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On 5 February 2016, three days after former Trinidad and Tobago national youth team striker Dwight Quintero hobbled out of a W Connection training session following a rough tackle, he received official news of the damage.
Dr Sergiy Adonin, a specialist orthopaedic surgeon from the Fracture & Orthopaedic Clinic in St Clair, declared that the injury was serious and “likely to need surgery as soon as possible.” He recommended “urgent pre-operative on the right ankle” to determine the extent of the injury and “an orthotic device as soon as possible.”
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“Please help to organise the aforementioned procedures on urgent basis,” stated Adonin.
Quintero’s attorney, Fulton Wilson, forwarded the information to W Connection chairman Renee John-Williams. His aunt, Tamara Fournillier, phoned Connection coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier on several occasions—copies of her phone records were sent to Wired868—without success.
Annoyed, Quintero’s family paid to begin the medical procedures on the Connection employee.
On February 8, the Fracture & Orthopaedic Clinic presented an invoice to “Team Quintero” for the necessary medical procedures, which totalled TT$48,700. This was also forwarded to Connection.
Again, according to Team Quintero, there was no response.
On February 15, Renee responded via email and asked for a second opinion with a doctor of the club’s choice.
“I have been in receipt of the medical reports regarding Dwight Quintero,” stated Renee. “We have made arrangements for him to be assessed by Dr (Terence) Babwah on Thursday at 10.45 am at his clinic.
“Can you advise if this date and time works so that we can move forward with the necessary treatment?”
(Courtesy TTFA Media)
As Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) team doctor and with Renee’s father and ex-Connection chairman, David John-Williams, as TTFA president, Dr Terence Babwah’s role in this matter raises several questions.
Was he paid by Connection? Did he diagnose Quintero for free as a favour to the TTFA president?
Was the cost of the visit meant to be repaid in cash or kind by the local football body?
Wilson agreed to send Quintero to see Dr Babwah but aired his displeasure with Connection’s behaviour.
“You may or may not be aware that this, unfortunately, is the first kind of any communication made by anyone representing the Club with respect to our client’s very serious injury,” Wilson told Renee. “Our client indicated that no one from the Club took him for medical attention immediately after the injury was inflicted and that remains the case up until today, notwithstanding the fact that he is effectively immobile.”
Renee responded that she had discussed the matter with W Connection head coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier and assistant coach Earl Jean, although she got the time of the injury and Quintero’s trip to the hospital wrong. She said she had been on maternity leave.
(Courtesy Nathalie Fournillier-Reyes)
“Earl did copy me on his response to you following receipt of your email however I have been out of office on maternity leave,” said Renee. “(…) Earl said that he did attempt to contact Dwight, however there was no answer.
“We would like for Dwight to have the necessary treatment done as early as possible to so that he can be back on the playing field… We will follow up with him as well as with the Dr after his appointment.”
On February 19, Wilson rebutted Renee’s suggestions.
“Mr Quintero’s aunt, Tamara Fournillier, called Mr Charles-Fervier on many occasions on (February) 3rd to provide him with an update with respect to Mr Quintero’s condition,” said Wilson. “However those calls went unanswered. The Club’s response to my client’s injury to date leaves a lot to be desired. The situation was aggravated by the inaccurate report provided to you by officials of the Club. It is most unfortunate.
“Our client says he received no calls from the officials from the Clubs. If calls were made from any Club official no messages were left.
“Please see the scanned version of the receipt with respect to a MRI taken by Mr Quintero and kindly make arrangement for the reimbursement of same.”
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Renee, according to Wilson, did not respond to the MRI receipt or a follow-up email. Nor did she authorise reimbursement for Quintero’s expenses.
On February 25, Dr Babwah recommended surgery for Quintero.
“Due to the diastasis of the tibia and fibula he should see the orthopaedic surgeon again,” wrote Dr Babwah. “(He) may need a screw to hold bones together.”
Although Connection recommended Dr Babwah, it was Wilson who had to forward his diagnoses to Renee on February 25. Wilson asked for confirmation of receipt of the email but, again, there was no sign of a response.
On February 29, Quintero had a review consultation at the Fracture & Orthopaedic Clinic and was advised to undergo surgery by a third doctor, Dr Derrick Lousaing. He was advised that the Clinic’s foot and ankle surgeon would be in Trinidad from March 4 to 9 and he should operate then.
“It is my view because of his professional career, he requires an arthroscopy and syndesmotic assessment and possible distal tibiofibular joint stabilisation in order to return to sport at the highest level,” said Dr Lousaing. “(…) I have suggested, however, that our foot and ankle surgeon will be here from March 4 to March 19, 2016 and he should be seen by him…
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
“If there is concurrence on the same, then we will proceed with the arthroscopy and syndesmotic stabilisation on Wednesday March 9, 2016.”
Wilson emailed Renee again on the same day and, this time, copied Jean, Fevrier and the TTFA president.
“I am still awaiting an acknowledgment of receipt of my previous emails,” said Wilson. “Attached is the latest medical report concerning my client which is self-explanatory. Kindly let me know whether you are still on maternity leave.
“The Club’s response to my client’s serious injury has been extremely poor.”
On March 1, Renee responded to say the diagnosis was “duly noted” and that she was handing the matter over to her father and the TTFA president, John-Williams.
“Your correspondence has been received and its contents duly noted,” said Renee. “Yes, I am still on maternity leave. Mr David John-Williams will handle this matter going forward.”
It was 28 days after Quintero’s injury and three weeks since the Fracture & Orthopaedic Clinic recommended an “urgent” operation for the footballer.
(Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)
Still, despite the dire warnings of the threat to Quintero’s future career, Connection apparently remain silent.
On March 8, the day before the operation, Wilson emailed John-Williams and urged him, on behalf of Connection, to take responsibility for the pending medical bill. He attached clause eight of Quintero’s contract for ease of reference.
Clause eight of Quintero’s contract with W Connection states: “Any incapacity or sickness shall be reported by the Player to the Club immediately and the Club shall keep a record of any incapacity.
“The Player shall submit promptly to such medical and dental examinations as the Club may reasonably require and shall undergo, at no expense to himself such treatment as may be prescribed by the medical or dental advisers of the Club in order to restore the Player to fitness.
“The Club shall arrange promptly such prescribed treatment and shall ensure that such treatment is undertaken and completed without expense to the player notwithstanding that this Agreement expires after such treatment has been prescribed.”
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)
“Mr Williams, I have taken the liberty to forward this email sent to me by Tamara Fournillier, Mr Quintero’s aunt,” said Wilson. “I have also sent an extract of Mr Quintero’s contract for obvious reasons. The surgery is scheduled for tomorrow.
“Kindly liaise with Dr Lousaing with respect to payment for the cost of the surgery as a matter of urgency. Thank you.”
The TTFA president responded via email just once and it was a knife to the heart of the player and his family.
“Dear Sir, unless we have a discussion about this matter we cannot accept responsibility for paying the proposed bill,” John-Williams told Quintero’s attorney. “There are a lot of grey areas to be clarify. I am prepared to meet as early as tomorrow to sort out the grey areas.”
Wilson said he could not meet on March 9, due to court appointments. Since then, he claimed to have tried unsuccessfully to get the TTFA president to explain what grey areas he referenced as a reason not to take care of the Connection player.
On more than one occasion, the two parties could not agree on a mutually acceptable time and place.
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The last email from the club, shown to Wired868, was on March 14. Once more, Renee advised Quintero’s attorney that her father would represent Connection.
“Mr Wilson, Mr John-Williams is available to meet with you any time after 4 pm once your schedule permits,” stated Renee. “Kindly advise.”
Wilson replied that he was unavailable and unwilling to meet anywhere but in Port of Spain. And the communication trail went cold.
“The injury was sustained when he was working for W Connection,” said Wilson, “and the clause said ‘we will take care of all medical cases’. There is no question in my mind that they have breached their contract with the player…
“What are the grey areas when a player sustains an injury while with the club and needs medical attention? They are throwing red herrings.
“A player is injured, he needs treatment, it is your responsibility, sort him out! It is a very straightforward issue.”
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
John-Williams declined comment when asked why Connection was not footing Quintero’s medical bills and why he, as TTFA president, was representing the club on the matter.
Wilson sees no way but litigation for the matter now while Quintero’s family try to raise funds to get him the operation that should salvage his career.
Connection have paid Quintero’s salary in the interim. And, should the player recover from injury, he would be obliged to rejoin the club.
If Quintero tries to use their supposed breach of contract to free himself from the “Savonetta Boys”, his case would be heard by the Pro League and, potentially, the TTFA. John-Williams wields significant influence in both organisations while he also used the TTFA’s vote to ingratiate himself to the new FIFA president, Gianni Infantino.
“It is sadly disappointing that someone who is responsible for the running of Trinidad and Tobago football and the well-being of the country’s players,” said Quintero’s aunt, Nathalie Fournillier-Reyes, “can treat someone like this.”
(Courtesy TTFA Media)
Quintero, according to Fournillier-Reyes, was born to play football.
On 20 January 1994, she held her newborn nephew for the first time and named him after her then friend and Trinidad and Tobago football icon Dwight Yorke, who was an Aston Villa player at the time.
“(Quintero) was my mother’s first grandchild and, when I held him for the first time in the Port of Spain hospital, he literally dribbled a lot,” said Nathalie Fournillier-Reyes. “I used that figuratively to say he would be a great football player. I was a good friend of Dwight at the time and I named him after (Yorke).
“From the time (Quintero) started walking, he was always obsessed with football.”
Quintero’s favourite player as a boy was Russell Latapy. But he became a striker like his namesake.
“From as long as I could remember, I wanted to be a professional player,” said Quintero. “From since I was in Blanchisseuse Primary School.”
Quintero went to El Dorado East Secondary in 2006, just months after Yorke captained the Soca Warriors at the Germany World Cup. And, at just 12 years old, he chose his path.
(Copyright AFP 2014/Patrik Stollarz)
His parents lived in Blanchisseuse and he would not be able to attend training or play games for the school team and still be able to get transport home. So, for every year during the football season, he moved in with aunt Tamara at her rented home in Arouca.
“It was either that or I didn’t play football,” said Quintero. “Transportation from Blanchisseuse was hard and it wouldn’t have worked out if I had stayed in Blanchisseuse.”
Remarkably, he broke into the El Dorado first team, which was essentially an under-20 outfit, at just 12 years old and while still a form one student. He played alongside future 2009 World Cup forward Jamal Gay in his maiden SSFL season.
By 15, Quintero was selected on the Trinidad and Tobago National Under-17 Team while, three years later, he advanced to the National Under-20 Team.
At 19 years old, he was considered such a hot commodity that Trinidad and Tobago’s record goal scorer, Stern John, offered to help him agree terms as Central successfully convinced him to sign his first professional contract.
(Courtesy Central FC)
Now, three years later, he is already trying save his career.
“This injury and the way everything is happening is my worst experience ever as a footballer,” Quintero told Wired868. “The clubs here always talk about players being professional. But when it is time for them to be professional…”
Fournillier-Reyes said Quintero’s family are extremely frustrated and disappointed.
“It is a serious injury being treated like a prick on the finger,” she said. “Mr John-Williams has not pursued it or made no arrangements whatsoever, even if he said he didn’t want to pay to do it at the clinic but could arrange for it to be done at the public hospital.
“The situation has not been addressed as a matter of urgency at all. It is almost as if they think they can just stay quiet and the whole thing will go away.”
At 9.24 am on Thursday March 24, roughly five hours after Wired868 revealed details of the conflict in Part One, Renee—rather than her father and the TTFA president—contacted Wilson via email.
And Team Quintero was shocked to hear that W Connection was suddenly pushing to have the player treated at a private institution. There was no mention of the “grey areas” that John-Williams referenced three weeks ago.
“Mr Wilson, the club has been working to have Dwight’s surgery scheduled with Orthopedic Surgeon Dr David Santana,” stated Renee, “who is available at 9 am next Tuesday 29th March at his clinic in St. Augustine—141 Eastern Main Road—Caribbean Body Sculpture Ltd.
“Dwight is required to fast from midnight. Dr Santana’s number is 6xx-xxxx and has requested to meet with Dwight this evening at 6 pm with his X-rays. Kindly confirm if Dwight will be attending.”
The email caused a desperate scramble by Quintero and his representatives. From his Blanchisseuse home, unable to walk unaided and without a vehicle, the Connection player had to find a taxi that would take him to St Augustine, wait and carry him back home.
The only driver willing to take the job offered him a price of TT$500.
Wilson advised his client not to pay just yet until he could confirm with Dr Santana. But it was an exercise in futility for the attorney while Quintero and his driver remained on standby in Blanchisseuse.
At 3.58 pm, Wilson emailed Renee again.
“I have attempted to contact the doctor on several occasions to see whether he can see Mr Quintero at a later time today,” stated Wilson. “(Your) email to me with respect to the arrangements was late. He is in Blanchisseuse and has to make arrangements for transport.
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“I have advised (him) not to make the trip until the doctor contacts me. I left a voicemail message with the doctor and I am awaiting word from him.”
Renee responded at 5.02 pm.
“Mr Wilson, my email was sent at 9.12 am advising of the arrangements made with the Doctor,” said the Connection official. “I would hardly consider that late. It is now 5 pm.
“I do hope that Dwight keeps his appointment, keeping in mind that this is a long weekend.”
Wilson retorted at 5.23 pm:
“I am aware of when the email was sent. Mr Quintero lives in Blanchisseuse. He has to arrange transport. I have indicated to you that I have attempted to contact the doctor to no avail. I left a message on his phone…
“I cannot assume the doctor will be at the institution at the time Mr Quintero gets there. We don’t want to waste time bearing in mind that he is injured, is coming from Blanchisseuse and has been in pain since the injury occurred weeks ago. .
(Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)
“You really ought to take the initiative and call the doctor as I cannot get through to him and confirm that he is at the institution and is still prepared to see Mr Quintero (who) has to use the aid of crutches to move around. I await word from you.”
As it turned out, Dr Santana was not available.
“I did attempt to contact the doctor when you mentioned difficulties in getting on to him and experienced the same,” said Renee, at 5.44 pm. “I have just been able to speak with him and he has advised that, on review of the MRI report, he would prefer to see Dwight on Tuesday morning for a proper assessment along with the MRI film at 10 am.
“He will not be available later this evening due to works being done on his office.”
Renee declined the opportunity to comment on the timeline for Quintero’s treatment and W Connection’s conduct in the affair.
“I will not comment on this matter,” said Renee.
And there the story ends for now.
With any luck, Quintero will finally have his operation sometime before the end of March. At the time of publication, it is 52 days since the former Trinidad and Tobago National Under-20 striker was injured at a W Connection training session on 2 February 2016.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
And it is 49 days since Dr Adonin, a specialist orthopaedic surgeon from the Fracture & Orthopaedic Clinic in St Clair, advised that the former El Dorado East Secondary student had suffered “severe ligamentous injury to the right ankle.” and needed surgery “as soon as possible.”
Editor’s Note: Click HERE to read Part One as TTFA president David John-Williams is fingered in looming legal dispute with W Connection striker Dwight Quintero and accused of conflict of interest and risking career of ex-national youth player.
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So what are the grey areas DJW was talking about?
You know who to ask…
My word, I finally got the chance to read this article and most of the comments in its entirety and all I can say is Wow. From the response of this DJW and his daughter and the whole time line of this madness is just seriously disgraceful and mind boggling to me … All yuh good yes :/
When I do the right thing in the beginning.I will never be called upon to justify the end
Jean you are coming in very short here in the defence of the indefensible…you should just stop
No more no more…this club has not done right to one of its very own
This is worse than when they call you for an urgent meeting that could have been round robin over the phone.
Wow! Where is the professionalism of this club? Maternity or not everyone has easy access to emails now, so many grey areas in Connections’s behaviour
if i can help in anyhow i’m here
Let me repeat. Date of Dwight’s injury: February 2.
Date of diagnosis for URGENT surgery: February 5.
Date of club’s own doctor’s second opinion: February 25.
Today’s date: March 26.
Still no operation.
So who is at fault?
Earl, it seems like you don’t appreciate the word “urgent.” W Connection effectively overruled the doctors. Because I can’t see your action suggests any urgency.
Let’s wait until Tuesday to see what the outcome of his visit to Dr Lousang is. The candle might cost more than the funeral now
Legal counsel is the right of any player lasana…I did have mine to in my days in England…dont play that game…
Norris u should know better than that…the player will have his surgery …
Earl this is not about whether he would get surgery or not. I just want to ensure that if he requires any assistance, help is here.
Ooh ok norris..
He will whatever we have to do will be done .
Fulton Wilson, Dwight Quintero might be the only Pro League player I’ve ever heard of who has his own legal counsel. And thank God for that.
Earl Jean has said that people are “making a buck” off Quintero and causing trouble for him.
Would you like to take a go at that one?
Dwight Quintero can’t afford to pay me and he has not paid me a cent. I have known his aunt for years and I don’t like injustice
Thanks Fulton.
Lasana as soon as an account is set up let me know. I would like to contribute as well.
Deceased Roderick Warner was the coach and I honestly don’t remember who was the manager of that squad. Thinking Scipio Rodriquez, but that might have been U16s.
Yuh lying ? ? ?
Wow – unbelievable. Unbelievable. The president of the TTFA continues to disappointment me. I was one of many who thought he would be the ideal man for the job, but recent activities have caused me to have a total rethink. I’m beginning to understand that he’s no different to JW. There’s a total leadership void in Tnt. Only smart men out there. Lots of men with fork tongues. Lasana Liburd let me know if the family is doing any kind of fundraising activities to cover Dwight’s surgery. I honestly think they should say f u to W Connection and schedule Dwight’s surgery. I will happily help with the cost and I’m sure others within the group would as well. Smfh
What a great question! I would help too! Maybe they should do a goFundMe account. I’m sure other players would pitch in.
Sort of reminded me how the TTFA treated you when you broke your foot that day in Aranguez savannah Carlos Lee
Absolutely. This surgery should have been urgently scheduled. The player’s career – his livelihood is at stake. Unbelievable they have waited this long to make such an obvious decision.
Out of sight, out of mind. Hence the reason I say we have a semi-pro league… Very unfortunate for the kid
Yes Brent. I’ve never forgotten that bro. That’s why I’m willing to help Dwight get his surgery done ASAP. This is madness. His employers have been intentionally dragging their feet. It’s as though they’re intentionally trying to kill the kids career.
You were fortunate because that could have derailed whatever opportunity was to come. Fortunately you persevered and hopefully the same can happen to Dwight regardless of the circumstances
Well said.
Carlos, I’m sure we could raise that money – let me know and I will happily make a contribution…I can relate to what this kid is going through myself ?
I hear you Tony. Hopefully Lasana Liburd will update us accordingly.
For sure guys. I didn’t know you went through this too Carlos. I do remember Tony’s case. Sad. Imagine our last two football presidents were insurance men. Yet we can never seem to have our players insured.
Tim Kee was at Guardian Life and Oliver Camps was Maritime.
Lasana I went from the National Stadium to the General Hospital in the back of a supporter’s station wagon….no ambulance, no players’ insurance…it’s a scary thing what this kid may experiencing so we need to do whatever is necessary.
I’ll let Carlos Lee tell the story Lasana Liburd…. but I’ll put it this way, my parents had to take him home with a broken foot….
Yup. 1986 – just a few weeks before the Concacaf U19 Championships in TnT. Coaches and management left me at the Aranguez Savannah with a broken ankle – unable to walk. If it wasn’t for Brent Bennett’s dad I would not have been able to get to my home in Valencia.
wow…..smh!!
Par for the course in trini… I remember it like it was yesterday Carlos Lee….
Absolutely outrageous in 1986! And 30 years later…
If people only know the kind of stuff that has been going on for years whether it be injuries, team selection, abuse etc… people will be in tatters
Wow. That was crazy and disgusting Anthony and Carlos. Who were the national team managers?!
Will luv to know.
You know the club will do the right thing…because he did get injured in training and he is our player. ..but wont say more now…Some people are to dishonest. ..leave it that…smh ..
Thanks for responding Earl. But when tho? Isn’t time of the essence with the type of injury? I’m sure Dwight is frustrated being immobile.
It is alana..rest assured…
Earl… Don’t be like those pnm and unc minions who blindly support eh…
You can’t claim dishonesty by others and ignore the dishonesty by DJW. The man did not mince words to say he would not be involved in w connection business if he became TTFA president. And he is directly involved. In how much business, we don’t know. But we know he is involved in some. It is not that his advice is being sought or that he is being consulted, he is communicating on behalf of the club. In his capacity as what??
So don’t throw stones at other people’s houses as if yours isn’t deserving of any.
(And I am yet to see proof of dishonesty from anybody else involved in this matter eh…)
Earl, nobody from W Connection is speaking now. But we can read the emails and see the exchanges for ourselves eh. So I’d love to know who is being dishonest in this affair.
Earl, he sustained this injury in early Feb, we are almost in April…
Sure taking their sweet time to do the right thing.
Lasana…like I said dont wantbto say much for now but its really sad when you or anyone tries to question the integrity of dr Terrance Badwah a dr who has work tirelessly for all clubs and players in the country. ..I know we have been paying one of the best of not the best in the country to take care of our players and staff and just by john Williams being President of TTFA all that should stop is unbelievable. ..like I said before you have your job to do and we have our players that we have to deal with and we try to do it the best way possible with protocol …yes all will not always go well but the loyalty to our players and dedication will always be paramount because they are our assets….but to imply such on a Dr. Of babwah is not right…yes iam disappointed. …because he works for all clubs and iam sure clubs pay their bill on time or late because some do have difficulties at time but …..woow..
Earl.you didnt address the fact that its taking two months to sort out a career-threatening injury
Savi …just don’t want to go into all that because sometimes it seems ridiculous what I would have to explain. …really because everything has protocol and if people didnt have other agendas then they would have gotten back to me and alot would have been accomplished. ..because like I said its always about the player !! The player is most important but for what i know…someone or persons wanted to accomplish something hope they did….but the play be taken care of….but when people feel they are doing themselves a favor whether selfishly or not…its always the player that falls behind and lets hope its a learning process for us all but dwight will be looked after because he is our asset he is on our books…wish people were genuinely helpful to players and not just using them to make a buck. …I know our former ceo did everything possible to help players wether ours ot of other clubs because of his good heart. …things that wasnt supposed to be done even for surgeries for players that are not ours….much to be said but go with God djw will always have that respect for you and others whether at the club or not….you have been pumping milllions into something for our young footballers and that has always been outstanding to me .I know you have been struggling to make a profit to countinue but your passion and luv is important. ..its a fight till the end …continue your work…
Earl, tbh, I’m not talking personalities here but this particular sensitive case. This young man has been injured since the beginning of Feb and to date, from the back and forth convos, he should’ve had an xray done, if not the same night, definitely the next day. It really doesn’t matter to me who does what for whom, this whole situation should’ve been avoided. He is healing, the bones are prob not aligned properly, he’s on WC’s books yes, but is now unable to play for a long time and this obviously will affect his form.
Chabeth…iam by no means a fanatic…please believe me ..
We may have the same philosophy but when I stand for something dont care who u are its easy to pick up and leave its never have to do anything. …I stand with players because I was on the other side myself but I give clubs and presidents advice because of my experience genuinely. ..but I know david of the years and yes mistakes will happen but his commitment to players are nxt to non..haven’t seen that joy and emotion when comes to helping people…so I just say and speak my mind and some will have different interactions with him and may see different I understand stand but the man has the football at heart. ..when I see things I will always coment and he knows that
Ok, Earl. But you haven’t addressed the fact that he said he wouldn’t be involved in w connection business and he is.
That isn’t just a mistake. It was an issue that he directly addressed in no uncertain terms.
But let’s just hope that this situation is resolved very quickly and in the way that it should be.
And I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you when you say you’re not a fanatic. ?
Earl, I didn’t question Dr Babwah’s ethics at all. So you must not have interpreted it properly.
What I questioned is the awkward position he might be in when the TTFA president asks him to look at a player from his club. So are you saying that all your club’s bills are up to date? That is great if so and will alleviate that particular worry somewhat.
So are all W Connection’s bills up to date Earl?
And was Quintero selfish to go to the hospital by himself rather than wait for the club to take him the following day when he was in excruciating pain and three different doctors all made the same diagnosis?
So Earl Jean, you are saying W Connection cares so much about its players and left an employee in agonising pain with an ice pack.
And then you are calling him selfish for getting himself to the hospital?
This is extraordinary. The issue remains that Dr Babwah said Dwight Quintero needed surgery about a month ago. And yet the club still hasn’t arranged it.
After the session he said his aunt works at the hospital so he will let them take an XRAY. ..guess palyer being player you want your people to check for comfort. ..his aunt and myself had a conversation so iam still waiting for the response. …how can dwight be selfish??? Thats all I will say on that.
You were the one who spoke of selfish people. Would have been nice if the CLUB had taken him to to the hospital and not left the player to find his own way there.
And you are still waiting on the response from Dwight’s aunt, Earl?
Good thing the boy is a W Connection employee and not a Wired868 employee. Because I was able to find out.
Nothing personal Earl. But I like things done the right way. And I don’t see that here.
Lasana now u starting the investigation. …lol..coach did tell dwight that we would send him for and X ray. ..dwight said his aunt works at the hospital and he will let her check it for him.we told him that our equipment manager would take him home he said that his cousin will come to take him from chaguanas…we took him to meet the cousin in chaguanas …because it was late in the evening…then aunt called me the following day or after to be certain. ..spoke to me about taking him to do the xay and I said not a problem but because of protocol I would need a letter to send to the office just to state the seriousness and he cant train for records and he would have to also see out dr to give a second opinion just protocol everyone at the club knows this…she said no problem that will be done and the rest is history. …never got back to me…and I have said as honest as it happened. ..the player is our player so why all this…why the undermining???? Tried to call Dwight never ever answer his phone …I have spoken to his lawyer few times on certain situations I wont go through here and even to dwight…lets try to sort the player injury out …thats all….
All this talk and the poor guy still suffering. According to Uncle Earl Mango Pierre allyuh good yes! Earl Jean quit trying to justify Connection behavior bottom line the club failed on its responsibility. I would gladly donate to Dwight surgery cost when the fundraiser is set up. Lasana their are some men here who would willing be a part of it so do keep us informed.
At the end of the day if the club had handled this situation immediately, Lasana Liburd wouldn’t have a story to write. The club doesn’t look good here.
Let me tell you where I think your story falls apart Earl. Right here: On February 25, Dr Babwah recommended surgery for Quintero.
That is the club’s Doctor there Earl. February 25. It is March 26.
So you still say it is the player who breached protocol and not W Connection?
If the club had taken Dwight to get his ankle checked as soon as he said he was feeling excruciating pain, there would have been no need for his aunt to get involved.
I’m sure Dwight’s family would have loved to know that Connection is such a well run club that all they have to do is support their relative and leave the club to take care of him.
Lasana..you ask me a question and like I said maybe if u had called earlier you would have put all the pieces together. ..u ask I told you …from the day or date of injury …to when I spoke to his aunt…and since then I havent been involved in it again because like I said if from the day of injury to the following day with my communication with his aunt then I would have received information from her on the xray and then I would have be able to follow up …but how do u follow up when you are trying to sort out something u speak to someone they dont return a call to you then you receive a letter from a lawyer maybe a week or so later…smh really. ..
Is that why club took so long to help? Because of the lawyer’s letter?
By February 25, W Connection had all they needed from what I could see.
They knew a W Connection player was injured in a W Connection training session and the W Connection approved doctor said he needed surgery.
So why is it March 26 and that hasn’t happened yet?
Lasana we trained after the injury in the morning dwight stayed in camp with the team the physio wasnt at the morning session…Dwight had lunch he ice the injury …we were still monitoring to see how bad and awaiting the physio’s return in the evening session. ..what can u do after first injury. ..ice and stop the swelling. ..afternoon he came across iced some more with the physio and then we were trying to sort out what would be done…..I think or I wish all clubs had the ability to pay and keep medical staff on every session every day so you would realize its not possible to have a doctor at every session…resources are limited with all clubs and iam still sure we may have the best facilities for professionals at our institution. ..thanks to djw monies and the family. …so yes things could have been much better by having a doctor at venue and having facilities to scan and X ray players but yes its not all sunshine with the availability of medics, physios, money and all in this current climate so we may falter at times but not with what persons are implying that we are not looking after our players interest. ….from what iam seeing iam seeing an agenda by some to take djw down that road of not caring or conflicts just like politics people have they agenda…just my thoughts because you’ll are painting a picture that the club doesnt not seek the players interest. ..then I ask..why do we pay players?why do we feed players? Why do we bring in people to speak to them to educate them…why?djw build facilities for them to stay if they need a rest or they have problems at home in their environment to give them the conditions to achieve?? So how and why wouldn’t want dwight to be back playing at his best…just aking why???? Or is there something else at play ,what is all this about…we at the club with all the tough financial problems at the moment we are the ones that have the job to resolve things in the best way possible. ..its not easy but we know our responsibilities and we take it quite seriously…the co owner Patrick john williams, renew John williams head coach stuart charles my self and all staff members. ..its not an easy job but we do with conviction and pride. …its our game …football is our life and our game..
Earl I understand, when you speak about limited resources. But at least the player could have been taken to a public institution.
If you know the club doesn’t have optimum resources to treat every injury appropriately, then how can you in good conscience blame the player for not following protocol and waiting for your physio?
Why do you feed players? I don’t understand that question.
Why does any employer do anything for employees? Not as a favour. A good work environment means you can get the most of your employee.
It is not like you are handing out hampers in a welfare institution.
And what agenda to make DJW look like he doesn’t care?
Should I not write the because I’m afraid it might make DJW look bad?
Connection have gotten good reports when they deserved it right here.
Do you think deserved kudos here Earl?
You still haven’t explained why the Connection doctor said Dwight needed an operation on February 25 and we are on March 26 now.
And yet…
Jevon all that could ve been done …it seems crazy to me to at times…wish I could explaunsl2 how things went like I to articulate. A few times was just trying to clear some things up ….it should have been down one.way or the other and earlier because thats what we wanted…and u always want because Dwight needs to be back out thats his work and what he loves and enjoys….not saying its the right scenario or everything has been handle the right way but I just felt personally from my involvement from training and a day or two after. …persons could have been more upfront and honest to me and in allowing legal persons to write and do all this for no reason …iam just amazed. ..I have played the game and dealt with agent to lawyer to administrator of all sorts and all u want is a speedy way to get back from injury and I just cannot understand why….no one came back to me after my discussions and why a lawyer letter saying he is disappointed. ..when I was in contact after day one or two with his relative who was handling certain things for him…just dont understand. ..and now its on this blog…which I respect but disappointed in for the way things were put across without a phone call to me…and lasana knows iam always available and also Stuarty whenever there are problems…
Earl, nobody is trying to paint any picture one way or the other.
The news media’s job is to write accurate stories and let the chips fall where they may and the public’s job is to ask whatever questions may arise from the stories. If the story can stand up to scrutiny then it can, if it can’t, then it can’t.
All this explaining that you are doing now should have been done before the story was published. Don’t have to know Lasana personally to be 100% sure that he sought comment from somebody at w connection before publishing the story.
The refusal of w connection to comment when asked is very telling especially because she knows damn well how to talk to wired868 when he wants to. He was all over here when he wanted a platform to make his push for the TTFA presidency.
Lasana Liburd..
Blame the player for what???? I blame and I alone earl jean put this on the persons who got in touch me and ahould have been honest with me…thats how iam
Earl, you have authority to issue official statements on behalf of w connection? Just asking…
I write base on fact that I always say…if I comment its because I dealt with certain issues but I will not comment on things above me
What was the date of the first lawyer’s letter or communication?
Earl, I asked David John Williams for comment before the first article as It spoke to his involvement.
I contacted Renee John Williams before the second which dealt more specifically with correspondence between the parties.
I didn’t see the need to specifically involve you as assistant coach Earl.
But when you started commenting on it, I did ask questions before Part Two. And you didn’t respond.
The article gives several emails from Connection. So your side is there too to some extent.
Earl, I really feel you trying to take a bullet that isn’t yours to take eh. A lot of us sense that Hart did it in the Bostock situation. Ppl must be careful who they willing to bleed for eh…
Chabeth….I have what he sent me and if I have to I will put it out all I am saying is from what lasana reported and the info I had and I know lasana very well if he wanted info he would have called or ask someone to call. ..have nothing against him and thats why iam always take a call at any time from.lasana…all open to him..
Iam in this amd ill always give my honest opinion on situations…because its always about the players and the game..
Not about administrators and staff…we are all here to serve. .
Ok. And what he sent you came on what date? I’m not asking you to put anything out. Just wondering what date you got first communication from the lawyer.
Lasana but I understand you said that but then u should have called renee or coach we deal with the day to day business of the club…didnt you say he is the president of the ttfa….he wouldn’t have been prevy to some that happen and the trail unless he got it from us….
No problem Earl. I guarantee you that I did call club officials. There is only thing you were qualified to speak on to me Earl. And that was whether he was injured at the club session.
But that was uncontested as there is a Connection letter that confirmed Dwight’s story. So all that needed to be answered by Connection was further up the food chain.
Only one of the John-Williams can say why they didn’t authorise the payment for the operation.
That is why I did not call you or Stuart Charles-Fevrier.
Thank you Lasana. ..
Chabeth…whats there to bleed for…its an injury to our player and the communication was poor from my stand point because I was involved. .I know why I say that because in certain situations it happens differently. ..like I said ill say my bit honestly. .. but when there are situations people can get on to you at every hour but when it suits they do things in writing. ..we all learn by our mistakes. ..the football is round and so is the information around it…and we are here to help and everything has a cycle…I dont believe in cheating or doing anything wrong to any player whether its on my team or another. ..but everyone involves in football will meet and deal in situations over and over…its the cycle small ferternity. ..but people need to be honest…
Who is being dishonest Earl?
Earl, I’m just trying to find out what date you got the first communication from Dwight’s lawyer. Is that information you are willing to share?
Wanted to put who lasana …but persons communicate and they will know what I mean…but wasn’t at you
I am sure they all do read the blogs. ..
Will give u more info on that …emails are out dont want to go much into this…really exhausted. .on this one…
Good grief! Renee has made it clear her father is still involved in club business. When was the last time that football had a president who didn’t have a forked tongue?
Will it be the same nonsense if a national team player gets injured?
Same thing I was thinking but it won’t be the same. It won’t be his money being used then.
i wish we knew the details of the agreement struck with the men’s team on December to have an idea of how generous he is when it isn’t his money.
True
Earl Jean allyuh do the right thing nah man. One cannot dispute the fact that Dwight isn’t injured. You all cannot dispute the fact that he didn’t get injured in training! You all cannot dispute the fact that he doesn’t need surgery because the club doctor said he needs it. None at the club would like what this young man is going through to happen to them or their families. Renee John-Williams as a mother do the right thing! David John-williams as a father do the right thing. We all know you done still in Connection business do the right thing nah man.
We watching yuh David John Williams ….we watching yuh well ……
Given what I know of local athletes’ injury woes in this country, The lethargic and almost anal response by W Connection in this matter is unfortunately not unexpected. Furthermore, TTFA President David John-Williams seems to be incapable of divorcing himself from the club he founded despite his assurances that this would not happen under his tenure. This is a severe conflict of interest that is exacerbated by Dr Babwah’s introduction and involvement in the scenario And even his diagnosis should have spurred the club into action but, sadly, Dwight is still suffering nearly two full months after the injury occurred.
Quintero is extremely lucky to have astute legal counsel guiding his way forward – something that most athletes in his position lack. W Connection, please honour your contractual obligations speedily and in full for an on-the-job injury! Especially as Dwight’s career could be severely affected by your adverse actions.
We’re seeing their true colours now and likenyou said Lasana, looks like a blatant conflict.of interest here
Oh yes! I’m so happy it’s coming to light.
Me too…wonder what Earl Jean has to say
Their actions are unjustifiable.
From pillar to post…hope he is able to heal properly.
I hope that all goes well and that he gets proper treatment because its a serious injury. To much time has been lost. Mr wired if it wasnt for you many situations like this would have been swept under carpet. I know dwight for many years and great talent and nice person. #getwellsoon
Thanks. And definitely hope the boy is able to move on without any physical difficulty after this.
Very true. What many people dont know is when someone gets a injury like that and its not treated on time, the bone starts to heal bad which makes it more difficult for doctor to treat.
Yeah. I understand sometimes the doctor might even need to break the bone again. Crazy.
Yup Jamal Douglas!
from pot to fire
lolollol
“Handing the matter over to my father”? That baffles me. Isn’t she the chairperson? Can’t she make administrative decisions on her own? Especially one of that serious nature seeing that a person wellbeing is involved? Is she a part time chairperson? While on maternity leave didn’t they put someone else in charge to carry on the business of the club? Why is her father still in Connection business? Doesn’t he have to deal with TTFA business? Tim Kee had the bar so low that TTFA voters thought John-Williams was the real deal. Sorry to say but that’s some shady business on the management of Connection part. They put up this persona as they are such a great professional club and this is the behavior that their displaying? Shame on them! Shame on Direct TV W Connection! I’d sue them if that was me. Enough of the back and forth emails because clearly they don’t give a damn. Again Senior Williams should step down from his TTFA post because clearly he’s not good enough for that position. Really hoping the guy gets the urgent care he needs.
That is the bit that nobody has really spoken about openly yet. Is David John-Williams bringing the office of the TTFA president into disrepute by his behaviour here?
I think it is a clear conflict of interest.
Of course it is Lasana! I just want him to do the right thing for the young man and in the fullness of time the other issues can be sorted out. But while they are avoiding the real issue which is Dwight’s surgery the guy condition is getting worst. I’ve always known he could never let go of that club. Everything has to go through him. At a single man can make a decision on their own without involving and getting his approval.
Praying kid gets the surgery soon and that his football future isn’t irreparably damaged.
Yes. That is the only priority now. Afterwards, we will see what the residual effect of this standoff with Connection is.
But I don’t see how he could be blamed for being injured in a W Connection training session.
I’m still waiting for a Connection official to explain how this is Quintero’s fault.
I could be wrong but there seems to be contention that he moved ahead privately with medical care but the kid has to consider his future as his first priority, particularly, since the team was relatively slow in responding to his “urgent” situation.
Remember almost a month ago, the club had kid go to doctor of their choosing. They got same diagnosis but still refused to act.
Yep.. urgent has very different connotations to each side it seems