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New Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team head coach Tom Saintfiet made his first big call as Soca Warriors coach today—and it was a six foot three decision.
Saintfiet selected his first squad today and named 28 players to face Nicaragua in friendly internationals on 27 and 30 December. And, even with 16 players summoned from the local Pro League, there was no room for the giant Central FC forward who scored 16 goals in 35 matches under former coach Stephen Hart—albeit just two items from eight games in the Russia 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign so far.
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Jones scored just once in 2016, which was also a miserable year for the team.
Saintfiet revealed that Jones was informed he would not be selected last week, which would have been within a day or two of the Belgian taking over as head coach. And the new Warriors coach suggested that, although the door was not closed to the former Sunderland and Stoke City forward, he wants to tweak the style of play of the Trinidad and Tobago team in time for next month’s Gold Cup playoff matches against Suriname and Haiti on 4 and 8 January respectively.
“I had a personal meeting with Kenwyne last week and I discussed privately with him the reason why we took that decision,” Saintfiet told Wired868. “The criteria for the selection of players is our tactical ideas and choices we want to use against Suriname and Haiti. The next thing is the current physical and mental shape of the players in our knowledge…
“Kenwyne is not out of the squad for good. I will follow up with how he performs [with Central FC] and how he performs with [his new MLS employers] Atlanta.”
Jones, who scored Central’s decisive second goal in a 2-1 win over W Connection on Monday, leaves for pre-season with new United States Major League Soccer (MLS) franchise, Atlanta United FC, on 1 January 2017.
Kenwyne Jones scored a deft winner but was still excluded from the national side.
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The next MLS season begins in March 2017. Trinidad and Tobago host Panama and Mexico on 24 and 28 March in two vital qualifiers, which could decide the country’s World Cup fate as well as Saintfiet’s short-term coaching future.
For now, Saintfiet believes that Trinidad and Tobago’s best chance of getting results is with speed upfront and Jones, a classic target man and set piece weapon, does not fit in.
Instead, he selected San Juan Jabloteh striker Willis Plaza and the overseas-based duo of Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—Mexico) and Trevin Caesar (Orange County Blues—USA). Caesar, a diminutive speedy frontman, is one of a half dozen players who are in their off-season at present.
“I want a lot of speed upfront and space to run into on the counter attack,” said Saintfiet. “But I do not want to say too much because [the technical staff of] Suriname and Haiti can read what I say.”
Saintfiet will decide on his new captain by Christmas.
“I have not yet an answer for the [identity of the] new captain,” said Saintfiet. “I want to talk better to the players… We still have some doubts about availability of players [for the Gold Cup playoffs].”
Trinidad and Tobago won 6-0.
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Orlando City midfield ace Kevin Molino is back in the squad after an internal two game suspension while there were recalls for Sean De Silva (Central FC), Alvin Jones, Hughtun Hector, Aikim Andrews (all W Connection) and Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force).
There were also intriguing call-ups for Defence Force playmaker Hashim Arcia, flying St Ann’s Rangers winger Jomoul Francois and versatile W Connection defender Maurice Forde. And, most of all, former 2006 World Cup and Sunderland flanker Carlos Edwards, who now represents Ma Pau Stars in the Pro League.
Edwards has over 80 National Senior Team caps but has not represented his country in three years.
England-based midfielder conductor Andre Boucaud, Eredivisie winger Levi Garcia and combative Belgium-based midfielder Khaleem Hyland were not named in Saintfiet’s first squad but the coach insisted that it was a matter of availability. He still hopes to have their services for the Gold Cup playoffs, if possible.
None of the four upcoming matches fall under the FIFA match window and clubs can decide whether they choose to release players to take part.
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However, Saintfiet said the United States duo of Neveal Hackshaw and Ataulla Guerra were simply overlooked at present.
Midfield anchor Kevan George, who is also in his off-season, ruled himself out of the Nicaragua games and will be left out of the Gold Cup playoffs as a result, since the new coach believes there will be insufficient time to get him in shape and fit him into his new tactics.
There were four W Connection, three Central and two Ma Pau players in the squad. Shahdon Winchester, Jomal Williams and Triston Hodge, who are on loan from Connection, were also selected.
There was no room for Defence Force striker Devorn Jorsling, Central FC attacker Marcus Joseph, Jabloteh wingers Nathan Lewis and Tyrone Charles or Mexico-based defender Yohance Marshall while Connection defender Jelani Peters is believed to be out due to injury.
World Cup 2006 striker Cornell Glen, who now plays professionally, was also overlooked although he was identified by Hart as a potential inclusion to help save Trinidad and Tobago’s faltering Russia 2018 World Cup chances.
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(Trinidad and Tobago 28-man squad)
Goalkeepers: Jan Michael Williams (Central FC), Glenroy Samuel (Ma Pau Stars), Marvin Phillip (Morvant Caledonia United), Adrian Foncette (Police FC);
Defenders: Carlos Edwards (Ma Pau Stars), Daneil Cyrus (W Connection), Sheldon Bateau (Krylia Sovetov Samara—Russia), Triston Hodge (Toronto FC II—Canada), Mekeil Williams (Colorado Rapids—USA), Carlyle Mitchell (Seoul E-Land FC—Korea Republic), Radanfah Abu Bakr (Sillamae Kallen—Estonia), Maurice Ford (W Connection), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Aubrey David (Dallas FC—USA);
Midfielders: Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC), Alvin Jones (W Connection), Sean De Silva (Central FC), Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Kevin Molino (Orlando City—USA), Aikim Andrews (W Connection), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA), Jomal Williams (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Hashim Arcia (Defence Force), Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders—USA), Jomoul Francois (St Ann’s Rangers);
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Forwards: Willis Plaza (San Juan Jabloteh), Shahdon Winchester (Murcielagos FC—Mexico), Trevin Caesar (Orange County Blues—USA).
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Lasana Liburd is the managing director and chief editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.
So I have to type over all what I said before eh Mr. Live Wire eh hahahaha
Lol. Sorry. That shouldn’t have had its own thread. There was no need.
Well at least I am not the only one that does do that eh, David CB Smith really good yes hahaha
Lol. No worries. Those are essentially press releases. We usually use them in threads as additions rather than stand alone stories.
Ok then
Meh.
Buh A A how things David CB Smith looking forward to see you at the next football festival eh, that is if my dictator president doesn’t shut down our Wired Volley 868 eh. hahahahaha Them really good yes.
David, I’ve heard as well that the players have enjoyed the sessions so far.
That’s good to know Lasana.
David CB Smith: http://www.guardian.co.tt/sports/2016-12-19/soca-warriors-final-tweak
Listen to Tom Saintfiet try to explain again why he didn’t pick Kenwyne Jones:
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Pamo eh pass on the skills bobby.
Point taken but also you don’t go in any country and drop the captain without talking to him even if it’s to use him in some capacity,so many wrongs already deserving of being criticized even before the team plays
Yes in banana Republic T&T we do all sort of madness in Sports and similar to politicans , there is only talk. No one demands accountability nor transparency.
Please people..let’s give the coach a chance…we all like to coach and criticise…the coach has the final say…his reputation and job is on the line…Mr. Williams will not get fired if tnt losses….it is his choice who selects
Final say?!! Ha boi allyuh ova flikkin gullible lmao. Chance is fuh lotto. De moment dey install Shabazz was the moment they totally confirm dey on shit!
Most TT national teams should play uptempo to compensate for our lack of talent. Turn every game into a track meet to wear down opponents. We will never be able to compete against the best in the world strictly on talent, strategy has to be out go to game.
gotta be FIT first! F.I.T.
Exactly. You can improve fitness. Asking 1.2 million to compete against countries with 300 plus million people on the basis of talent is untenable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2450051/Harry-Redknapp-book-When-I-went-mad-Kenwyne-Jones.html
Kyon Esdelle there’s two sides to a story but my word lol. Then you watch how he was in the same squad as Bale and watch the difference in outcome.
Brian …. our current team isn’t very fit …so there us no way we could play that uptempo game in fact I feel that’s the main reason we struggle because after one half we’re done physically.
developing talent and skills has nothing to do with a country’s population ..tell that to the Lithuanians in basketball as opposed to the chines Russians or the french …..3 million Lithuanians?? vs 1billion and more chines with over 300 million registered basketball players …france and rusia over 65 million people
Point taken. The people we want to beat are both skilled and talented. We do not have enough quality coaches to produce a large number of quality players. China has only just begun its development programs. Their national team already has more seven footers than any I have seen. Skills can be taught but size and athleticism cannot, which is why NBA teams draft that and then teach skills. Will we ever produce a team bigger and stronger than the USA? No way. We have to maximize our strengths and compensate for our weaknesses. We are a small athletic people, we do not produce consistent size.
Real talk. Jones has been neutralized and has become ineffective.
Lasana Liburd when I said Mr Hart had lost the dressing room and that his tactics in the games was my only concern and my players were being robbed of an opportunity to have a realistic chance of making it to the World Cup,I am deeply saddened by the president choice of coach for T+T.
I have listened to his speech on his staff selection and his omission of KJ,he knows nothing about T+T football,and if he can re-assigned people that left and people who he really don’t know anything about,but on the other hand axe the captain of the team for failing to perform with another coach without giving everyone an equal assessment.
I speak as I see it,anyone with principle is not accepting a job for two games unless it’s a smoke screen ??
“I had a meeting with the coach and obviously that is not a squad that he picked so at the end of the day I wish the team all the best and I hope that they come out successful in the games coming up.” – KJ.
Now comes the staff list. I hope all you gullible JACKASSES that celebrating KJs omission celebrating the appointment of Shabazz, and Latas and the return of Babwah and Isaac. What some ah allyuh morons must not realize is KJ has grown up a lot and not partaking in no bullshit. No way this crap was happening and KJ (as captain) not be pissed and state as such which would completely undermine the hatchet job as well as clearly illuminate that Hart was set up to fail from the moment DJW took office. They eliminate the most vocal and respected member of the team so that they could run dey “ratchifee” unobstructed. Buh say wah, allyuh could dance and rejoice KJ get leave out. We go see if allyuh laughing after a few games smh!
Maybe part of the reason Hart persisted with KJ was to reward his loyaly and standing up to DJW et al….very intriguing….
Or maybe simply because he is our best forward. People who truly grasp football will easily see that throughout the world many managers deploy target men as they create balance. Looking at that list of forwards who can the keeper dump the ball to that will win aerial battles and flick on the ball? Who can collect and hold when our defense under pressure and boom kick up de road? Who can occupy 2 defenders even without the ball while a third is spying for when he actually has control of the ball? Who among them has the respect of all teammates? Any of them accomplish anything of note that would cause the younger players to at least be willing to listen to them?
Fair enough…build to persist with an strategy built around KJ when he wasn’t fully firing seems a bit counter-productive…..
I don’t think it was ever built around him though. If you think about when Hart took over they were knocking the ball around. KJ was facilitator as well as beneficiary in that system. There was more movement and fluidity which meant defenders couldn’t just simply shadow KJ all game. In recent times however there was less movement and the ball was mostly being played in our half. KJ can’t be in our half trying to defend and be an outlet at the same time. He also could not press the back line alone. So to the naked eye it looking like he lazy but his role as a lone striker would not allow for him to tire himself out chasing defenders while his teammates are 15 yards away. Once teams identified our danger men in jj and Molino they started squeezing them. Smart opponents will never let you play to your strengths. But with all that being said the biggest issue was still the defense. The concentration lapses lost us far more games than KJs goal drought.
conspiracy theory, they hire a foreigner to do their dirty work, this was in the planning stage long before the coach got here. T&T knows how to smash the dreams of youths (not Kenwyne, he knew early a clock to look for his bread and butter outside.like so many others) Ask Bravo brothers and other cricketers. SPORTS in T&T is politics and bacchanal.
Whaaaaaaaaaaat I’m really confused , you want speed or ‘running legs’, so you let go Kenwyne, but bring in 38 years old Carlos Edwards, Is this Comedy hour? what nonsense you feeding the T&t public?
Ameteur hour @ the Apollo or musse scouting fuh talent!
Lasana Liburd my only view of this team is that he will play 5 midfielders and a lone striker which in my opinion isn’t working for our team at present
I think the main problem isn’t upfront to begin with. It’s in the team’s defensive work.
For real also the conditioning of the players drop drastically in the last 30mins in the last 3 games we’ve played
Yeah. If there is an anonymous part of our attack, I’d quicker point to our right flank. Kenwyne was sub-par. But so were so many players. I wouldn’t dump him altogether so quickly unless I was replacing him with someone of similar stature
So in my view if the team is not physically fit which they should be they are lacking mental fitness to know how to conserve energy and let the ⚽️ do the majority of the work
Correct as l always say experience is needed and they should go with 2 strikers KJ9 and another speedy to make all the runs off the ⚽️ to free up KJ9
Jason Clavery kj cant even trap a ball properly, the play breaks down when it reaches by himm…lasana wants intelligent comments
Cornell Glen, join W nah man…
Cornell Glen is friends with the ex captain. Not sure he could get that spot
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Put yuh eyes back in yuh head and step out Mr Glen lol
Lasana any feasible??? There are certain strikers playing well in the pro league but like them get over looked coz they not on good terms with the big man and I don’t mean big TOM!!! What big TOM knows about TNT football in less than a week? Is all a fix this team
he plan on using a Gk and a defender 2 strike
Tom Saintfiet selected four goalkeepers, 10 defenders, 11 midfielders… but just three forwards!
Is it that he couldn’t find any other feasible names to put ahead of Kenwyne? :-/
It could mean that he uses a system that plays a lone striker.
Yet four goalkeepers eh Kern A. Spencer? Now tell me: If you have established goalkeepers but unestablished forwards, which one would you name more of to give you a safety net?
But my personal view is that our best striker was not chosen. Despite age I feel Cornell Glen is still light years better than all the youngsters we have at present
The 4 goalkeepers I don’t understand .
Three forwards is for your final squad Kern. I doubt you can show me any squad in the world that picks a provisional squad with just three strikers. Suppose one guy gets a tap on his ankle? We will go into the game with two?
As for the four goalkeepers… Jan-Michael better keep his head down and not even sneeze in practice!
hahahahahaha Yuh right about that because my dictator president will be looking for any reason to finally buss his throat eh the same like Mr. Bound not to score. Them really good yes.
I also found it curious that Latapy accepted a position as a junior to the new coach. One can only assume that either Latapy see it as an opportunity to grasp top position it he fails or he genuinely feels that he can learn something from the new coach as an understudy.
Wouldn’t it be really awkward with Jan and Terrance them back in the fold? I mean he publicly called them out too
Jan-Michael has to watch his back in that pit. The opposing strikers might be the least of his concerns. Lol. And Guyana is a step up from Bangladesh too, so I don’t think Shabazz is looking forward to learning much.
Maybe they are just genuinely lending a hand.
I’ve heard coaches speak of Otto Pfister like a bluffer and a joke. We just believe that any foreigner with a coaching badge must be mannah from heaven. We have to respect ourselves yes. Like Martin Daly said.
Beenhakker coached Real Madrid twice yet people comparing Saintfiet to him when all they have in common is they are both white and born in Europe. Angus Eve and Shawn Cooper might have more in common with Beenhakker than Saintfiet does for all I know.
They really wanna compare a man who only Zizou broke his win streak just now with Madrid to a man who coach Bangladesh???
Lasana, Lasana…wey Gordon…ah missing him =D =D =D
Hahaha. Gordon would have been on a rampage!
Ah wonder how much more time he has eh before he returns to wired eh, ah missing meh family the same, need some bacchanal here man hahahaha
Lol. The man start Wave so he’s branched out and soaring now. I have no problem with him personally and still don’t. Once he isn’t trying to shut down conversations then I am cool. But I could do without the extra work as a moderator.
Yeah he started his own thing eh, and nutten is wrong with that eh lol
What is Wave? He din invite me to the page
Lol. Your invite is in the mail I am sure. Maybe they are building the mystery 😉
I going to maco just now…you too Lasana, if he use TTPOST, I doh expect to receive any eh
Hhmm..it very yellow
Lasana, Lasana =D =D =D
Mail might be pro DJW …. personally I don’t expect an invitation lol ….. despite my obvious admiration for the lad lol
but anybody could have seen that it was a set up 2 fire hart that’s how that nasty shameless tyrant does do business fire hart and hire a cheap white piper
Well said
kendell I warn them people about him and sabko but as usual we like 2 learn things the hard way
What I could say is that when David John Williams and his band of clowns finish with football in this country we would take years to recover,trust me!
If fans had their way, Stern John would have been dropped from the 2006 World Cup qualifying series too eh… And that might have changed history.
Yuh mean … Mexico might’ve brought a 4th string team to play us instead ?
lol smh
hahahahaha Kirwin Weston yuh know some doh, doh, head trickydadians really felt it was Mexico first team that he scored a hat trick on eh. Them really good yes.
Comment of the day!
only dem two traitors shouldn’t be trusted in the corrupted TTFA eh Carlos Lee. Them really good yes
How he drop kenwin Jones and pick Cyrus he didn’t watch no film someone else picked this team,who have eyes could see this
How he drop kenwin Jones and pick Cyrus he did watch no film someone else picked this team,who have eyes could see this
cool
That coach is very disrespectful, Kenwyne Jones is a big player and at least he should be given a chance to prove himself first.
Saintfiet is an asshole.
Plain talk bad manners……
How much chances should he be given
Have him prove himself with this coach and it’s not about proving himself it’s about respect. But never the less the coach explain his reason.
And if so the coach is looking for speed, how come he didn’t include you ?
Your brother ….sorry
Was past tense
Unbelievable that they were brought back into the team. It was a great opportunity for a fresh start. Those two traitors should not be trusted.
The Physio Dave Isaacs and I were good friends at San Juan Sec. Ah mean I don’t know him as an adult but as a youth Dave was always an up and up guy. Disappointed
So was Sancho …people change …smh
Ah see the Doctor and Physio back lol… Set up…
All these big men behaving like children.
I hope Latapy don’t undermine him like he did to Maturana . I like the foreign GK coach option , I think our goalkeepers need that extra quality .
I don’t think the extra quality you are looking for will come as a result of the foreign GK coach.
Dem goalkeepers to old to learn anything further eh, my foreign base German GK Coach has to break them in from very young Them really good yes
Earl Mango Pierre Greg Ranjitsingh, the canadian based guy, good keeper, great potential, and plays with intelligence
Based on what Cheyenne? Just because he is foreign? We are not getting the Bayern Munich goalkeeper coach eh? The CV they sent showed he had one season at one second division German team and one at a third division german team.
Just because he is born in Germany and has a badge makes him better? You don’t think Michael Maurice could get a job in Germany if he had a German passport?
That’s like saying the editor at a village newspaper in Coventry is ‘bong’ to be a better writer than me. Lol.
Well I should have said I hope he’s more qualified than Maurice . I think sadly for Maurice his age has caught up to him and a change could be good for the goalkeeping core .
I don’t know enough about that to make a definitive statement either way Cheyenne.
What I do know is if you compare the CV of ANY coach on that staff including Tom Saintfiet with Michael Maurice, then Brow comes out better.
Not so?
Age has caught up with Maurice? ….he’s a coach…. not a player …. baseless statements ….. smh
Wake up call for KJ…pride at stake…
Is that official Shawn? Did coach not bring one assistant with him?
Yes.Jamal is temporary
Assistant Coach – Russell Latapy
Assistant Coach – Jamaal Shabazz (temporary)
Goalkeeper Coach – Jo Stock (German)
Physical Trainer – Riedoh Bierdien (South African)
Equipment Manager – Michael Williams
Doctor – Terence Babwah
Physiotherapist – Dave Isaac
Manager – Azaad Mohammed-Khan (interim until end of Gold Cup playoffs in January)
But wait didn’t my Prof Jamaal Shabazz said that he never wanted anything to do with being a Coach of our sweet country eh, look leh meh look for his own words when ah was chaining him up to be the Coach eh is real bacchanal here tonight. Them really good yes hahahahha
I hope Carlos Edwards replaces Daniel Cyrus who is a liability. I was watching Monday night Sports and Joevin Jones said he would not make it to the games. What about Bostock?
Assistance coaches the little magician and Jamal Shabazz. Jamal is temporary. Lasana Liburd
Like him or not his stats prove he is NOT a forward
What are his stats?
22 goals in 90 games for tnt
We underestimated this guy, I may begin to like him after all
About time
If they looking for speed ……. then who exactly is the speedy player picked to replace KJ? Is Cornel Glen getting a recall or are they gonna play Joevin Jones up top? Hate these questions but I’m not sure where this man heading …
Only correction is that Kenwyne always saw himself as a forward, just like his uncle Philbert Jones. Many national coaches from Rene Simoes and Bertille St Clair come up tried to convince him to play elsewhere.
Other than that I agree that fans should show him more respect.
I stand corrected. From what I have heard over the years when I say this guy is not a forward, people keep telling me he used to be a defender so I assumed It was coaches who tried to turn him into one.
He learnt the game as a defender..
It was the opposite Gerard. There’s a famous story I heard before our first World Cup game against Sweden when Beenhakker decided that Marvin Andrews’ knee wouldn’t hold. And he used Kenwyne as a first choice central defender in training.
Not only was Sancho horrified to slip down the pecking order, Kenwyne was unhappy too that he might end up being stuck in defence!
In the end, Beenhakker decided there wasn’t enough time to get him ready for there and that it was too much of a risk to play a man out of position in a game of that magnitude.
I think that is the last time a coach considered that. In a year or two he became a Premiership forward, Stern John began to decline and that was that.
But Lasana Liburd wasn’t he a defender on the U17 world cup team?
Ian, he went up as a forward. Simoes put him in the back. Or it might have been Onigbinde. But he did not try out as a defender.
Lol so coaches have been telling him all the time and he decided otherwise. Good for him. Stick to your convictions. #capitan
He was a defender in the u17 world cup
But he didn’t go up as a defender Basil. He went up as a striker.
Oh ok. Noted
You can not drop jones…..he is better than any other forward players on the team
Well he did n thank god he did!!!
Dropping jones is a big mistake
It is time Kenwyn Jones work for his pick. No one is above the team. I will be there for the next game
There’s one more important thing needs to be said. We can analyze/criticize Kenwyne. That’s fair game. But do we have to be mean? He seems to be a nice guy who throughout his career has been asked to play a position for which he is unsuited. He lacks the instincts of a forward, the biggest one of all is anticipation. Every coach because of his physique thought they would be the one to turn around his game. It’s not going to happen. But we don’t have to be mean to a nice guy who I have never heard say one lousy thing about the way we fans have treated him. Cut him some slack guys.
It comes with the territory…pong him…as we Trinis say…pong him hard….he is d Captain and we demand more from him….but i understand and fully agree…there is no need to be mean…i saw him train in the National stadium….he can do better if he changes his training ethics….work harder in training
Three W Connection midfielders who could not match the work rate of central FC the other night. None of them outworked they man or won they individual battle but what do I know.
“Leadership must be changed when there is a problem, and most certainly there was a problem with the leadership from a captain who didn’t have a clue about what he was doing and was only selected because he was the most senior person on the team”…Them really good yes.
TOM has won over thousands of trinis, by removing that excess baggage (KJ) from our national team
Lol..you doh mince your words at all eh
You sure right i dont ??
Lasana Liburd and Brian Jordan. You folks have argued that this team lacks leadership and if only for that reason Kenwyne should have been selected. That’s as circular an argument as you will find. Kenwyne was on the team and he was captain. So if the team lacked leadership and Kenwyne was the captain of the team, why would you keep Kenwyne for leadership?
It’s an understated quality which always helps in the locker room. Always remember, things can be worse Gerard..
Brian Jordan I don’t think you understand my argument. The person you want to keep on the team for leadership is the person who was the leader of the team you and Lasana say lacked leadership. It’s the classic circular argument.