is nothing in that hodge podge of words,written by Gosein,to deserve all this national attention.
Yeah. It was poor. And one would think it should be easy to create a reasonable protest song.
All he had to do was apologize for the blackface in the vid and he would have been straight.
I mean really … who does never say “Rowley mudder count yes”?
Lord knows I say it several times a day.
Vernal exactly! And it will just be another empty soca song with a catchy chorus and nothing else.
Lasana how much times I have to point out how Trinis could fog up a bread and bread sandwich?
The video was offensive so the PNM Woman’s League condemned the song. You eh see dem beh beh!
Sense!!!!
Thanks… And I’m crossing fingers that this thread won’t be derailed. Lol
Uncross yuh fingers from now bro.(lol)
This is my favourite line in the post………”It is not that Camille—and others—do not have a legitimate reason to be turned off by Massive’s song. It is just that when dishonesty has been your first language for long enough, your impulse to patronise supporters sidelines your ability to think.”
I was bout tuh derail it! LOL
Haha. What you were coming with Vernal?
Doh temp mih!
Temptress Here…