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Downer: Sancho used local courts—so why not Wallace? And Look Loy was not removed

Trinidad and Tobago Football Referees Association (TTFRA) vice-president Osmond Downer, one of the framers of the TTFA’s constitution, has defended president William Wallace’s decision to legally challenge Fifa’s attempt to remove him, based on his perception of natural justice and the governing body’s own statutes.

The TTFA Constitution—article 38.2-2—and FIFA’s standard statutes reflect each other verbatim on the procedure necessary to remove a member:

  • “The motion for dismissal must be justified. It will be sent to the members of the Board of Directors and/or to the members along with the agenda. The person or body in question has the right to defend him or herself…”
Photo: (From left) TTFA vice-president Susan Joseph-Warrick, president William Wallace, general secretary Ramesh Ramdhan and press manager Shaun Fuentes.

Downer, a former Fifa match referee, said Wallace has a moral right to defend his position.

“The decision to remove him without allowing him to state his case, violates natural justice in all courts of law,” Downer told Wired868. “For somebody to be punished—and the removal via a normalisation committee is a punishment—they should be given a chance to state their case. And the same thing is in Fifa statutes regarding the dismissal of a member association.”

Thus far, the Fifa Bureau of the Council, which is headed by president Gianni Infantino, has not only declined the opportunity to give Wallace his say but also refused to justify its decision.

The Bureau claimed its decision to remove the board of the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) was based on a ‘recent FIFA/Concacaf fact-finding mission to Trinidad and Tobago’; but did not publish the report or share it with the local body.

And Wallace and his officers—as well as finance committee chair Kendall Tull—said members of the mission, which comprised of Fifa finance coordinator Mehmet Dirlik, Concacaf finance manager Alejandro Kesende, Concacaf finance department member Dally Fuentes and independent auditor Valeria Yepes, gave the opposite impression to local administrators.

Downer suggested that the Bureau’s actions not only violated the principle of natural justice but also seemed at odds with several articles of Fifa’s own statutes, including article 45:

Photo: Fifa president Gianni Infantino.
(via Fifa)
  • ‘The Member Associations Committee shall deal with relations between FIFA and its member associations as well as the member associations’ compliance with the FIFA Statutes and draw up proposals for optimum cooperation. The committee shall also monitor the evolution of the Statutes and regulations of Fifa, the confederations and member associations.’

Downer felt the Bureau’s stated concerns regarding the TTFA, sounded tailor-made for Fifa’s Members Association Committee.

“I would just wonder why Fifa would not use this article,” said Downer. “There must be good reason for having this article there to settle things as now befalls the TTFA, instead of having recourse to normalisation committees with all its implications. It is in their statutes.

“Why did they set up this committee, just to be disregarded? It states clearly the Members Associations Committee shall deal with relations between Fifa and its member associations…

“Fifa could easily have sent their members of this committee to Trinidad to sit down with the elected officers to see how best the matters could be resolved, instead of resorting to this heavy-handed normalisation committee approach.”

Downer scoffed at arguments put forward by Pro League interim chairman Brent Sancho and former technical director Anton Corneal that Wallace’s decision to take up the matter in the High Court was putting the local game in harm’s way.

Photo: Former Sport Minister and Pro League interim chairman Brent Sancho.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Article 59.1-2 of the Fifa Statutes states:

  • “The confederations, member associations and leagues shall agree to recognise CAS as an independent judicial authority and to ensure that their members, affiliated players and officials comply with the decisions passed by CAS. The same obligation shall apply to intermediaries and licensed match agents.
  • “Recourse to ordinary courts of law is prohibited unless specifically provided for in the FIFA regulations. Recourse to ordinary courts of law for all types of provisional measures is also prohibited.”

Yet, Sancho himself took the local football body to court for 2006 World Cup bonus fees, despite warnings of a Fifa ban by then Fifa vice-president Jack Warner. Corneal also prevailed against the TTFA in the High Court.

So too have past and present employees like Kendall Walkes, Stephen Hart, Ramesh Ramdhan and Sheldon Phillips. Look Loy also used the High Court, two years ago, to have former TTFA president David John-Williams provide transparency for the controversial Fifa-funded Home of Football project.

“In my wide experience, I don’t know that a body has ever being expelled solely for going to court—there is usually more to the debate than that,” said Downer. “There have been cases of persons using the court, including locally. The same Sancho went to the High court. The TTFA could have expelled him, because the TTFA has the same thing in its constitution as Fifa.

“How can you be thrown out merely for going to a local court for justice?”

Downer insisted that, morality aside, the current impasse hinges on a fine legal point. So the current forum for the debate was inevitable.

Photo: Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley (centre) is flanked by FIFA president Gianni Infantino (right) and TTFA president David John-Williams during the opening of the TTFA Home of Football in Couva on 18 November 2019.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA-Images/Wired868)

“Every member’s constitution is approved by Fifa and one of the main things is they must not be anything in the member’s constitution that conflicts with any of Fifa’s statutes,” said Downer. “The TTFA constitution gives the right to suspend or dismiss officers only to the general meeting of the TTFA. And that is not only in the TTFA constitution—it is also in the Fifa standard statutes, verbatim.

“I am sorry it didn’t go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport but perhaps the local court will make a determination because it is a legal point. Fifa approved the TTFA’s constitution in 2015 and the very TTFA constitution is very clear in article 38.

“[…] In other words the move made by Fifa abridges the constitution of the TTFA itself; and this requires legal interpretation. I would have been glad to see CAS settle that point but if not, I will be glad to see a legal mind settle it in the local court.”

Downer confirmed that normalisation committee chairman Robert Hadad has not contacted the referees’ association as yet and said he was unimpressed with the work of the Fifa-appointed body so far.

“At this moment, football is at a dead-still—not even a standstill,” he said. “We know there is Covid but why can’t you be planning still? The referees association had a council meeting just [yesterday] online.”

Photo: Businessman Robert Hadad was appointed by Fifa as head of a normalisation committee in Trinidad and Tobago.

He scoffed at suggestions that Hadad, with Fifa’s permission, would single-handedly bend local football and its constitution to the will of the governing body.

“The TTFA Constitution was approved by Fifa and is almost word for the word the same as the Fifa standard statutes,” said Downer. “But in any case, anything Hadad proposes must be decided upon by the TTFA Congress. It must be remembered that the normalisation committee has a very narrow mandate—only the executive [of the TTFA] has been replaced.

“I was asked the question about the general secretary, which is not part of the executive but an employee of the Association. Similarly, all the committees appointed by the Congress are in place. If that was not the case, football would stop completely; and football has to go on.”

The TTFA technical committee is headed by Keith Look Loy, who is also a member of Wallace’s United TTFA slate. At present, technical director Dion La Foucade appears to be operating outside of his remit as he appears to have been operating as a one-man technical committee.

But Downer stressed that Fifa’s decision only removed Wallace and his vice-presidents Clynt Taylor, Susan Joseph-Warrick and Sam Phillip.

Look Loy apart, other committees that should not be affected by the implementation of a normalisation committee are: finance (headed by Tull), club licensing (headed by Jamilya Muhammad), sports medicine (headed by Roger Evelyn), the competitions committee (headed by Sam Phillip) and the players status committee.

Photo: TTSL president and FC Santa Rosa owner Keith Look Loy leads a march for peace in Arima on 17 March 2018.
Look Loy is the current TTFA technical committee chairman.
(Copyright Annalicia Caruth/Wired868)

The TTFA Congress also made the following appointments prior to the normalisation committee: Richard Piper (national teams director), Jinelle James (women’s football director), Norris Ferguson (club licensing and compliance director) and Kelvin Jack (head of goalkeeping).

“The technical committee has to function,” said Downer. “They have not been disbanded and that is not within the remit of the normalisation committee—the functions of those committees is not one of their mandates.”

The mandate of the normalisation committee is:

  • to run the TTFA’s daily affairs;
  • to establish a debt repayment plan that is implementable by the TTFA;
  • to review and amend the TTFA Statutes (and other regulations where necessary) and to ensure their compliance with the FIFA Statutes and requirements before duly submitting them for approval to the TTFA Congress;
  • to organise and to conduct elections of a new TTFA Executive Committee for a four-year mandate.

He urged football stakeholders to stand on the side of justice and let the law take its course.

“This is basically a constitutional matter and my big point is that Fifa approved the TTFA constitution and was very instrumental in devising the present TTFA constitution, which is almost a carbon copy of the Fifa standard statutes,” said Downer. “Only a court of law can settle this—not only for us but for any other world association. I don’t see why anybody should be punished for challenging the legality of that.

Photo: SSFL president William Wallace (centre) greets players before kick off between Shiva Boys Hindu College and Naparima College at the Ato Boldon Stadium, Couva on 8 September 2017.
Wallace was elected TTFA president on 24 November 2019.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)

“The principle of natural justice is paramount in law that somebody must be given an opportunity to defend him or herself. Even children get a chance to say something in their defence. Is Fifa going against a constitution that they themselves have approved?

“This is a matter of principle—not a matter of getting banned or not getting banned. Everybody in the world has a right to seek justice. If that is not the case, then something is wrong somewhere.”

About Lasana Liburd

Lasana Liburd
Lasana Liburd is the CEO and Editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.

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  1. What is happening here. Cannot believe what I am reading from Mr. Downer. Something must have happen to him over the years because I know that he knows better than that. How can he mix up those two things. The courts can settle contracts and related issues. FIFA Statutes does not bar you from going to court entirely but it limits the issues that can be settled in court and this is certainly not one of them. Oh my, some of those that I once respected for their ability to interpret and think clearly, seem to be losing it. Now I really believe that the Wallace administration should have been given some kind of due process if they were not but CAS was the correct way to go. But to go to CAS they had to abide by the ruling until the hearing and I guess they were not prepared to do so. I am in shock. So now you are telling me that the Trinidad and Tobago courts will be basing their decision on the ‘reasoning’ for the decision rather than the ‘legality’ of the decision? Ok, maybe I am misunderstanding what he wrote. Some of these guys who became ‘famous’ in football through the FIFA seem to have a serious ‘ax’ to grind with them. Come on ref you know the difference between a ‘red’ card and a ‘yellow’ card. By the way ref, when you used to referee you used to give a player a chance to justify his actions before you give him a card? Come on man use your ability to reason and try not to encourage Mr. Wallace and the gang to put T&T football at risk. Help them raise the funds, stop their defiance and expose the FIFA at CAS. Think the results would be better that way. But who am I anyway?

    Time will tell.

    • Lasana Liburd

      Osmond Downer based his assertions on statutes. You should try to find something as concrete yourself if you’d like to contradict him. If not, there should be some humility.

      • Really? I have all the respect for Mr. Downer concerning his knowledge about the football. And if the impression is that I am not being humble then I apologize because that is not the intent. But just because something sounds like it make sense and appears to be backed up by statutes does not not mean that I have to agree with it. So I am disagreeing with his assertion and from rereading the article I still disagree with how he supports his conclusion. Does that make me right? Of course not. But I do think that it is misleading because he has to know better. There have been several case relating to football that were settled in the court of law but I can find none relating to the FIFA and the administration of football and that is the difference. If you see similarities in the both cases that is fine. But I see none. And the FIFA Statutes is clear on that. So what he has is an opinion just like you and I and he was not humble with it neither. So my name brings no expectations but he is a ‘somebody’ in football and when he expresses his opinion he can expect to be scrutinized to determine if he is wittingly or unwittingly trying to confuse the issue.

        Time will tell.

        • Lasana Liburd

          Fifa statutes and the TTFA constitution is clear on whether anyone who falls within its umbrella can use the court of law. If you’re being honest, you would start off by accepting that. Or conversely, you can copy and paste an article in either constitution that says otherwise.
          One is invited to give a reasonable opinion based on fact. An opinion based on fiction is best ignored.

          • Disagree with the statement that the opinion is based on fiction. There is no where you can show me that according to the Statutes of the FIFA, that the TTFA deposed board is allowed to take their issue to a local court of law. Quite aware of the FIFA Statutes and have no doubt about what I am saying. The TTFA Exco and the FIFA does not have a ‘typical’ contract/agreement concerning ‘administration’ that the FIFA would allow a court of law to settle. So if my opinion suggested that I did not know that, then that was the error not the fact that I do not know. There has been enough examples since I have been following/involved in football that I have zero mis-understanding as far as that is concern. Would never waste my time to share an opinion based fiction or get involved in things that I had zero knowledge about. When this is issue is settled we would all know what was facts, fiction and misinformation.

            Time will tell.

            • Lasana Liburd

              Felix, the statutes is clear that you cannot take a case to the court. But you’re saying that it can be done in some cases but not when Fifa is involved. And that’s what is fiction.
              The law does not allow it in ANY.
              The reason you want to make their seem like a distinction is because you want to say that Sancho or Corneal is okay to do it but Wallace is not. That’s not true.
              In other words, it is a law that Fifa tends to use only when it suits them to use it.
              So fiction is to say that there are the exemptions you suggested.

  2. Brent Sancho the carpetbagger trying hard to have influence on anything in Trinidad. Never lived in Sangre Grande but was the candidate for the UNC there in the last elections. Got his butt soundly whipped and had to leave with his music trucks in tow. He probably never went back to Sangre Grande since.