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Goodbye Russia: T&T’s lingering W/Cup hopes go down the Panama Canal after 3-0 loss

Trinidad and Tobago’s 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign is well and truly over now.

The Soca Warriors lost their sixth successive match last night as they fell 2-0 to Panama in Panama City; and it proved to be the final nail in their coffin, as it is now impossible for coach Dennis Lawrence’s troops to advance to Russia, despite having two qualifiers to spare against Mexico and the United States.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Radanfah Abu Bakr (left) and Panama right back Michael Amir Murillo vie for the ball during their 2018 World Cup qualifier in Panama City, on 5 September 2017.
(Copyright AFP 2017/Bienvenido Velasco)

Trinidad and Tobago had a perfect World Cup qualifying record against Panama before last night with five wins from as many outings. But Lawrence and his troops would have been under no illusions as to the size of the task.

The rookie six foot seven coach rang in the changes with six alterations to his starting team—only defender Sheldon Bateau and midfielders Kevan George, Joevin Jones and Kevin Molino kept their places from Friday’s 2-1 home defeat to Honduras—while he swapped their 4-1-4-1 formation for 5-4-1.

He would have been reasonably encouraged too after the first half hour, as the Warriors created two half-chances for striker Willis Plaza—neither of which ended with a shot on target—and won frequent free kicks down either flank by Kevin Molino and Joevin Jones.

Lawrence might have expected to trouble Panama from set pieces with Sheldon Bateau, Carlyle Mitchell, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Mekeil Williams all in the starting line-up and capable in the air. But, instead, the Warriors repeatedly failed to deliver testing crosses into the box, with Jones particularly culpable.

Ironically, Panama capitalised directly from a Trinidad and Tobago set piece in the 39th minute as Gabriel Torres sprinted half the length of the pitch—easily outfoxing Curtis Gonzales and Kevan George on the way—before finishing between the legs of goalkeeper Marvin Phillip.

Photo: Panama defender Roman Torres (right) tries to keep up with Trinidad and Tobago forward Willis Plaza during their 2018 World Cup qualifier in Panama City, on 5 September 2017.
(Copyright AFP 2017/Bienvenido Velasco)

Winger Nathan Lewis, who gave a decent showing at right wing-back, tested opposing goalkeeper José Calderón with a low shot at his near post in the 49th minute.

But the mood darkened considerably for the Warriors when Carlyle Mitchell inadvertently headed past his own goalkeeper in the 57th minute off a cross from Panama winger Alberto Quintero. Panama 2, T&T 0.

The Warriors ought to have halved the deficit in the 70th minute when s Calderón inexplicably spilled a shot by Trinidad and Tobago substitute Khaleem Hyland from outside the six-yard box.

The ball dropped fortuitously for Plaza in the six-yard box and the India-based forward, who had followed up smartly to get the chance in the first place, clipped his first-time effort over the fallen goalkeeper, only to watch it rap the bar before going over.

After that, there was never going to be a way back. Bateau kept Panama at bay in the 83rd minute with a superb last-gasp challenge on opposing midfielder Édgar Yoel Bárcenas from a counter-attack.

But, seconds later, Panama substitute Abdiel Arroyo cut in off the left flank and beat Phillip with a right-footed strike that deflected off Mitchell.

Photo: Panama forward Abdiel Arroyo (left) squeezes his shot past Trinidad and Tobago defender Carlyle Mitchell (right) for his team’s third and final goal during their 2018 World Cup qualifier in Panama City on 5 September, 2017.
(Copyright AFP 2017/Bienvenido Velasco)

The emphatic 3-0 scoreline almost doubled Panama’s goal tally in the Hex in a single night. The Central American nation had scored only four goals in their seven previous competitive games combined.

The result, coupled with the United States’ 1-1 draw away to Honduras, pushed Panama into third spot and gave them a real chance of joining Mexico and Costa Rica as automatic qualifiers for the Russia World Cup. It would be their first appearance at a senior FIFA tournament.

For Trinidad and Tobago, the next two qualifiers will be joyless affairs, the first away to Mexico on 6 October and the last at home to the United States on 10 October.

The Warriors can conceivably play the role of spoilers as, should they hold the US to a draw, they can force the North American nation to settle for a FIFA Play-off spot or even miss out on the showpiece 2018 tournament altogether.

But there is now no way for the Trinidad and Tobago Warriors to achieve their initial goal and get to Russia themselves.


Trinidad and Tobago (5-4-1): 1.Marvin Phillip (GK); 16.Nathan Lewis, 4.Sheldon Bateau (captain), 12.Carlyle Mitchell, 6.Radanfah Abu Bakr, 17.Mekeil Williams; 10.Kevin Molino, 19.Kevan George (8.Khaleem Hyland 50), 15.Curtis Gonzales, 3.Joevin Jones (7.Cordell Cato 62); 9.Willis Plaza (11.Tyrone Charles 76).

Unused substitutes: 21.Jan-Michael Williams (GK), 22.Adrian Foncette (GK), 2.Aubrey David, 5.Daneil Cyrus, 13.Kevon Villaroel, 18.Triston Hodge, 20.Jamille Boatswain, 23.Leston Paul.

Coach: Dennis Lawrence

Panama (4-2-3-1): 12.José Calderón (GK); 2.Michael Murillo, 4.Fidel Escobar, 5.Román Torres (captain) (23.Felipe Baloy 80), 17.Luis Ovalle; 6.Gabriel Gómez (22.Abdiel Arroyo 72), 20.Anibal Godoy; 19.Alberto Quintero (11.Armando Cooper 82), 9.Gabriel Torres, 8.Édgar Yoel Bárcenas; 7.Blas Pérez.

Unused substitutes: 1.Alex Rodriguez (GK), 3.Roberto Chen, 10.Ricardo Buitrago, 13.Adolfo Machado, 15.Eric Davis, 16.Jose Gonzales, 18.Luis Tejada, 21.Roberto Nurse.

Coach: Hernán Gómez

Referee: Henry Bejarano (Costa Rica)

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago midfielder Kevin Molino (top) tries to hurdle Panama substitute Armando Cooper during their 2018 World Cup qualifier football match in Panama City, on 5 September 2017.
(Copyright AFP 2017/Bienvenido Velasco)

2018 World Cup qualifying results

(Tuesday 5 September)

Honduras 1 (Romell Quito 28), USA 1 (Bobby Wood 85) in San Pedro Sula;

*—Red card: Henry Figueroa (Hon)

Panama 3 (Gabriel Torres 39, Carlyle Mitchell OG 57, Abdiel Arroyo 84), Trinidad and Tobago 0 in Panama City;

Costa Rica 1 (Marco Ureña 83), Mexico 1 (Christian Gamboa OG 42) in San José;

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago coach Dennis Lawrence gives instructions during the 2018 World Cup football qualifier match against Panama in Panama City, on 5 September 2017.
(Copyright AFP 2017/Ed Grimaldo)


Mexico            8-5-3-0-11-3-18

Costa Rica      8-4-3-1-12-5-15

Panama             8-2-4-2-7-5-10

United States  8-2-3-3-12-11-9

Honduras        8-2-3-3-9-16-9

T&T                  8-1-0-7-4-15-3

About Lasana Liburd

Lasana Liburd
Lasana Liburd is the CEO and Editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.

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  1. Honestly losing is hard however is the kind of goals being scored on us i still baffled .

  2. Excerpt from our Tuesday night CPL game: When Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) President David John-Williams put in an appearance at the halfway stage, the Biggest Party in Sport became the Biggest Shit Talk Party in Sport.

    “Eh eh,” Eyelashes started the ball rolling, “wha he doing here? Bailiff take he TV or he cyar bear to watch the Shithong Warriors?”

  3. All footballing activities on the international level in Trinidad should be immediately suspended until they’re ready to field and organized , disciplined team that’s ready to compete .Everything should be put to a stop until after the World Cup .Everything needs to be rebuilt from scratch .From board to coach to players .We need to make a plan .

  4. T& t played the wrong formation, 5-4-1 is a to defensive formation, we would have been better off playing a 4-3-3, more attacking # The best method of defense is to attack.

  5. ..8 matches and 3 points. Call some Super League players. They SURELY cannot do worse..

  6. Football has more govt and corporate support.but Athletics has put us on the map in world wide yet it is treated like a long time basterd child

  7. Them eh even win one match. Steups.

  8. Just that game T&T play last night the totally was not ready

  9. The gps equipment was a trial and a loan. ….cyah blame the guy for trying to get us updated training options ..

  10. Dennis L had more than some coaches before him ….remember they introduced the GPS fitness monitoring equipment .. which other coaches didn’t have … but this assignment was out of his league ….

  11. One thing ah didn’t understand was de high degree of experimentation in another do-or-die game. Or is it dat Lawrence felt he had nothing to lose and decided to gamble? Nathan Lewis as a right back, Mekeil Williams in a consistently advanced position, de formation dat was used etc. Ah guess Nathan Lewis is now like ManU’s Valencia. It was baffling. Whatever yes.

    • Given the abject performance against Honduras, I’m guessing the coach wasn’t about to “reward” mediocrity with playing time and essentially was sending a message to his squad.

      It’s the only plausible reason I can think of in the circumstances

  12. Sooooo….Are we now going to fire the coach and look for a new one after the team get beat all over the place?

  13. Next 2 games he should give the youngsters a chance. Time to start preparing for 2026…forget about Qatar 2022 for now. If we make it to that WC then great, if not at least we’re rebuilding. Start back scouting in primary schools…at Intercol….that’s where the talent should be nurtured. And lastly, DJW and Dennis Lawrence need to ride tf out!

    • That scouting in school will be good but this country is about favoritism because them looking for plays from w connection an central fc because of the coaches an who no who cause other plays those try out to who really good but never get the chance

    • Time for Lawrence to go…We prob finally pay him for taking us to the world cup in 2006 but he ent ready to coach a national team. DJW you are a disgrace, we had a good coach in Hart and you got rid of him because he wanted to instill discipline… Joevin Jones complete waste of time…Since last Friday this man trying to take a free kick and cant get it past a wall… and the sad thing is he suppose to be one of our brightest prospect…dont worry same shit will happen again we would say we would start planning for the next campaign and guess what nothing would ever materialize as usual…TTFA you keep failing but guess what nobody would ever hold you accountable so continue with the bullshit…typical trinidad i guess…total friggin failure

  14. The misery is over. I think we need to take a time out and reflect.

  15. well they did better than I thought. I predicted 4-0 and they lost 3-0. DJW is the main cause of this debacle together with the likes of that announcer from I95.5 Andre Baptiste who kept calling for the firing of Hart. Imagine a “sports announcer ” with no football knowledge calling for the dismissal of a coach. Trinidad is a joke, he would never get a job as a sports commentator in any first world country. That job is left for the subject expertswho particiated in the sport at a high level

  16. Hey, I am glad we got into the hex.. Reality.. We had no business being there as we are not good enough in any category of the game (technically and tactically) and our player pool (outside of maybe 3players) lack serious quality.. We are even inferior to teams who didn’t qualify for the hex (Jamaica) far less the ones currently playing in it.. In this competition playing Trinidad was an automatic 3pts with little to no effort. Anything less was a disastrous result(cue reaction of coach who lost to trini).
    The best thing about the hex was We as a viewing public got a chance to see some class players in concacaf who ply their trade in some the Best leagues in the world play in TT for small money… And for that I am most greatful..

    • I figured we had an opportunity to build our brand by giving some teams a scare and not being pushovers, which would have been a continuation to our performances at the 2013 and 2015 Gold Cups.
      I’d have settled for that.

    • Lasana Liburd i saw last night Venezuela gave a very could account of themselves, against the mighty Argentina….Venezuela is in turmoil at present….thats what was missing in our campaign

    • I think you’re wrong. The team under Hart was one of the 6 best in concacaf. We deserved to be there. That 2-2 draw vs the USA in the qualifying group was dropped points for us. We were better than them at that point (when they were under kliinsman)Things fell apart during the period before the hex began and that stage, unfortunately (or coincidentally)

    • Kion S Williams we drew 2 all against guatemala and goaless against usa

    • No i am right. Hart had the boys playing with structure and belief. Doesn’t mean there were more talented and we deserved to be there. We had only 1 team to worry about in our pre hex qualifying group (USA). So we did what we were supposed to do. Does not mean we deserved to be in the hex. We qualified due to a favourable draw.. Not our fault.. But let’s nor kid ourselves.. Our technical deficiencies have always been there and we are not good enough to play off script. Hart found a system that worked for us given our technical ability (good coach) vs systems where our technical deficiencies are exposed (Lawrence =not so good coach).. And FYI, a 2/2 draw against US, even on our best day is never points dropped.. It is a point earned.. (And that includes our teams from the 80s and up who were waaaaaay better man for man that this current trini team)

      • Guatemala is a good team and we had beaten them in Guatemala City, 2-1 and then drew 0-0 at home to USA, Ballpest got shot in his leg around that time as well. The team wasn’t the best team but it was good enough to ruff up most CONCACAF teams. Dennis Lawrence team almost same players but not even a shadow of Hart’s team.

    • I saw this team live when we played Mexico and drew 4-4. Hart had figured out something with the talent he had at his disposal …based on the fight I saw on that team and the effort being put forward by our current bunch. I have to say I disagree with your assessment. …this is a team that had some tools to make an impact but from a discipline and personnel perspective unfortunate choices were made …..

    • Trini Don correct. My memory combined both home games as dropped points….We were on our downward curve with the Guatemala game though

  17. Let them take a 2-year hiatus, and use that time in training, training and more training. Rest the partying during that time also. Let them get hungry to win. Right now, they are somewhat peckish, but not hungry enough to win.

  18. We still underused Levi since his debut though…
    Really don’t know why the coaches didn’t give him more of an opportunity.

    • He hasn’t done enough in his chances…and his natural spot is where Joevin Jones is, who has consistently been the best player on a poor team. I am in the other camp though, that he is more valuable to us plying his trade in Holland and becoming an established pro starting on his team. before we burden him with flights for meaningless internationals if he is not a guaranteed starter.

    • That isn’t true. He came off the bench and scored two goals to churn out a win and then had to sit and watch other inferior players start ahead of him.
      So I continue to be confused by the claim that he didn’t do enough with his chances. He wasn’t given them. There was talk of his age and not giving him too much too soon after his debut. Nonsense quite frankly that is not applicable to all playsers. Additionally, Joevin plays different spots for club and national team.
      Levi could have done the same.
      Plus had Joevin not been guaranteed his spot he might have had a different attitude.
      Plus who knows… the consistently best player could have changed had Levi been given a fair shot.
      You can’t be a team who has only qualified for the WC once, and have a player playing in the top flight of a European league and not find a starting spot for him somewhere. That’s just crazy to me.

    • Possibly…I saw a few games where he came on and it seemed to me that the players were upset at his decision making in terms on not picking the correct pass. and defensively he wasn’t doing the job either. So we don’t know what the coach was looking for. Perhaps with a longer run he would have made a difference. Personally though, I see him as our only shot at having a future star and I think it”s more important for him to be a firm starter at his club than to burden him with the T&T trips.

    • More than anybody else on the field did that day…

    • Levi Garcia is the only person on our current national team that plus his trade (and plays) in the top tier a recognised european league.. USA figured out how to use pulisic (with better players than TT) yet Trinidad with its no talent player pool can’t find a way to get him on the pitch.. Really?

    • Folks Levi is not playing with his career .he is not mentally prepared for the ransom sacrifice .let him stay in Holland and fight hard for his pick where week in week out the standard is high ….the boy reach

    • Dutch league and MLS are on the same level nowadays

    • Simone I guess that’s why so many MLS players are in demand in top European leagues?

    • I don’t blame AZ for not being as forth coming with their asset… I do blame us (by us I mean coaching staff) for its inability to find a way to get Levi on the pitch so he can grow as an international player at the senior level.. He will never play against a Navas as a goalkeeper in Holland.. Or see how calm you can be on a ball even in tight situation (Ruiz Costa Rica) or playing in real hostile environments.

    • MLS is not a feeder league. They are not interested in it. They have the money to retain players to a certain extent.

    • MLS has players like Giovinco who would never play their trade in Holland.

    • Whether MLS is interested or not is besides the point. If MLS were on par with the Eredivisie you would see a lot of other European clubs coming in for MLS players… but they’re not. Why is that… if the quality of MKS is on par?

      Players like Giovinco know they can earn a good salary as foreign designated players, and get to live in the US. That latter part alone is a big enough draw for many. I hardly think it’s because they rate MLS over the Dutch league.

    • Now if the question is whether a young player should choose between playing in MLS and Holland, that’s a different topic. Even Belgium would provide more opportunity to move to a top 5 league than MLS does.

      But here we are talking about the level of the league per se and the type of competition you can expect and simply the difference beyond perhaps PSV, it is immaterial with MLS.

    • MLS isn’t a feeder League because they have no food to offer.

    • Let me give you an example. Liga MX is higher quality competition top to bottom than Argentina Primera. However Argentina Primera is more of a feeder league to Europe. Why? Salary is higher in Mexico and second thing Argentina has a better National Team reputation, not to mention overwhelming majority of Argentinean players have EU passport, Mexicans do not

    • Since there’s no head to head competition between the Eredivisie and MLS the only objective criteria we could use is the quality of the players. MLS loses that one by a country mile.

    • Your argument makes little distinction on: 1. most players in Dutch league have EU passport, 2. they are in Europe already next door to Germany, France, England, etc and on the same calendar and transfer schedule 3. they get access to Europa League and CL which provides more exposure 4. Holland traditionally is a highly recognized National team, although almost none of its players stay local for long

    • The small teams in Holland have no financial power. Only depend on their academies.

    • …and on the other hand you offer what in support of your position exactly, other than a conclusory opinion? What objective criteria points to MLS’ quality? I’ll wait.

    • Altidore killed the scoring chart in Holland. Bradley scored double digits. I wonder why they cant produce the same output in MLS

    • By that metric, MLS is more competitive than Eredivisie. But I won’t go down your road to play that game. MLS is a league comparable to the second tier Europe leagues. Everyone in the industry recognizes that, or it wouldnt be possible to explain why USA national team which is 80% MLS based is able to advance to top 16 at the world cups eliminating teams like Portugal. Not to mention Costa Rica, has 7 out of 11 playing in MLS.

    • Because one or two US players (accepting your statements as true) scored prolifically in the Eredivisie but struggled in MLS that means the latter is better or comparable? That’s quite a logical leap.

      Have you considered that maybe they were playing with better players around them providing better service, or allowing for less focus from opposing defenses? Could it be that MLS is a more defensively minded and less free flowing League than the Eredivisie, permitting more scoring chances and higher scores?

      You don’t have to come down this road you might find that logic is too high a fare. Stick to poorly derived conclusions and logical fallacies such as your “everyone in the industry…” bald appeal to authority.

    • MLS more defensive minded? Probably one of the least defensive minded leagues existing worldwide. If anything that’s really what’s lacking to go to the next level. Thanks for proving you have no idea what you are talking about.

    • And thanks for proving that you lack basic reading comprehension. Nowhere did I state that as fact, I offered that there are many factors that might explain the difference in the experiences of the two players you cherry picked.

    • Ricardo Montoya MLS is a defensive minded league! I heard it all now

    • Ok you win. MLS is like Finland or Kazakhstan leagues. Happy now?

    • There are no cookies for winning internet arguments, but maybe that would explain your desperation in reaching for the half-assed conclusions you’re making about MLS’ supposed quality.

    • The only thing MLS (US) and Dutch have in common is that they have places that it legal to sell weed…. other than that there is no comparison… Not a one….

    • Eredivisie way above the MLS though

  19. What was Sol Campbell role in this campaign again ?????

  20. So I had to hold my comment until the obvious happened! We got embarrassed last night. Players pulling a Sancho . For all the DL fans who bawl they happy one of our own get picked when DL was chosen and its about long term development. No experience as a head coach, a bottom of the barrel assistant coach , Sol , Stern and still level cut arse.

    This time Venezuela giving Argentina a proper run for their money. A country which much less resources or barely nothing at all.

    Where all the talkers now!?

    • ?? I doh understand where this rant going? I like DL because of where his head is at. ….. is he inexperienced of course but imo he is a good coach in a bad situation. Now if this rant is to promote the vibe on Mr Fenwick …it’s unnecessary the majority of us would be in support of him (me included). That’s been stated on here on numerous occasions. But if you looking to just diss DL to say well “I told you so” …. that’s jus silly…… everyone takes piece of the blame …no one is exempt …but the source of the issue is the same one impeding your people’s appointment. ….so stop trying to kill the “pawn” when the “king” in the back laughing ….

    • I never said it was in support of any one and I’m not sure why you thought it was a rant as opposed to factual. There were radio programmes and many tv snipers promoting DL and DJW employees coming on this very site promoting him.as their choice …. FACT
      A good coach?? Based on what track record? The selection process was completely unethical. He was the number 3. The number one was thrown out but the second choice was never even told why he wasn’t selected. Then the entire committee resigned… ANOTHER FACT

      So all the other comments saying DL is inexperienced is a diss too ? I actually liked Hart and thought the way he was treated was disgusting and dishonest. So fire Hart to replace him with somebody YOU LIKED. This isn’t a popularity contest . Your like got us nowhere very quickly

    • I stand by a couple of things I felt Hartie should not have been fired…..DL of cause is inexperienced and ALL coaches ….minus none start this way. As to the manner in which he was selected etc still comes back to the same common denominator. The same guy who hired the balding belgian and told him he have two games to save his career (maniacal) ….the same guy who fired Hart…. The same guy who caused Morace to leave …the same guy who impedes Fenwick. Also don’t believe DJW liked DL ….. the committee selected him as he was about to do a u turn because he didnt like the terms the big Whale was projecting. The whale conceded because we were out of options. DL knew what he was coming into but a) he’d been through it before live and direct b)had been building up his resume under Martinez c) Has a defensive playing background so he was understandably seen as a possibility. So imo opinion it all comes back to DJW …. but to be fair people entitled to their opinions about things. My head still hot and I might have allowed myself to get pushed into this …my apologies

    • Lol I totally hear you and I agree with you on DJW. It isn’t just about DL, so apologies as well if I came across as though I was attacking him .What is Stern and Sol’s place in this entire thing?Their presence is never felt.
      How is it Venezuela under all their turmoil is getting results?
      Boy, it’s a depressing time, football is in reverse amongst other things.

  21. What are the odds that 2 brothers representing Trinidad and Tobago in sports lost on the same night in the respective fields? Kevon Cooper and Kevin Molino.

  22. Gary Hector, David John-Williams was at the CPL match last night.

  23. Just asking . How coming Terry Fenrick has never been considered for T&T head coach job

  24. Lasana…how much longer we have to wait for a Stephen Hart tell all? This team was on an upward trend before the TTFA election then it all fell apart. Or did the Molino boat ride come before that? Those were the two milestones that ruined the Gold Cup team.

  25. We need to mash up the machine that selects and elects our leaders , jobs for the boys killing we

  26. What they need to do is….end the entire TTFA, and all of the nepotism, and culturally stigmatized selections of representing our nation…
    And do some real scouting. Instead of selecting sons of former National Football players from the 70’s and 80’s, as well as who is 1st and 2nd cousin…just saying.

  27. I know alot persons have an afinity for local, but dennis has failed and latapy has also failed…..deñnis never coach before other than be an asst coach, latapy like wise except wen got charge of the national team…..stephen hart had a 37% win factor over his tenure and he had d team for 3 years, we almost did not qualify for the hex, esp with that 2 all draw at home to guatemala, we were also struggling under Hart….

  28. First goals and first win for them EVER over us in WC qualifiers….no words!

  29. In the game last night Jones and Molino were marked out. Panama easily nullified our attack. It was awful. i wonder if the gonna fire Dennis but if they fire him who’s gonna be hired? It better not be that clown with no intelligence Saintfiet. I wish Hart returns.

  30. Trinidad and Tobago Scotch and Coconut Water Association ( TTSCWA)

  31. IMAGINE..in your hands you got the keys to the world’s greatest sport..the biggest spectator sport… and no disrespect to other sports…but Squash, Monopoly,Tiddlywinks ,All Fours,Badminton ,Darts ,Chess better organized ??… This man get a TOY to play with …but he really need a GOOD BELT..man..get out we fottball nah…F#CK MAN.

  32. Lasana Liburd what’s next for DJW ? Is there an election soon ? Is there anyway to have a vote of no confidence and get this guy out? And not only him but the cancerous leeches that have plagued the administration for years if not decades . The old regime that have this sense of entitlement and power there . I speak of at least 4 names but 2 in particular

  33. Listen abroad there is a cadre of players who eat and sleep football. Beside the managerial problems in T&T for decades , we have been putting together players 3- 5 days before a match and want a miracle. People expects the boys win. Get real. suspend what monies?Only BOYS at the top pay themselves. You know how much monies owed to officials and players, For over 40 years or more is the same ole story in every SPORT in T&T nepotism and monetary impropriety . NO Jail.

  34. Lasana Liburd sometimes you get the feeling that the world is moving forward with their football plan and it reflects well in their successes while we just regress.

  35. Taxpayers need to demand all monies be suspended to pay for these national programs until a thorough assessment of why our national teams are failing is done. We are not getting value for money and these players are not playing up to their potential. From the men’s senior national team, to the women’s to our U15s!!!!!!

  36. Like so many other sports is structurally defective..

  37. More flagellation? If you plant corn you won’t get cane…Pep Guardiola…Angellotti…Scolarii ..the result would have been the same..crude but fair example…Look at the Galacia mess..Before it was Udecott,,the Airport…Footballlike so mn

  38. Terry Terence William Fenwick yuh say Brian Springer ??… can someone explain how Terry never even got an appointment in tnt football ??…at any level ??.. even to cut the grass ??…that alone reveals SO much… and its sad..it is 2017.

  39. The team looked like they didn’t have a clue what to do with or without the ball. That led to some of the individualistic play. The goals were comical. Plaza is not an international level player. Lawrence is clearly not ready for this level. The entire operation from DJW down to the team is amateurish.

    I can’t believe we could get this bad so quickly from a high 2 years ago.

  40. I am so disgusted this morning it ain’t funny… Stephen Hart dug us out of a deep hole… anyone remember us being eliminated by Guyana and not even Making the hex??? We fire him after 2 losses in the Hex but Tallest has now lost FIVE in a row… STEUPS!!!!! Russia 2018 is OVER…I say bring in Terry Fenwick and let’s start preparing for 2022 by putting him in charge of our U-23 team who will have to begin preparing for the 2020 OLYMPICS and they can form the nucleus of our 2022 effort…Begin Scouting for additional players both domestically and among foreign-born and put together a Strategic Plan.

    • Patriot…I see this as the only way forward. I was going to wait until the outrcry here dies down so it won’t get lost. Whether it’s with Tallest or somebody new, we need to get together a team of players who are U-23 in 2020, so they would be 20 years old now. That’s basically the last two years of SSFL stars. (shiva boys and naps plus some others). Put that side together.

      Have a combine every christmas and every july for the boys who went away to college and add them to the mix.

      Leave Joevin and Levi to become established european based pros and don’t bother them until 2021…retire everybody else.

      I genuinely sorry for the 22/23 year olds who now breaking through, but you will hadda impress in Concacaf Champions League to get a pro contract now, not on the international stage. Your window was lost under this administration.

    • Very good but the problem with that is they can t control him that’s why they don’t want him

  41. The things I don’t want to believe is that our talent pool seems exhausted ….but it’s hard to think otherwise and also we are “soft” …. I’d bet my life savings that no “striker” going to “cap” a central defender, “belt” the other central defender. ….run about 40 meters through the defence then finish “between the goalkeepers legs” on a “Jamaican” team ……there would be a “homicide on that field” before that happens so not only do I question our structure I boldfacedly question our “belly” …..

  42. As I said previously, the product on the field is an inferior product. We need to go back to the drawing board and develop a new more versatile product. The good thing is that we have a little less than 5 years to get things right. We first need to start with the brainstorming session with key stakeholders. Our player and coaching talent pool is small when compared to our counterparts in Concacaf, so we might need to tap into the foreign market to help with the development process. We will need to think broadly and have an opened mind.

  43. Unless there is a mentality change ,,, no way hosay,,,you have want it from the heart,,,not ah hope we win yes.

  44. Nigel you touch on something important , player commitment and discipline. I does sit back and watch men excuse prima donna behavior from players like Jones, that is, whenever it seems to benefit country as was the recent situation with Seattle. Even stuff like the boat ride indiscipline under Hart gets a pass… because “daiz small ting, we need him…” and the we expect them to change their stripes once on the field.

  45. Just saw highlights…that third goal…waaaayyyy!?!?!

    Lawrence should be fired by Thursday right???

  46. 12 year plan to rebuild..piss poor performance…piss poor!

  47. Regardless of what the players have said in their pre-game interviews, they have largely played without conviction and determination. Last night was another in a long line of examples. What they say and what they do are two different things. The way how Joevin trudged off the field last night when substituted was similar to his behavior when he was substituted against Honduras earlier in the Hex. In the latter part of the game, you would swear it was Panama who was behind. This reminds me of our 2002 World Cup Qualifying campaign when we finished first in the semifinal round only to come dead last in the Hex.

    We does still think and play this game too slow. We does still turn over de ball excessively, even without pressure. If I remember correctly, the first and third goals started with us turning over the ball. The defense also doesn’t seem to have and/or keep any particular shape. They love to be in a straight line.

  48. His next squad will be interesting to see who is left out and who he decides to go forward with.

  49. Hmmm maybe this better so. My fear is we qualify and really show we don’t belong, scores of 10,15,20 in WC ? Sad but qualifying is one thing give a real creditable showing at World Cup is another just stating the obvious

  50. The discussion about Lawrence’s merits reminds one about those that followed Bolt’s performances at the last Worlds in London 2017..The matter is raised only when we have lost? Are we ‘meeting’ Lawrence for the first time in this match?

    • Lawrence shouldn’t have been hired in the first place…and WE ALL KNOW THAT! But after Sainfeit, we woulda take anybody.

      We knew from the jump his merits were lacking and his competency was questionable.

  51. The tactics lasted all of 10mins. The backline was too flat with all those centre backs so there was lack of wingback penetration. The switching between Jones and Molino has really gotten old and ineffective. A lot of sleeping on the ball and slow motion play. Individualistic play by Plaza and Jones did not help. Lack of shots on goal throughout all the games. Decision making in the final third was disastrous. The strategy behind the substitutions was baffling. George and Gonzales the tacklers infront the centre back defense and holes were everywhere. I want to see those Mexico and USA games now.

  52. did we really expect this team to get to WC 2018 after a harsh decision by the TTFA president to get rid of Stephen Hart???
    It is left to be seen if the coach is left in the job to develop a style and build for the 2022 WC

  53. Did Dennis Lawrence underperform or was he overhyped? Or was this a reflection of his true capabilities?
    Because the team definitely declined during his tenure.
    I think we played better under Saintfeit and definitely under Hart.