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Latapy heads TTFA wishlist to replace Saintfiet; but Warriors want Hart, Fevrier or Fenwick

Former Trinidad and Tobago football legend Russell Latapy is believed to head the Trinidad and Tobago Football Association’s (TTFA) wishlist, as the technical committee ponders its replacement for outgoing coach Tom Saintfiet.

However, the Soca Warriors are pleading with the local football body to return Stephen Hart to the helm.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago coach Stephen Hart (centre) and goalkeeper Michael Maurice (right) interact during a practice at the Olimpico Metropolitano stadium in San Pedro Sula on 14 November 2016 before their 2018 World Cup qualifier against Honduras. (Copyright AFP 2016/Orlando Sierra)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago coach Stephen Hart (centre) and goalkeeper Michael Maurice (right) interact during a practice at the Olimpico Metropolitano stadium in San Pedro Sula on 14 November 2016 before their 2018 World Cup qualifier against Honduras.
(Copyright AFP 2016/Orlando Sierra)

Saintfiet, who lost both 2017 CONCACAF Gold Cup playoff matches to Suriname and Haiti on 4 and 8 January respectively, informed the public that he had resigned his post on Wednesday morning, just one month into his tenure.

The journeyman Belgian, whose former jobs included the Bangladesh, Malawi and Namibia National Teams, blamed TTFA president David John-Williams for creating an environment that made it impossible for him to be successful.

Wired868 understands that, even before Saintfiet quit, Latapy—who served as the Belgian’s assistant—had already been offered the job. However, this was not confirmed by either party and, even then, the approach was said to have occurred after the Warriors lost to Haiti on Sunday night.

There is no suggestion that Latapy did not fully support Saintfiet during the latter’s short-lived stint as head coach. However, if Latapy does take over the top job, it would be the second time that he inherited the position after serving as assistant to his predecessor.

On 8 April 2009, then head coach Francisco Maturana resigned and claimed that there were “differences of opinion in the last couple of games with Latapy” and there was “never one belief” with his assistant.

Photo: TTFA president David John-Williams (right) has a word with Trinidad and Tobago National Under-17 Team coach Russell Latapy on the training ground before the CFU competition. (Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)
Photo: TTFA president David John-Williams (right) has a word with Trinidad and Tobago National Under-17 Team coach Russell Latapy on the training ground before the CFU competition.
(Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)

Then TTFF special advisor Jack Warner appointed Latapy on an interim basis with Zoran Vranes as his assistant. Vranes was subsequently replaced while Latapy kept his place for a total of 20 months.

In 13 competitive matches, Latapy led the Warriors to five wins, one draw and seven defeats and was eventually relieved his place after Trinidad and Tobago were dumped out of the 2010 Caribbean Cup at the group stage with defeats to Cuba and Grenada.

Latapy’s return to international duty, last September, was also a disappointment as Trinidad and Tobago were eliminated in the group stage on home soil in the Caribbean Under-17 Championship after losses to Haiti and Jamaica.

Latapy, a former World Cup 2006 player and Porto and Glasgow Rangers playmaker, barely had three weeks with the youth team before the competition.

And, if one of the country’s most iconic players gets the nod from the TTFA technical committee, it will be another devilishly difficult task with Trinidad and Tobago needing at least four points in Port of Spain against Panama and Mexico to kickstart their campaign on 24 and 28 March respectively.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago winger Joevin Jones (right) battles with Mexico midfielder Paul Aguilar during a 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group C match in Charlotte, North Carolina, on 15 July 2015. (Copyright AFP 2016/Nicholas Kamm)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago winger Joevin Jones (right) battles with Mexico midfielder Paul Aguilar during a 2015 CONCACAF Gold Cup Group C match in Charlotte, North Carolina, on 15 July 2015.
(Copyright AFP 2016/Nicholas Kamm)

Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene chairs the technical committee, which also includes Dr Alvin Henderson (vice-chairman), Muhammad Isa (technical director), Errol Lovell and Jinelle James. Former 1991 World Youth Cup coach Bertille St Clair has taken leave from the committee for health reasons.

Notably, Latapy is not the players’ choice—although nine members of the current Warriors pool ran out under “the Little Magician”, six years ago.

In an email to John-Williams and TTFA vice-presidents Joanne Salazar and Ewing Davis, the national footballers urged the local football body to reinstate Hart. The email was sent by Central FC goalkeeper and players’ representative Jan-Michael Williams but was said to represent 23 unnamed national players who all collaborated in the message.

“We, the players, come to you with utmost humility, asking for your consideration with regards to the selection of a new coach for the National Men’s Senior Team. We have accumulated a list of four names for special and serious consideration for the position of Head Coach and Assistant Coach.

“We KNOW it is not our decision to make, neither is it our place to make such demands, but we—23 current players—have pooled our knowledge, resources and ideas together to come up with a few names for your immediate consideration.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Sheldon Bateau (centre) is congratulated by teammates after grabbing the opening goal in a 6-0 win over St Vincent and the Grenadines at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port of Spain on 29 March 2016. (Courtesy: Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Sheldon Bateau (centre) is congratulated by teammates after grabbing the opening goal in a 6-0 win over St Vincent and the Grenadines at the Hasely Crawford Stadium, Port of Spain on 29 March 2016.
(Courtesy: Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)

“We can all agree that we the players have interacted with these names at some level, so we can safely say our knowledge can be used in this regard.”

The coaches identified by the players are: Hart, W Connection coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier and former Central FC and San Juan Jabloteh coach Terry Fenwick.

Trinidad and Tobago national players are not usually given a say in the selection of coaches but there is precedent. In 2005, Warner hired Englishman Ron Atkinson to replace Bertille St Clair—three games into the Hex—and, as a matter of courtesy, informed the senior players before revealing his choice to the media.

However, the senior players, led by captain Dwight Yorke and goalkeeper Shaka Hislop, refused to play for Atkinson due to his previous run-ins with Yorke and racist remarks the controversial manager made about former France World Cup winning captain Marcel Desailly.

So, Warner did an about-turn and eventually returned with former Real Madrid and Netherlands coach Leo Beenhakker instead.

Photo: W Connection coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: W Connection coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

In this case, the Warriors are suggesting who they would like to have as coach rather than who they do not want. The 23 players stressed too that, although Hart was their first choice, they had not decided on the preferred candidate between Fevrier and Fenwick.

Fevrier, a St Lucian by birth, spent most of his adult life in Trinidad and coached in the local top flight since 1999. He spent six months as Trinidad and Tobago coach in 2003 but was replaced before ever leading the team into competitive action.

His record of two wins, three draws and three losses was seen as credible at the time against largely decent opposition like South Africa, Venezuela and Morocco.

However, Fevrier was replaced by St Clair at the supposed insistence of a few senior players led by star striker Stern John. Although the St Lucian is a widely respected local coach, his proximity to Connection owner John-Williams could potentially be a double-edged sword.

Fenwick, a former England World Cup defender and Tottenham Spurs captain, has never coached a national team but is a multiple Pro League Coach of the Year and is widely regarded as one of the best—if not the best—coach on the island.

Photo: Terry Fenwick (right) salutes the crowd after leading Central FC to the 2014 Lucozade Sport Goal Shield title. Looking on is Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene (centre). (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Terry Fenwick (right) salutes the crowd after leading Central FC to the 2014 Lucozade Sport Goal Shield title.
Looking on is Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene (centre).
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

His teams are athletic, aggressive and tactical flexible and he worked with most of the current squad including Khaleem Hyland, Kevin Molino, Sheldon Bateau and Williams. But his relationship with John-Williams is strained while his blunt, brash style has divided football stakeholders.

Interestingly, Fenwick and Fevrier were believed to have been on the technical committee’s shortlist, even before the appeal from the national players.

Serbian coach Zoran Vranes, who led Trinidad and Tobago at the 2009 Under-20 World Cup, and Colombian Francisco Maturana, who coached his native team at the 1990 and 1994 World Cups and is a former South America Coach of the Year, are also believed to be on the TTFA’s radar.

Fenwick, Vranes and Maturana all applied for the national post, two months ago, but were overlooked for Saintfiet.

Wired868 understands that Maturana, who steered Trinidad and Tobago into the Hex for the 2010 World Cup qualifying campaign, will not return as a stop gap measure and is only interested in the post if he has the opportunity to rebuild the national team.

Photo: Former Central FC head coach Zoran Vranes. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Former Central FC head coach Zoran Vranes.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Fenwick is believed to be also disinterested in a short-term appointment.

If the TTFA insists that its next coach—like Saintfiet—will only be guaranteed employment until the end of March, it is likely to thin their options even further.

At present, Latapy, who is already employed by the TTFA as a national youth team director, seems to be the preferred candidate. But the players have other ideas.

The Warriors stressed, though, that they would give full support to whoever is selected by the local football body.

“We pledge our full support regardless of who is selected to the position, even if it a person or persons outside of this list, as we know that we the players play an integral part in helping the team to qualify for the 2018 World Cup.”

There was one other request from the players. They want team doctor Terence Babwah and paramedic Dave Isaac gone due to a supposed breakdown in trust, after the two staff members claimed that Hart used Williams against medical advice for Trinidad and Tobago’s last World Cup qualifier away to Honduras.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeper Jan-Michael Williams is helped on to the stretcher by paramedic Dave Isaacs during their 2015 Gold Cup fixture against Cuba. (Courtesy CONCACAF)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago goalkeeper Jan-Michael Williams is helped on to the stretcher by paramedic Dave Isaacs during their 2015 Gold Cup fixture against Cuba.
(Courtesy CONCACAF)

“We would also like that the duo of Dr Terrence Babwah and Dave Isaac be replaced with IMMEDIATE EFFECT, because of the lack of trust that we the players have in them,” stated the players. “We look forward to working with you—the Federation—hand in hand to reach our goal, which is qualification for the 2018 World Cup.”

(Full statement from 23 Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team players)

Good day Members of the TTFA,

We hope this message meets you all in good health and spirits.

We, the players, come to you with utmost humility, asking for your consideration with regards to the selection of a new coach for the National Men’s Senior Team. We have accumulated a list of four names for special and serious consideration for the position of Head Coach and Assistant Coach.

We KNOW it is not our decision to make, neither is it our place to make such demands, but we—23 current players—have pooled our knowledge, resources and ideas together to come up with a few names for your immediate consideration.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team coach Stephen Hart (centre) and players (from right) Mekeil Williams, Daneil Cyrus, Kenwyne Jones, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Sheldon Bateau at a national training session. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA Images)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team coach Stephen Hart (centre) and players (from right) Mekeil Williams, Daneil Cyrus, Kenwyne Jones, Radanfah Abu Bakr and Sheldon Bateau at a national training session.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA Images)

We can all agree that we the players have interacted with these names at some level, so we can safely say our knowledge can be used in this regard. We pledge our full support regardless of who is selected to the position, even if it a person or persons outside of this list, as we know that we the players play an integral part in helping the team to qualify for the 2018 World Cup.

We also ask that we be treated without prejudice, neither for the composition of this list nor for allowing it into the hands of the media, as we believe it will be treated with the seriousness it requires when we do so. The list is as follows:

Head coaches for consideration:

Stephen Hart

Stuart Charles-Fevrier

Terry Fenwick

Angus Eve (Assistant Coach)

Photo: Club Sando and Naparima College coach Angus Eve. (Courtesy Wired868)
Photo: Club Sando and Naparima College coach Angus Eve.
(Courtesy Wired868)

We would also like that the duo of Dr Terrence Babwah and Dave Isaac be replaced with IMMEDIATE EFFECT, because of the lack of trust that we the players have in them.

We look forward to working with you—the Federation—hand in hand to reach our goal, which is qualification for the 2018 World Cup.

About Lasana Liburd

Lasana Liburd
Lasana Liburd is the CEO and Editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.

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226 comments

  1. Dennis Lawrence is head coach it is about time they finally got it right

  2. This whole …. reality tv show getting really ……really …… old ……. peace out folks ……

  3. Brian which Russia the one in Quebec

  4. We need jean Claude tigana as head coach at this stage to visit Russia or at least a coach of his level

  5. Terry Fenwick, really ……the man who spit on players, Really slavery is alive and well, Who in this group of young players, know Terry Fenwick history in T&T?. Who is behind this ? Lasana , i saw Fenwick speaking on your lime at UWI, I was taken aback. I did not want to jump to conclusion about anything. Guess II was right,I said to myself read between the lines Rossana. I smell a rat looking for cheese. We really good in T&T. when you err in T&T you banned for life, but let foreigners do the same thing we embrace them and pay them huge sums,, while locals begging for payment. Ask Latas. comedy ah errors

  6. Latapy was a great footballer. That does not necessarily transfer into coaching.

  7. These boys has no idea what it means to represent one’s country.
    Absolutely none.
    They’re full of themselves, which o e of them can effect a game in a positive way just by their presence on the field of play?
    It could be a little child appointed as coach, you were chosen to represent give it your all.
    Comply don’t complain.

  8. Evey Player who’s sign that WAR declaration should be banish to the Island Prison…. Traitors….

  9. Latapy didn’t try this coaching thing already?

  10. bring bac hart.. he is ah boss

  11. I vote for Fenwick. Marcus Daniel. What you think.

  12. What they need is Maradonna and 10 Maradonnas to play on the field.

  13. Because they wanted Coach Hart they sabotaged the games what a sorry bunch of losers. Players don’t pick the coach. Are they paying him.> It now looks as though he encourage loose behaviour. You all making Mr Hart look Bad You all are no Drogba or YaYa Toure. Get a grip of your selves and represent your country…

  14. HART FOR THE ASSIST, PASSES THE BALL TO FENWICK, FENWICK SHOOTS, AND SCORES!!! WHAT A LOVELY GOAL BY TERRY FENWICK!!!!

  15. Is there a criteria checklist that the coaches have to meet? Or is it the cheapest for the shortest time possible?

  16. Hart but Dennis Lawrence would be a great asst

  17. Lasana Liburd they need to bring back Hart if Trinidad and Tobago stand a chance to qualify for world cup.He is the one that got us to the final stages and the players had somewhat adated to his system of play.The only thing the warriors need is key addition to the side.Firstly we need Strikers with an eye for the goal that can take on defenders.We have to play to our strenghts we have skillfull and speedy wingers, don’t you think we should have a Strikers that will be able to get into the box to be in the receiving end of those crosses,Kenwyn jones do not have the speed to be in that system.Secondly we need to be Physically and mentality fit for 90 min.Lastly we need to communicate better on and off the field from ttfa right down to the players,players should not worry about any distraction but play football.Remember this team under Hart stood up to the mighty Mexicans on a couple of occasion under Hart.This is not the Benchmark we want to reach?

    • Do you know harts record ?????

    • No I don’t, I know we are in the final stage of the hex and that is what is important.I know he had the country buzzing again after the gold cup.You dont think he did alot without much help from TTFA?

    • Shawn Lee… I agree with you 90%… But Hart’s system of play no matter what seemed to include Kenwyn Jones and ANY OTHER 10 though but yet u say “we need strikers with an eye for the goal… And Kenwyn Jones does not have the speed to be in that system”… But Hart insisted on using Jones clearly… The coach has to find the players, not the TTFA, the coach has to pick the right team, not the TTFA and clearly with Hart’s decision to constantly using Kenwyn without fail is what lead to his demise…

    • So Shawn Lee after 3 and half years he only 16 games from 43, is that great ??? Can that justify a rehiring ????

    • Bass Cleff. I think he would he would off made the change with Kenwyn Jones, but because of public opinion about Jones and numorous outside coaches I think TTFA move to hastily in there decision making to fire him .I guess they wanted him to make that decision to please the public but egoes bump head and this is the situation we in now.

    • Take note Shawn Lee of his record before coaching tnt !!! Any big club or top country ?????

    • Shawn Lee do you kenwyne record as a goal scorer for tnt ?????

    • Kj tally is about 89 games for tnt currently and not 83

    • Trini Don so you still think we should build a team around Jones? When most of the team is fast and Kenwyn is not up to speed and cannot last 90 mins in a game.Your captain suppose to lead by example with the way he approach the game.

    • Hey Shawn Lee my point basically is that Coach Hart is overated, and the results he received over the last 3 and half years has been poor, however Kenwyne Jones , is probably the WORST Captain tnt ever had. besides being slow and lazy, he has a very poor ball controll for a player at this level. He is not a dribbler, or a great shooter, passer etc, his football IQ in my opinion us very low, i think he should revert to a defender, as yorke reinvented himself as a striker to a holding midfielder

    • How can a coach be overated and he led the team to the doorstep to qualify for the world cup.I guess he had them playing at the right time.You cannot look at the past,Coaches are judge of what they did lately .

    • Shawn in 2016 he lost 8 out of 13 games, drew 2 and won only 3…..thats recent…. are u happy about that ….??? St clair tookbus to the hex also, and gally as well in 1989….you dont get a medal for hex ok

    • I am happy that we in the last six to give us a chance to the world cup.Does dont matter about record at this Point he was doing something right that led us to wher e we at now.Why change NOW? because certain people got power to do so.CRAZY.

    • Shawn Lee what shall i say, if you are happy with a mediocre coach and mediocre captain, please enjoy…..but football us a results business

    • Well he is no longer the coach.Hope that who ever they put will finish what he started. So far they are doing a terrible job.I wondér why the players are writing letters asking ttfa to hiring back?

    • Well the players should on being fitt, and continously improving on their game, and be prepared to wear that red white and black proudly, irregardless of the coach

  18. ..The players need to shut up with the public statements about who they want for coach and try to play some football. They could have an opinion, to be sure, but their job is to play football. They HAD Hart and let him down now they want him back? This player power business is a JOKE. They need to focus on their JOB and leave the selection of coaches to those who have that portfolio..

  19. Hart would be an idiot to come back here after being dismissed in the manner that he was. Especially with Isaacs & Babwah on the technical staff! In my opinion, if the TTFA and its President were really about getting the team to qualify for Russia 2018, they would have hired a coach who is already familiar with the players, the mandate being to get the team up & playing the kind of football that would bring positive results (see U.S. rehiring Bruce Arena). Instead they hired a “Saint” for obvious reasons (if only obvious to me).

  20. Carlos Lee: An anonymous player claimed the information in the players’ poll was misrepresented… Of course I don’t know that is true and Jan-Michael Williams stands by his letter:
    http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports/2017-01-14/maturana-among-five-candidates-interviewed

    • Lasana – Can’t say I’m surprised of that. I personally don’t think such a letter should have drafted to begin with. But as I said previously some players are simply trying to ensure their survival/selection. Anyway – hoping non of those listed in Jan-Michael’s shortlist and in the link provided get the nod. They would all make decent assistant coaches, but none are deserving of the head coach position in this situation. Let’s go after former Panama national team coach and player, Dely Valdez, or former US coach Bradley. I would even go after someone like Ryan Giggs or Paul Ince. Someone players would respect and be willing to give their all for. Someone with some name recognition and with connections that would make it easier for us to get decent friendly matches. And someone that spectators would align with, respect, and support.

    • My foreign base Coach Bradley from my second sweetest country will be coming to where eh Carlos Lee, not until the bootleg corrupted TTFA really gets their act together eh, and you and I know that won’t be happening anytime soon. Them really good yes.

  21. . . .we can’t pay for a good coach but we fired the best we had. So where do we go from here? Our players to need to understand talent is not enough.

  22. Too many tin pot tyrants. Dr politics not dead.

  23. Ive been saying for a while now….latapy is who they setting up to bring it

  24. Latas failed to deliver before, and his current stint with the youths not going well.

  25. Why is it that every Sport governing body in Trinidad & Tobago have confusion? Is it the way we think?

  26. Joey like you get entangle in the flag? You really good yes.??????

  27. 8 games left guys come on man het yall sh8t together.. Usa is there to beat.. We can hamdle panama .. We need to get our sh8t together man. This is depressing!!!!!

  28. Yuh mean on the road to Russia 2018 Joey Richardson. hahahaha

  29. Or selris figaro n ian clauzel

  30. Everad gally cummings is d man for the job

  31. I like the players really dont care who is the coach but i care about players total commitment to team country and coach ah cant take another Morineo best coach uncomitted players i also want unconditional statement vowing their total commitment leaving the partying for when with their clubs they come here to work hard all of the foreigners can afford to party their own way party not on my time and $$$$ fellars agree about that medical team too they served thier time well on and off the field so all i want is the same energy and effort i put out in the stands paying to do from those who getting paid to play every one is surprised to see me paying to enter games who does be in most games at airport alone to meet the team win loose or draw or dropped i there so i feel i could demand a greater effort moving foward together on the road to Germany

  32. Fenwick will get the job done.

  33. Lasana did the technical staff meet with the potential coaches? Any updates?

  34. Everything reads as a MASSIVE ball of confusion. Where is the LEADERSHIP? and I do not mean PERSONS occupying leadership positions. As with everything else in Trinidad, it is a straight case of EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.

  35. Please latapy he have d record for d worst coach in Trinidad football ,,,,never win a game

  36. SCF track record in champions League should be be enough to disqualify him as a fair measure of competence….d man track record in concacaf level not good…….at all

  37. But at the same time all TTFA leader ship has to go .. their policies suck..no plans

  38. Fenwick. Hart took us to another level but we someone who will finish the journey.

  39. Best allyuh did take lara cuz apparently this football is ah joke
    Latapy is no stranger but we need more experience man come on ??

  40. What we need is top class players. Problem not really with coach.
    Just so much you could do with what you working with.

    Keeping it real.

  41. Would love to see the objective scoring criteria everyone and the TTFA is using to select the “best” coach.

  42. Though not mentioned by the players I think Gally Cummings did a fantastic job with the Strike Squad and has the capacity to successfully lead the national team. With the assistance of Brian Williams and Latapy as the coaches of the the under 20 and 17 respectively. This would ensure some continuity in the coaching of the Senior Men’s Team.

  43. In 2005 senior members of the team objected to the appointment of Atkinson but accepted Leo so this is nothing new.

  44. No coach, try something new, let them just run unto the field and play just so, call it indiscipline football, they might do better, cause that’s what T&T football is about.

  45. Latapy does not have that kind of experience and expertise. Our teams needs a Fitness expert to start any kind of rebuilding process.

  46. Players should never be allowed to pick a coach as some may get the idea that the selection would be bias as loyalty to players who asked for them to be the coach. I want the best side not any bias selection. Cause even with Hart we saw some players under sanifiet that never got a look in under hart and played better than some of these players calling back for hart. I want an unbiased coach who only want good results and not picking players cause they are good with them

  47. Latas will not work under Hart … his ego is too big for that

  48. Latapy has a poor coaching rep ….so disaapointing to me because he was such a gem of a player ….think him with hart would have been a good idea but Hartie aint coming back to this bs

  49. Pride of the ttfa is most likely going to keep them from reinstating Hart. But he’s the best choice I find. And somebody tell Williams to keep his hands out of the day to day running of the team.

  50. Earl Best

    A genuine crisis, a wise man once said, is a situation in which whatever you do is wrong. Using that definition, the current situation in national football qualifies,

    So, if I were in charge of the TTFA, what I would do is between now and March 28, take NO action likely to affect the national team’s performance in the next two WC qualifiers except provide such funding as I can.

    Leave the “prima donnas” to fend for themselves, setting up their own schedules, “hiring” their own coach(es), selecting their own teams. That way several problems would be solved, including the very real $$$ problem that few are admitting exists.

    And we can then start with a clean slate and a clear vision on the evening of March 28.

    Might as well be slaughtered for a flock of flocking sheep as for a lone lamb.

  51. If DJW can put aside his ego and bias and if the members of the Technical Committee can grow a pair then we have hope that history will not repeat itself with another rediculous selection…Terry Fenwick is the BEST way to go at this point in time…Let’s not forget in 2005 we ALSO lost our first 2 games vs USA at home and vs Guatemala away so all hope is not yet lost.

    • Brian….what has Terry Fenwick actually done to make you believe he is the best way to go at this time?

    • Brian Springer everyone is beating the Terry tune now. Why do you think he makes such a good candidate?

    • I’ll give you 10 reasons Kester Lendor 1. He KNOWs the players having coached many of them before so less learning curve and we don’t have much time for a new coach to get familiar a la Tom DeFeat 2. He’s been following the team via game commentary and identified areas where we could improve so he’s practically been on the job already 3. He’s familiar with our opposition having Coached in CONCACAF CL 4. He’s a DEFENDER and THAT is the area we need a lot of work 5. He’s a no-nonsense Coach that will instill a lot of PASSION into team-play…NO-ONE will be allowed to “Coast” and think they are an automatic pick 6. He has a history of unearthing and developing a lot of YOUNG players from his time at Jabloteh and continues to do so now with Football Factory so expect some new faces for the future 8. You can rest assured DISCLIPLINE will NOT be an issue under HIS watch 9. He’s already in the country and can start work tomorrow 10. He should be affordable

    • P.S. I don’t join bandwagons i START them 😉

    • Yuh know Andre errol baptiste, Lasana Liburd, Ross Russell, Mike Mc and just about everyone on wired qualifies according to ur requirements.
      1. He know the players
      2. Follows the game via commentary
      3. Familiar with opposition
      4. We need help up top, centre field, defence, in goal, transition from defense to attack and attack to defence. Priddie much everywhere on the field.
      5. They’re no nonsense. (Actually Tom was too and look at the team he ended up with)
      6. Unearthing new talent aka scout at the NSL, zones U20 programs & overseas.
      7. New faces in the future. Well i do hope the current bunch wont play into their 40s (lol)
      That is exactly why i asked the question. Maybe Terry is the man but just wanna know what are the reasons.

    • Well unlike those names you mentioned Terry has actually PLAYED in a Senior Men’s World Cup so knows what it takes to get there.

    • So too did Russell and Dennis Lawrence champ.

    • Lawrence I can say give a shot Latas tried and FAILED miserably first with Senir Team then more recently with the U-17’s

    • …and you left out Dwight Yorke.

  52. the players need to do what they not doing right now playing good football an not pick who they want this gold cup fiasco was staged by the players because they hate discipline .they not worthy to rep tnt

  53. Pleased to see the players speak up as this is not quite standing up, I would have preferred all 23 players who support this position take the similar risk as Jan Michael by publicly adding their names. The absence of their names hints of a symptom of the problem within the TTFA and our football. Ironically, its not too difficult to figure out a large pool of the 23 so why “hide” behind Jan gloves. I hope that I am not being too critical but I think in our culture we need to see those 23 Men willing to Stand UP(sorry for the caps LL)

    After all you are leaving your families and risking your careers on National duty often to NOT get paid and you are not speaking up much less standing UP. How can we expect you to fight for your country if you are not fighting for yourselves?

    For those who asking the players to be quiet and just play, the last question above is for you.

    Regarding hiring a coach, I have no damn idea only one thought do NOT hire anyone with your primary reason being Russia 2018. Hire a coach who can prepare for 2022 and 2026 that is prepared to work with this group, U20, U17 and establish a serious technical committee with a serious technical director. I am not saying abandon 2018 because you cant when games are left to be played but approach it with the future in mind.

  54. This is real jokes, yes! I wonder where in the world you, as an employee, can make a request for a preferred boss. Dem fellas ain’t ready and might never be! Dem on jokes this morning.

  55. Need to get rid of the whole football staff football not going no where just spinning in circles this country will never see a next world Cup former players need to come back followed by Ben hacker right now things not making no sense plain talk

  56. Bring Hart back and make Fenwick assistant coach

  57. Hart would not return to coach us under a DJW led administration. I can’t see Femwick working under him either, so it will probably be Latapy or W Connection’s coach. What a mess!

  58. Why would Hart return to work for this absolute shit show of an administration. They are the ones that need replacing.

  59. Russell “ah does onee smoke one cigarette ah day” Latapy?

  60. Fervier and John-Williams too close.

  61. we all know is the W connection coach getting the job. I think we will all be shocked if anyone else gets it

  62. Latapy worse than the last coach I say Jamaal Frenwick or Fervier is my favorite

  63. If DJW has his way (and he usually has) there is no way I am seeing that Fenwick would get that job #realtalk #justsaying

  64. Steupes this Prez underhandedly use a Dr to fire a coach, hire a coach who he know he could hire and fire same time so he could eventually bring in his own candidate, early o’clock he try jumping out to head a regional body.. we seeing the man tendencies.. does he really have country’s football at heart, could our football really improve in this environment!… all this man have to do now is stammer… smh

  65. What a mess. Just hire someone good and done. Let the govt jump In to provide the funding for a high quality coach. This sporting venture might be one of the few things as a nation we can look forward to this year. If Hart is willing maybe he can still be part of the setup but I still believe the initial success did make us complacent and I am glad we got our reality checks early. Santifet was just another one. With a few months to go we have to get it right this time.

  66. Read a few comments here bashing the players for making suggestions as to who they would like to work for. If I had the opportunity (and balls) to make such informed requests I’d definitely jump at it. Especially since the TTFA can’t seem to figure it out. If we the general public could have opinions, why shouldn’t the people who will be working with the next coach day in day out? I’m not saying this should necessarily be a general practice but this is a special situation.

    • It isn’t unusual though. I remember when there was a vacancy for England manager and the players said they would love to work with Redknapp.
      I remember the Dutch players saying it would be great if Rinus Michel was their coach.
      Or players publicly suggesting a player their club could sign.
      For me, once they don’t have a coach at the time then there is no harm in a suggestion.
      If they were saying this while Saintfiet was in charge, THEN it would be unprofessional.

    • Totally agreed. I wasn’t aware of the instances you brought up but they serve to reinforce my position that we should not be condemning the players for seeking their best interest. I like that Jan as a leader and captain on the team has taken a central role. Maybe this can serve as impetus for the players to pursue a proper player’s association. I hope Shaka Hislop hasn’t given up completely on this.

  67. I have a problem with people telling big men, especially professionals to shut their trap… Could it be the players are in the best position to have an opinion? Pheeeeeeeeeeew!!!

    • They had a great coach and failed to work for and with him. They never showed support for him when he was about to be fired. Did they pen a letter asking that the TTFA stick with Hart? No! Now they’re begging that he be rehired. Seriously?

    • I saw football going in a good direction before DJW assuming the presidency… I saw a team of committed players, and the results showed it… I still stand by my objection to telling big man to shut their trap, especially when they are in a better position than all of us to judge… To paint the entire team as prima donnas is also unfortunate… The current situation in our football is a direct result of (lack of) leadership… Same as West Indies cricket…

    • Marlon – Disagree totally. Football in tnt was not heading in an upward direction pre- DJW. What we had was a small blip – over a 6-8 month period. The overall trend has been downward since Germany 2006. It started when Jack Warner took all the profits from WC 2006 then blacklisted / banned most of the players. TTFA and all national teams have been suffering since.

    • So who are the prima donnas again? 🙂

    • Lol – The current crop of senior team players.

    • Carlos Lee in 2015 the football team was ranked 49th in the world by FIFA. That was our highest ranking since 2002.
      And it was no blip. So we made two gold cup quarterfinals and were runners up in two Caribbean Cups, all in the space of six to eight months?
      That’s ridiculous.
      Marlon can prove his point with facts. We were at our highest place in over a decade in 2015. And in November 2015, we had a change of president. Go check the rankings now.

    • Carlos u serious…..when Hart got our team…where he took it from and where he brought it….he made great strides…..we were matching the top Concacaf teams….and as a Coach…i can say this from experience….TTFA and alllllllllll other Coaches pleeeeeeeeeease take note….Trinidad and Tobago footballers r very difficult to manage from November to Carnival….
      I am not asking
      And i am not debating
      Its a FACT….

    • Dexter – that’s funny. Tnt players are difficult to manage from Nov to Carnival. Love it.

    • It is too easy to pick on players without consideration and knowledge of the shyte they have to put up with “behind the scenes”… I believe the record is there to be seen… An upward trajectory, then the slide… The slide coincided with an election, then alleged bust up’s between coach and new president…

    • Players were harshly criticised and called all sorts of names for not going to Nicaragua with the team over Christmas period.
      But the players who went have still not received their per diems and match fees. Yet not a peep from the public on that.

    • Carlos i not asking nobody about this….i tellin u what i experience as TTEC Head Coach….it is by farrrrrrrrr the most difficult period to manage T+T players everrrrrrrrr…
      When i realised what i was up against….i was not up against the player….i was coming up against the Culture that was embedded in them….its a much greater task when u r actually in the situation trying to manage it…than standing outside talking about how it should be managed

    • Coaches from plenty clubs said the same thing: Guaya, Defence Force… In Trinidad, once you’re under your mother’s roof, Carlos, you have gate to paint and furniture to move for Christmas. You feel they want to hear about Central FC?
      I even had a referee tell me that it is an exhausting period for him because outside of his job and officiating, he still has to give his family a hand with chores.

    • Lasana – Hilarious. I can see this becoming an issue in the amateur leagues, but not in the professional league and/or with our national teams.

    • The level has nothing to do with it….d Culture of the individual is embedded in him longgggggggggg b4 he becomes a professional footballer or National player….so wen u as d Coach gets this player…the Culture is already there…u now hav to find a way to make them understand Football’s Culture

  68. Terry is the best bet at the moment. But DJW cannot push him around, so not much chance of that happening.

  69. Point well taken, Carlos (“They need to focus on developing….”)

  70. They can give me the job, hockey is similar to football. 11 players, defenders, midfielders and forwards. I am sure I will be a huge improvement 🙂 🙂 :).

  71. Terry Fenwick is the appropriate choice

  72. These prima-donnas just need to shut their traps and play football! They need to focus on developing their weak game. Focus on improving their discipline, their commitment, and their passion for wearing the national colors. They got Hart fired now they begging for him to be rehired? Jokers yes. Lmao

  73. Last time Latapy got d job T&T finished 6th, no disrespect to d man but I say give it to Terry

  74. Would love to see Hart back involved in someway. Process of elimination, Vranes, Latapy and Fervier all got a shot at it already and never made an indelible mark. Anybody being offered a short term contract makes no sense, bottom line

  75. If I were Stephen Hart i wouldn’t touch TnT football with a ten foot pole. But alas, he’s a good guy so who knows.

  76. All things being equal if the players have a say in the appointment of their coach, it will strengthen the bond between the both parties, thus adding that particular chemistry necessary for positive outcomes. Just as in a business, employees are motivated when their input is recognised and productivity is increased which is sorely needed now.
    Come on we need something to smile about in football!

  77. Give Fenwick the Job…a three year contract…let’s forget 2018…who we fooling…

    • I wouldn’t give up just yet……2006 we lost 2-1 to the US, 5-1 to Guatemala and drew 0-0 with Costa Rica. There is still a SLIM chance we might pull something off but we need to get our act in a serious order.

  78. I respect these men for standing up as senior players and making a suggestion. Personally id like to see terry given the reigns until the next gold cup. or do a terry and fervier combo like shabazz and barber……………if that is tennable then i think it will be the best bet.

  79. This is crazy. These poor Nashies literally begging this man to put them in the best position to be successful?

    Based on his past record that plea by the players falling on deaf ears…smh

  80. Why fevrier of all names lol… angus eve hmmm, that one caught me by surprise

  81. If the players open to Stuart Charles-Fevrier as head coach then I think that is an easy and done deal in DJW’s mind #wconnectionposse

  82. I find those players have real nerve…if only a coach could’ve given a player talent eh or even if it could’ve been bought in a store lol… A coach can only “enhance” your talent at this age… You either have it or you don’t… I’m just saying…

  83. Carlos Lee these people drinking what uncle Elis drinking….the flag blowing the breeze??

  84. Terry fenwick is dman rigth know for the job

  85. We’re most likely gonna get another “saintfiet” , and some imminent chop and change in April

  86. Bring back Hart and let him finish what him and his boys started…bottomline.

  87. latapy’s record.last stint was.appalling

  88. It’s a no-brainer that Mr. Fenwick should be the one given the opportunity for three obvious reasons:-

    (1) He is the only one on the Players Recommended List who actually applied for the job so why take someone from outside of that who did not even given consideration to the challenge ahead.

    (2) At this critical juncture, at least 4 points are desperately needed in the Hex so no time to develop chemistry and buy in with new coach. Again a no brainer to use a Coach who already knows the current players strengths, weaknesses, idiosyncrasies and even how to deal with our fete mentality and penchant for boat rides!

    (3) We are evidently plagued by the proverbial “foreigner syndrome” where we must have an outsider come in seemingly because they possess a higher pedigree. The great Gally Cummings have articulated that a local coach can get it done. Thus, with Fenwick you get both sides appeased in that he is now a “localized” Foreigner. It’s the best of both worlds especially since he played at the World Cup and in the EPL.

    Why not take a chance? Sometimes brash and brazen is what is needed from a coach…not kid’s gloves!
    However, with the all the politics and skulduggery at the TTFA, expect the unexpected!

  89. The players are key stakeholders of the game and have every right to offer suggestions. I like the idea of the involvement of Angus Eve. If the job is short-term, and Hart, Fenwick and Charles-Fervier are not interested but Zoran Vranes is, he might just be better than the best bet in the circumstances, especially with the TTFA’s history in falling short of its commitment to honour its compensation agreements with technical staff and players.
    It appears that the players are not particularly keen on Latas taking up d role as head coach.
    Also if the collective will of the players is reposed with little respect and trust for the team medic and his physio, then it might be easier to replace this pair than than the players. I suspect Jan Michael is a casualty of the strained relationship between him and the team medic.
    I would imagine if the TTFA prezy has any sense, he would do well to listen a little lest he intends to leave a legacy of a loathsome leader.
    Hanging to the coattails of FIFA president Infantino, just because he voted for the Italian, will do him no special $$ or other favours, if the various national teams continue to perform as badly as they are under his tenure.

  90. Carlos, like you eh realize that everything fall down. The present,modified vacuum creates scenarios like that.

  91. I agree that the coach should get a deal at least until the 2019 Gold Cup. No coach with self respect with accept anything else.
    With all due respect to Angus Eve and Earl Jean, who are both competent football men, whoever gets the job should get their own staff.
    Let’s give coaches what they need as best as possible so they have no excuses for failure.

  92. They could live in hope I suppose. Nothing wrong with dreaming but unfortunately it’s only nightmares for them. They should have stood their ground long before this therefore I have no sympathy for that bunch of back stabbing cowards. Where were they when coach Hart needed their support. Busy covering their own asses while they hung him out to dry. Steups!!

  93. I think Angus Eve or Earl John would be great assistant coaches. Whichever coach is chosen should be given at least 1 year with a promise of decent friendly games. This is a period of consolidation. 2 draws may not be acceptable for 2018 qualification, but we have to steady the ship and look at the next gold cup and 2022. A quick fix ain’t gonna happen. We don’t need a coach who’s only trying to win next two games. We need a coach who will develop a professional culture, who will look at our 15 & 16 year olds and prepare them for the future. Forget 2018, it’s already gone. Bring back the pride in wearing the red, white and black and plan for the future!

  94. Wait – players want to decide who should coach them and who should be the team doctor? Lol. Next they will want to decide when and if to train, when to go on ah boat ride, who should make the squad, and who should be in the starting 11. Jokers yes.

    • It worked really well the last time the team had an input. And I’d say judging on the last appointment, the TTFA should be grateful for additional advice.
      It isn’t odd elsewhere to give senior players a say though, even though they obviously won’t have final call.

    • So how do you think benhaker was hired in 2005???

    • Lasana – this is a national team. This is not your Wired868 fete match, where players can suggest an appropriate coach or captain to you, the organizer. All these idiots trying to do is load the dice in their favor to ensure their selection.

    • Carlos, you never see players all over the world saying in the press: we hope we get this player… we hope we get this coach?
      For me, there is not unusual here. At least the players still care about this campaign.
      Just a suggestion from them. Not a threat.

    • Lionel Messi and other senior players of Argentina….were influential in Tata being names Head Coach of Argentina….
      Germany had a private meeting with their players and the players gave Lowe the nod….and look how that turned out…
      So once it can be handled right ….nothing is wrong as a governing body finding out where the players heads are at….b4 making a choice….Leo Benhakker was chosen bcuz the senior players agreed to hav him…and look how that turned out….flip the coin…..and think about if the senior players did not object to Atkinson..who was Mr Warner’s first choice…..the we would not hav gotten Benhakker…..and we would not have reached to the World Cup

    • Lasana – individual players may be asked by the press if they have a preference, but rarely do you have an entire team penning a letter to an FA with a list of preferred options.

    • Dexter – Messi is one of a kind. And from what I recall Klinsmann was the one who recommended Lowe take over from him after Germany 2006. He was Klinsmann’s assistant at the time. As for Atkinson – unfortunately we don’t know how his appointment would have turned out. So let’s not assume he would not have been successful had he been given the job. Maybe with him
      things would have been even better. We might have not only qualified for the WC, but also won one or more matches in Germany?

    • I’m not talking about individual players being asked but about them offering suggestions. Although it is true that teams ask their senior players for advice.
      I don’t think it is worse for a team to do it. I’m encouraged that they still care enough about this campaign to get together as a group and come up with a shortlist. And it is a better shortlist than the TTFA technical committee came up with.
      There is nothing to suggest that Ron would have gotten Trinidad to the World Cup. And there is even less to suggest he was a bette coach than Beenhakker. That’s laughable.
      I only ever speculate based on something.

    • Lasana – do you have a list of the players who signed the letter? Would love to see who were some of these “caring” players.

    • Nah. I don’t. But Jan-Michael has operated as the players’ representative with the TTFA for a long time. So I can only take his word for it.

    • Lasana – Wait. So Jan-Michael pens a letter to the TTFA and says he’s representing the views of 20 plus players? And none of the players names are listed? Interesting. And to think that he’s not even the captain of the team. Jokers yes.

    • The 23 players he claims to be representing – do they have a guarantee pick on the national team? Do they include any of the players from the recent Caribbean Cup matches or are these players from Hart’s last WC qualifier?

    • Only two players from the Caribbean Cup were uncapped before. All the rest were essentially in the pool already. In any case, I don’t know the identity of the 23.

  95. It will be whomever DJW can control. And I don’t think any of those three are ‘yes men’.