You don’t earn a reputation as one of the most feared batsmen in the manic-paced 20/20 cricket arena by measured and judicious stroke play. And when the people writing your cheques see it fit to name their enterprise the “Big Bash”, a sorta adventurous, free-spirited nature is implied.
Boy did Chris Gayle ever read the conditions wrong when an attractive Channel Ten reporter, Mel McLaughlin, came walking over for a brief interview with the Melbourne Renegades and West Indies cricket star.
“Your eyes are beautiful, hopefully we can win this game,” Gayle told McLaughlin, “and then we can have a drink after as well. Don’t blush, baby.”
It was hard to tell whether Gayle—who is 36 years old going on 15—was channelling his inner-Tiger or bootlegging Austin Powers. Either way, his swipe outside the off stump hit only air.
“I’m not blushing,” McLaughlin retorted.
And she really meant it.
It was as sad as seeing a three-year-old child try to tie his own shoelaces. Or watching Jack Warner try to pronounce: “electricity.” Or “extradition.”
Anthony Everard, the head of the Big Bash League, described Gayle’s comments as: “disrespectful and simply inappropriate.”
Melbourne Renegades CEO Stuart Coventry vowed to discuss the matter with Gayle and Cricket Australia and warned that: “There’s just no place for that sort of behaviour.”
Everard pointedly noted that the Big Bash was: “all about its appeal to kids, families and females.” Translation: we have no intention of messing with our ratings.
The Daily Mail, never one to miss an opportunity for moral outrage when it isn’t spying on celebrities and rummaging through voice messages left with the families of kidnapped victims, referred to the West Indian’s interview as: “sleazy.”
And what does Mr Live Wire think?
First, McLaughlin deserves the opportunity to get through her work day in peace without having to bat away unwanted advances. And she probably will once she crosses 50.
Second, the lightbulb that flashed over Gayle’s head as he produced his pick-up line was clearly on dim voltage. But then it must be hard to tell whether you are truly funny, handsome and charming when your bank balance has seven digits.
Gayle, sorry pal, but you are less (Morris) Chestnut and more Forest (Whitaker). And that can limit your options in terms of the women who blush at your advances.
Third, Gayle did not insult, grope or intimidate McLaughlin. He was simply childish, cocky and stupid. So perhaps the penalty should match the crime.
And, chances are when you have a microphone thrust at you as often as sport stars do, you will sometimes say some really stupid things.
Male reporter (in post-game press conference): “How long does it take you to get over the disappointment (of a loss)?”
Russian professional tennis star Maria Sharapova: “There is so much of good self-esteem when you speak. It is really nice… What was the question? I was just admiring your form.”
Chances are that if McLaughlin wants to take a stance against sexism in the workplace, she would not have to look as far as the Caribbean.
Channel Ten’s first response to Gayle was a slap on the back and, far from a private snicker, they shared the joke with the embarrassed television host and the rest of the world.
Channel Ten tweet: “Gayle to @Mel_Mclaughlin: ‘Hopefully we can win this game & have a drink after. Don’t blush baby’ #smooth #BBLO5.”
It took another 10 minutes before Channel Ten’s social media manager recognised that maybe their employee wasn’t there as “eye food”, although the station still opted against rebuking the cricketer.
“Well played to our very own @Mel_Mclaughlin for staying professional during the interview. What a pro…”
Mr Live Wire does not want to cast aspersions but he has noticed over the years that, apart from the odd ex-world champion, female sport reporters at television stations tend to be strikingly attractive and generally blonde.
It is as though Tiger Woods hires them himself.
Whereas male reporters…
With all due respect to the gentlemen pictured above—who Mr Live Wire has the pleasure of all knowing professionally—none would probably reduce Serena Williams to a lustful, incoherent mess during a television interview. And, thankfully, we do not generally expect our male reporters to possess such powers.
The elephant in the room when it comes to the hiring of female reporters, so to speak, is a fox.
Which is not to say Gayle doesn’t deserve to be castigated for failing to read the wicket.
Sadly, poor Chris seems to be a relic from a bygone era who has struggled to come to grips with the 21st century and simply stands out like a sore thumb in progressive company.
Just like the West Indies cricket team.
Editor’s Note: Chris Gayle subsequently apologised for his “simple joke” that was “blown way out of proportion.” Which sounded surprisingly close to Gayle saying: “you idiots just don’t get it.”
And Gayle was sweet enough to give his regrets to Mel McLaughlin with a sentence that included the word “if.” Awww… His apologies are as bad as his pick-up lines. But at least he patronised us.
(Full Chris Gayle “apology”)
“A lot of things have flared up from a simple comment, a joke, a simple joke on air and it seemed to went out of proportion.
“There wasn’t anything at all meant to be disrespectful or offensive to Mel and if she felt that way I’m really sorry for that.
“There wasn’t any harm meant in that particular way to any particular person like that.
“It was a simple joke, the game was going on. Entertainment, things get out of proportion but these things do happen.
“There wasn’t any harm done, I’ll leave it at that. I’m sorry for that, we’ll have to move on.”
Incidentally, former Australia World Cup and Everton footballer Tim Cahill and British television personality Piers Morgan both “get it” as evidenced by their tweets on the matter.
Hahaha. Well, Melina. He will consider his wallet at least. He doesn’t care what anyone thinks. But as a 36 year old athlete, he will care about his ability to earn a dollar.
He hasn’t learnt a thing.
He has learned an expensive lesson. Even though he still doesn’t really get it.
Keith, I will put this in the grinder. We have so many Gayle threads: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3385214/The-Beauty-Tax-Corrine-Barraclough-speak-Chris-Gayle-Mel-McLaughlin-incident.html?ito=social-facebook
..Cool..
Wonderful wonderful article
I hasten to add that my posting that article is not an endorsement. Lol.
If attractive women must learn to be good natured about unwanted advances, does that mean ugly women should also know their place and keep their expectations low? Lol.
while we talking about this Tell Danny Morrisson do not come and wine on the Digicel
girls for the CPL eh hypocries!!
Wiping the floor with him has begun. At this rate they might just revoke his passport. Heck call Chris Cosby for that matter. I get that the guys comments were out of place, but how quickly the world has traded his contribution to the sport for it.
He simply overstepped the mark. All his shenanigans behind closed doors are now coming out where it was private before
I agree with you but whether we like it or not, it’s his private life. I want to see if big Bash will now have no ceiling mirrors and poles in the bedroom as prerequisites for being accepted in the league.
Exactly! His private life remained private until he chose to bring in to the public
I covered West Indies tour of England in 2005.
I remember Viv telling me that more than one venue complained that the West Indies players were harassing the tea ladies. They used to dread having to interact with the players. And Chris Gayle was leading that queue.
Viv was furious and said he personally spoke to Gayle about his behavior. I think that was Bravo’s first overseas tour.
We were whitewashed in that series.
Holding, Bishop, Fazeer and Cozier were the other Caribbean reporters there.
Let’s see if any Caribbean cricket reporter with any knowledge of these players’ behavior supports Gayle.
It is unfortunate to me that Gayle is getting mixed messages now.
Gayle getting mixed messages? From WHO? is there a mystery woman thats sending him mixed messages?
I doubt any one of those four will support him. If anyone I expected to is Viv…but he hasnt.
Ravi, there are many people who believe he did nothing wrong and are happy to say it is Gayle being himself. As such, he isn’t being asked to do a self-examination.
See, when I look at the Andy Rodick clip from the Davis cup where he was embarrassed by his team mates and the way in which Gayle expressed his interest, there is a clear difference in delivering the message.
Gayle being himself could only happen in the West Indies because it is WHO WE ARE. Yuh think yuh could go and soot ah ting in time square and have it be accepted?
The saga continues.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/big-bash-league-2016-chris-gayle-set-to-be-banned-from-playing-in-future-bbl-tournaments/story-e6frf3g3-1227699914394
And the backlash continues:
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/chris-gayle-never-to-return-to-big-bash-league-and-current-contract-could-still-be-ripped-up/story-fnp050m0-1227699745176
And Chris will leave thinking this was all everyone else’s fault. Poor misguided fellah.
Well let’s see if there is merit to the claim that he exposed himself which is completely inappropriate.
I seem to recall reading an article a long time ago about female repoters entering locker rooms after the game when players were showering etc. The discussion had to do with whether they should have to be exposed to nudity and the counterpoint was that male reporters experienced the same thing and that if you entered a locker room under those circumstances, that’s what you will encounter. I cannot recall the magazine or the year unfortunately.
For me, the locker room is the athletes’ personal space. So to be honest, I couldn’t quite understand why she went there for a sandwich.
Not that it excuses Gayle’s alleged reaction.
Isn’t that where the sandwiches are kept Lasana? What’s hard to understand? 🙂
All who disagree with me I guess we have to agree to disagree.. We all have different opinions.. Good thread..
…we live in a world where women’s consent to men’s sexual advances is less important than men’s freedom to make those advances when, where and how they choose. Women all over the world, en masse, can attest to repeated, unwanted sexual advances they have experienced, from strangers on the street to those they know. In the end, shame and responsibility isn’t shouldered by those who roughshod over the boundary of respect, but by many women who then check themselves in an attempt to prevent it from happening again.
https://grrlscene.wordpress.com/2016/01/06/diary-of-a-mothering-worker-january-5-2015/?fb_action_ids=10153848289550818&fb_action_types=news.publishes
By definition, if Mel flirts back then it obviously isn’t harassment. Even though it could still be inappropriate.
Harassment is when you pursue a particular line irrespective of the discomfort and unwillingness to participate of the target.
The male journalist participated. Mel cringed.
Lasana.. That post from the guy Muwakil…though laden with impressive points has crap in it as well..
Lasana.. I posted that video with Sharapova not to say she did it as well so it’s ok but to show its a complete non issue and not worthy of this huge public outcry.. He is Jamaican and would more than likely have quite thick skin..The person directly involved was the girl Mel.. She obviously isn’t attracted to Gayle so she ignored him.. If she flirted back I wonder if anyone would’ve said anything. I continue to go on about this world we now live in.. “Incidents” like this shows it’s a farcical world in so many respects.. I’m personally gutted Gayle apologised but I guess he want to play for a few more years so he is wary of losing a few millions.. Consider her blushing when Dwayne flirted with her last year.. This whole criticism of Gayle is just plain ridiculous..
Yuh cud take the ass outta the country… but he remains ah ass
Whoa….!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3386774/Chris-Gayle-banned-Big-Bash-League-Mel-McLaughlin-interview.html
Profile post from Muhammad Muwakil:
“I am a man. I was raised by a family that taught me how to address people in a variety of settings. Every black man by necessity needs be a diplomat, you can cry about it and say the world is unfair and white men can do what they want why can’t I? Man up and realize that we are in a war for ourselves and you need to watch your behavior and not get comfortable.
You in the house yea but don’t for a second think you so good with them that you can kick up your boots on the couch. Yes the world is over reacting had this been a white player I doubt it would have been such a scene, (there is a video of a white south African player hoisting a black model dressed as a hummingbird into the air, had she expressed discomfort idk if it would have been taken as seriously) , as a human yes he should apologize to that girl I stand by that. As a black man however, king you need to behave like a king, I’m not joining into the circle of those who are saying that it was innocent, saying it was innocent reduces the value of our innocence to a murky place, do better.
We can sit here and argue about the way the world is all day or we can make some steps to radically adjust our position and understanding of how to behave when and where. Do not for one moment forget that we are only still just a few decades from the “fall” of apartheid and Jim crow in the great American south.
Stop being surprised at what centuries of conditioning has done to our collective psyche, see the truth and adjust your living to make it a better place. That means respect everyone, if a man wants to ask a woman out there is a way to do that and that way does not stem from a sense of entitlement. I find we not being real about it, we all know the tone Gayle used, we from the Caribbean, those of us who don’t use the tone hate this tone, it is the tone of your bredren who hits on the waitress in Ruby Tuesday’s for the entire course of her service, the tone of the brother next to you on the maxi boiling off the ears of a clearly uncomfortable smallie next to him, this tone has been making decent ppl cringe for as long as there has been decency. I digress.
We all know what the world gives and even when it changes one day, sitting on a bench around the savannah cat calling women will always make me sick, white black or otherwise, man up and know how to behave. Like I need to resurrect my grandfather to teach alyuh ass about decorum.”
Rubbish rubbish rubbish especially from young black freedom fighter shows how far mental chain reach!! The whole world celebrates west
indian dancing celebratations stroke play all was not acceptable before the same thing with carinval he accustom making silly comments and it being accepted!! Gayle did nonesene but this uproar is rubbish
This is what rubbish really is!
Let’s just put it this way…if it was one of my sons he would not have behaved like CG, and if it was one of my daughters she would have put him firmly in his place for his disrespectful and unprofessional comments. He is lucky that Ms. McLaughlin handled it gently.
At the end of it all, if you are making someone uncomfortable when you do not have to, when it does not pertain to the very fact of your existence, when you eh go fockin dead if you shut up, the problem is with you.
https://medium.com/@Zapathy/leff-meh-harassment-and-the-myth-of-the-benevolent-male-gaze-d13c04f2d4bc#.qu60fwk7h
Actually I’m not sure what I think about this situation ATM ha. As i mentioned earlier i accept all the criticism (especially from women) that Gayle was a bit out of order – as much as I agree with Mr Jack’s recent comments.
Colin, you all really seem to believe that Sharapova flirting with a reporter somehow puts Chris Gayle in the clear. And you are holding on with a death grip.
All I can say is that “he/she did it too” has never been a convenient excuse since the beginning of time.
But I feel we have all ventilated our positions are well as we are going to on this one.
Is ah PNM/UNC mentality. He/she did it excuse. Sickens me.
Many would be surprised at what goes on between many attractive media interviewers and their testosterone laden subjects, such as moguls, politicians, or athletes, after the lights, cameras and microphones are turned off.
In the end they are all just lusty humans in their prime.
Colin.. I was looking for that exact video to post.. That’s why I’ve found this witch hunt on Chris diabolical.. To me again he did nothing wrong..
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/tennis/video/watch/20906805/sharapova-flirts-with-aussie-journo/
Seriously the people have moved on so y are people still on this topic smh. Personally I didn’t really see the disrespect in it if the man say your eyes beautiful y should that offend u. Steupes
Mr. Live Wire – This is by far the best presentation on this topic. Thank you!! #youlaiditout #Isaynomore
Nuala Hafner……….Maria sharapova ……. Chris Gayle……….all flirted. 6 of 1 half a dozen of the next. Society is just hypocritical.
I wonder if Chris Gayle was a different colour and came right out of a GQ magazine, would she have responded the way she did? (reporter)
This is a response to the way Chris was treated! He was inappropriate, but weren’t they all????
Exactly Orrelia.
Has anyone taken a look at this woman’s eyes though they are really stunning. But he was outta timing though.
apologies for typos…
Yes Lasana Chris’s comments and Sharpova’s are very similar.. She is clearly flirting with the male reporter.. I remember when it happened and there was virtually no criticism regarding her supposed “inappropriateness”; nor should there have been. There was nothing wrong with what she said. I maintain Chris did absolutely nothing wrong.. Is there a bit of racism because it’s a black man? Quite possibly.. there are many stunning examples of blatant racism in Australia.. I’ve been reading many blogs on this topic and it’s sensationalist it’s ridiculous. so many women talking about how uneasy and intimidating they feel around male counterparts and comments that are made to them.. Of course some men can be very inappropriate but for Gayle to be viewed as some disrespectful guy towards women because he made a pass on a lady defies logic. he got knock back and quite rightfully so.. His pick up lines were mediocre! Lol.. But as I mentioned in an earlier post. We live in a world where one has to be so mindful of what they say.. It makes me wonder if I’m living in North Korea and if the politically correct thing isn’t said one will be executed. GAylesford apologised because he has money to make. But you can see he didn’t want to.. there was zero possibility of me apologising for a trivial non issue that was made a issue by others.. Lasana .. I could on and on regarding issues like this and others of a similar nature..
Yeah. It was ah big miss…
The registry office at WASA ,St.Joseph burning all kind of evidence and people studying Gayle.Chut,man !!
I had to stop reading comess in order for me to finish painting my house. Enough of that pappy.
leave him alone in his dotishness ,you say.We are now learning of his history of disrespectful behaviour.
Lance I just came of the ladder from painting. All yuh don’t understand when I say to leave the man alone. Stop
Stephen Dowridge,yuh read bout yuh loverboy gail.Today when asked about the lady’s allegation,manager Richie Richardson said he was not prepared to comment .
Chris Gayle exposed himself to me: woman
Date
January 5, 2016 – 10:39PM
Chloe Saltau and Chris Barrett
Exclusive
Cricketer Chris Gayle, already facing a barrage of criticism over inappropriate remarks to a female television reporter, allegedly indecently exposed himself to a woman during a Sydney training session at last year’s World Cup.
The Australian woman, who was working around the West Indies team in Sydney, has detailed the incident to Fairfax Media. In the course of her work she entered the team dressing room to get a sandwich as she hadn’t eaten all day, thinking the players were on the field training.
Instead, she found Gayle in the room with one other player. Gayle was wrapped in a towel, which she says he pulled down to partially expose his genitals to her while saying to her: “Are you looking for this?”
It is understood West Indies team manager Richie Richardson was told about the incident, but Gayle was not named. Richardson then sent an email to all West Indies players demanding women working around the team be treated with respect.
https://www.google.tt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjtzveh2ZPKAhVFZCYKHR2KBuEQqQIIGzAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fsport%2Fcricket%2Fchris-gayle-exposed-himself-to-me-woman-20160105-glzrkp.html&usg=AFQjCNGs7lpJFqEjC75wY6oPCN3WRXmLOw&bvm=bv.110151844,d.eWE
As a west Indian he should have more off the field game than that sigh
It’s cringe-worthy!
trolling this chick seems to be a thing:
Dennis….what more can there be? The man tusty rusty behaviour was on LIVE TV….he made an ass of himself all by himself..why would anybody stand with him to be castigated as well?
let’s be REAL100 here: WHO thinks Gayle tries to score like that?
I mean WHO? Come nah man…even a broken watch gets the time right twice a day—Gayle get’s up in some p***y yaw! Come on! Give the man some credit—IFFF he was sincerly trying to score with Mel, he wouldnt have done THAT crash & burn show.
Chris Gayle has proven himself time and time again to not be the shiniest apple in the basket. This is just in keeping with said dullness
really? he’s shown you his A-Game and you’ve determined that he would’ve been stumped?
his IG feed seems to tell a different story….lotta white chicks seem to disagree
and even if he wasn’t trying to score….what support should he have gotten from his club for making an ass of himself all by his lonesome? Is it that you think he took a bet? was he drunk? what exactly about what he did do you think warrants his club’s support?
i think he either took a bet or a dare, yes.
and no, i dont think the club needed to support him. but their handling of the situation pandered to the social media backlash than to the real issues here: if it’s sexism then there’s an equal case for racism
Dennis….if he did take a dare or made a bet he is even more dull than I originally suspected…and If you genuinely believe that’s what happened you may have lots more in common with him that you know
hahahahah
taking potshots at me wouldn’t change the issue here.
correct…and no matter how you try to dress it up or down …he was inappropriate all by himself…..made an ass of himself by himself..so should stand the consequences of his actions by himself
One: Don’t waste the race card on Chris Gayle. We will really need it later.
Two: There is a difference between groupies and women. Whatever lure Gayle has for groupies is irrelevant in the company of women.
and on another note…the only “game” I’m ever going to be interested of his is the one one the cricket pitch
nah man.
if was a white player that “gaffe” would have got downplayed.
easy to say that here. but then…i don’t recall him offering you a knock either…
hear nah Lasana Liburd…I never understand how may people cannot tell the distinction between groupies and real women yuh know!!! #whefadda
Dennis….is your slip showing…are you secretly a groupie? me hopes not!!!
me? no. but then i’ve never had to ask…soo…
it is so sad that people believe that once a man has money and/or fame all women secretly wish to be their object of interest… #vomits
well, now he has $900k JAM less so that should make him .0001% less attractive.
or 2 teaspoons of vomit
Dennis dear…try to expand your pond…you’d be quite surprised there is a whole heap of women out here not remotely interested in men for financial gain…..he who knows not, knows not that he knows not……..
When I was closer to the age of the national football players and I was living in Britain, I partied with several of them already. It isn’t what you think Dennis.
A man who would have groupies falling over him in the city where he plays would be totally scorned and ignored in a nearby city. And many players barely knew how to even approach women. Even the good looking ones.
Chris having women on his instagram photos really doesn’t make him a smooth player at all. If Kevin Pieterson or so walked in that room, you might surprised to see how quick they abandoned ship.
Groupies are only ever interested in the biggest name they can get on the day. That’s it.
Let Zlatan poke his head in the door and see how many of those groupies remained to cuddle Chris. Lol. Groupies don’t count.
before i get nasty…lemme see if i understand your beef here:
you disagree wit me so therefore Gayle is unattractive (even though he clearly plies his trade in another league) and therefore i’m what? iggnant? lol
let me put this into context:
Gayle would have to be drunk to even allow you to interview him—far less to hit up on you. so you have no idea what’s going on here. that small pond you see me floundering in? it too is out of your depth because it’s cause of chicks that look like you is the reason i stopped drinking. i don’t even wanna make that mistake if i was drunk
Lasana Liburd i’ve partied with Lara, Ato, Dwight, Latas, Bravos…and i don’t doubt one word of that.
however, even Gayle ain’t so tust as to depend on that vup to score there. come on. give the man some credit
LOL…Dennis dear….it would appear you seem to think I put some stock in your opinion of me? And how did it get to looks…I mentioned money and fame…it seems I may have touched a nerve..hahahahahahaaaaaaa
but even the tusiest wetman knows the difference between groupie and an intervie…ok…lemme withdraw that statement…lol
tusts does make ah man do things…
That “chicks that look like you” comment was way out of line. Can’t we discuss and disagree without being disrespectful?
That “chicks that look like you” comment was way out of line. Can’t we discuss and disagree without being disrespectful?
But then again how my upbringing is set up looks mean zero to me, but we all weren’t raised right so I can let that slide easily
That he made silly comments before isn’t a defence Gordon. There is possibly a racial undertone. Maybe.
But let’s not waste the race card on this nonsense please when the man clearly was inappropriate.
Maria stopped at the compliment in the clip that Kelvin played. Gayle went from the compliment, to the request for a date to, grand finale, #dontblushbaby.
Gawd ah shame oui
Lasana Liburd i was trying not to say anything but ppl going to far!!! The man did nonesense but he have made silly comments before!! For this to b trending we have to look at the real big picture!! The big black ulgy man have no right to chat up the pretty white report Cahill kiss was more appropiate!!!
Oh bacchanal
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35233732?ns_mchannel=email&ns_source=inxmail_newsletter&ns_campaign=bbcnewsmagazine_news__&ns_linkname=na&ns_fee=0
Gayle’s team hugh him out to dry. i’m pretty sure this issue has more to it than what’s being reported. when that comes out…then what? man still out the better part of a million JAM dollars
Trust me I fully know for sure where I am. Jesus forgive so who are we please
I trust no man Stephen dowridge and you aren’t helping to change my mind either.
Iike Gayle I wouldn’t try to change your mind. I respect your opinion but you don’t have to respect mine. Leave Gayle alone
Lance never said anything about the issue of forgiveness. Just that he is surprised that people see no problem here.
Leave Gayle alone
Jesus Christ leave Gayle and stop harping on nonsense
this fella have issues boy.
Amen
Issue: there are a lot of hungry children in our society who needs our help. There are children as I speak whom are being sexually abused and needs our urgent help,what are we doing about them. There are families in our society without a meal and Xmas is over ,how can we help them???
We can start by exhibiting respectful and courteous behaviour towards each other.
Lol I hope the govt is respectful and courteous enough to pay public servants our money this year.
”govt,public servants ,money this year”?????????
So we shouldn’t discuss Gayle’s bad behaviour and presumably no one else’s until children are no longer being sexually abused?
I don’t think I will follow down this particular road.
That persons see no problem with this,tells me where we are at as a society.
Lasana, I think the point of Kelvin’s Sharapova clip is to demonstrate a level of double standards. If one is condemning an action of one, it should apply to all. Even in court one must be fair, unbiased and clear. Gayle was not as professional as he should have been. More tact was needed. Sharapova had more tact.
It is impossible to create a perfect comparison between the two. I have no problem with someone raising it. But the only way the Sharapova clip helps Gayle is if she was playing for Melbourne Renegades at the time and the club decided not to take action.
Otherwise, it isn’t as relevant as some people seem to think.
There is a wider debate we can have about sexism as relates to male and female athletes. Sure. But that has little impact on Gayle’s own issues and wrongdoing.
And that’s why some people should never ever have a mike in their face …
To say it is the same thing Kelvin is to say that one pick up line is the same as the other. And that isn’t necessarily true.
He clearly made the woman uncomfortable. And, at that point, he is wrong. Because nobody should be made to feel uncomfortable in that manner while just doing their job.
It was all about him and he couldn’t care less what she thought or how she felt. And now he has a huge fine coming.
Yes, everyone has flirted before and not all went well. But we have all got to know where the line is. And he didn’t. And he still doesn’t even appreciate that there is a line.
Well given his penchant for hitting sixes. We already knew he could care less about boundaries.
So the fact that the pick up line was bad makes a difference Lasana? I am not sure that I understand what you are saying and why the Sharapova incident is different.
I can give you different examples of pick up lines and you would surely be able to tell the difference Kendall. But Maria flirted with a male reporter who responded playfully and positively. She then went on to further compliment him.
Chris Gayle flirted and was ignored and the recipient stiffened.
He went on to further chat her up and ask her out and, with the woman still as stiff as a board, suggested that she was blushing at his advances.
You really see that and Maria’s flirtatious press conference as the same thing? For starters, Chris’ behaviour was obnoxious. Just for starters.
I thought the issue was that it ws inappropriate to flirt with the reporter who was doing their job. What you are saying is that because he did it badly and he didn’t succeed, his incident was different.
I think that you are wrong. It’s either that flirting with the reporter is wrong or it isn’t. It cannot be wrong because it went badly. If it is unprofessional to flirt with the reporter on air, Sharapova should have been treated the same way and fined. Or are you saying that if Gayle had a better line and got through, it would have been fine?
One person’s playful is another person’s sexual harassment. There is a right and wrong way to do anything.
But we live in a world where everybody feels there is no such thing as right and wrong. Everything goes.
At your age, I know you saw respectful pick up lines as well as gross and disrespectful ones Kendall. I really don’t think I need to give examples.
And it has nothing to do with “if he get through.” It has everything to do with the situation and the respect shown for the other party.
So if that’s the case, shouldn’t we treat the Sharapova incident with the same disapproval?
I think I said repeatedly why I think it is different Kendall. So my answer is no.
Ok. I think we either agree that flirting with the reporter is wrong or it isn’t. How badly the flirting is done irrelevant. It cannot be that it is inappropriate only if the person doesn’t react positively. That’s my take so we are opposite sides on this issue.
It was inappropriate in both cases. But in Gayle’s situation, it also constituted harassment in my opinion Kendall. And that makes it worse.
But we agree to disagree.
By now, lots of people have posted links to a multitude of stars acting inappropriately to reporters in various threads. I do not recall any of those incidents leading to the backlash that has followed this which makes me wonder why he is being vilified.
Well, there will be a heavy cost for him staying true to himself.
Lasana.. The clip was not a way to Justify Chris’ supposed inappropriate comments.. The clip was to show a female sportsperson doing the same thing and it’s a non issue. Non issue is the important phrase here.. It’s a bit of flirting, a bit of banter; harmless fun.. But many are quick to condemn Chris.. It’s just ridiculous in my opinion.. The lady wasn’t interested so she blanked him.. End of story.. All these people.. Coming out and criticising the guy, in my opinion, are seriously nitpicking and sensationalising the whole thing.. This politically correct world we live in is created by a select few,, the supposed lawmakers.. And if you don’t sign up to some of their rubbish ideals there is something wrong with you.. The guy did nothing wrong in my opinion.
Strong point Mr Jack – agree with this as much as I agreed with earlier point from a female poster
Well now seeing how the Australia media followed up & made a joke with the male Journalist who Sharapova flirted with – this makes your point even stronger mr jack hmmm
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/tennis/video/watch/20906805/sharapova-flirts-with-aussie-journo/