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A makeshift Trinidad and Tobago Women’s National Senior Team suffered their worst defeat in 15 years and a joint all-time record loss tonight, as they were mauled 11-0 by hosts Brazil in the Natal 2015 Female International Tournament.
(Copyright UK Telegraph)
The “Women Soca Warriors” faced Brazil, who were eliminated in the Canada 2015 World Cup’s Round of 16, with a largely second string squad, due to a clash of schedules that meant head coach Randy Waldrum and the majority of his first team are in San Antonio preparing to face the United States tomorrow.
New Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams opted to fly a squad to Brazil anyway with all expenses paid by the host nation.
And Waldrum and John-Williams explained that the exposure and match practise could only benefit the Women Warriors, who were led by playmaker Maylee Attin-Johnson following the latter’s recent return to the international game.
But the Trinidad and Tobago women received a savage spanking as 29 year old Brazil star Marta, one of the game’s all-time greats and a Sweden-based professional, scored five times to take her international tally to an astonishing 98 goals from 100 appearances as the hosts ran riot.
Trinidad and Tobago had not been on the receiving end of such a lopsided scoreline since the 2000 CONCACAF Gold Cup when the women in red, black and white strip fell to back to back 11-0 losses against the United States and Brazil in the space of 48 hours.
Marta scored five times tonight as Brazil routed Trinidad and Tobago 11-0.
None of the current Women Warriors played in the 2000 Gold Cup.
Waldrum and his squad should be anxious to return some gloss to the image of Trinidad and Tobago’s international women programme tomorrow, when defender Arin King and her teammates face reigning FIFA World Cup champs, the United States, from 10 pm (TT time) in San Antonio.
Trinidad and Tobago stand-in head coach Anthony Creece said, predictably, Brazil was just too much for his charges.
“We knew it was going to be very tough for us in the first game,” Creece told TTFA Media. “Brazil came out strongly and they never allowed us to settle. Our players were eager to do well but Brazil, at home, proved to be just too much and they dominated the game in large parts.
“We just have to pick ourselves up and get ready for the next game against Canada.”
Creece suggested the mauling might help the Women Warriors in the long run.
(Courtesy TTFA Media)
“I think it would be a valuable experience for a lot of the players on this team and hopefully they can come back strongly,” said Creece. “No player likes to go down this heavily. We didn’t have much on the bench neither but we’ll lick our wounds and come back for the next game looking to make improvements.
“The bigger picture is obviously the Olympic qualifiers next year and the players here in Natal will be looking to keep building towards getting selected and doing well in the competition next year.”
T&T’s next game will be against Canada on Sunday evening at the Arena das Dunas.
Natal 2015 Female International Tournament
(Wednesday December 10)
Brazil 11 (Marta 10, 28, 30, 52, 58, Beatriz 33, 55, 64, Debinha 48, Raquel 70, Rilany 79), Trinidad and Tobago 0 in Natal;
Canada 3, Mexico 0 in Natal.
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Brazil tho. They probably sent their backup team. Haha
The bad or maybe good thing is that was Brazil full strength team. I actually thought they would get more. So compared to how prolific Brazil is in front of goal against Top 10 opponents, a make-shift second and third string T&T team did well.
Was it volleyball ok ice hockey
better luck next time?.
Wow ….. tnt girls have real work to do
Why do they even try. Bed u can not beat them in a whinning contest in a fete
I’m just responding in defense of flying frisbees.
but when I say things people say I am biased but I am simply stating the facts and the truth regardless of how I feel personally
well said I was the 1st 2 say it was the move of our dumbass ttfa president but men jump up and say give him time. time 4 what anybody with half a brain could see this was a disaster waiting 2 happen
Ok. I’ll say it since nobody else wants to.
The decision to go to this tournament was about the pride of the new administration and not the well being of the team.
I am flabbergasted by all the defence of this myopic and nonsensical decision.
This has nothing to do with giving the new president and his administration time. The man championed his administrative prowess with W Connection as the biggest plus for giving him the leadership post of the TTFA and this is the result of the first decision of his executive?
Y’all must be fair. If Tim Kee had done this bullshit everybody would have been up in arms but it’s a different reaction because it’s John-Williams? Y’all be serious.
It was a ridiculous decision to go to this tournament.
Lambs to the slaughter and the administration is so damn disrespectful that they send the team with no sort of medical personnel?
The administration thought they would look good by agreeing to this tournament and that’s why it was agreed to. No other reason. They don’t give two flying frisbees about these women as evidenced by the lack of support they offered.
Everybody is big here. We all know that decisions have to be made. You cannot be up in every single thing. It is outrageous that the women’s team was put in this position.
And what is the point of the tournament if the head coach isn’t available to be in Brazil. Isn’t he going to have to watch them on tape? The TTFA could have tried to be sensible an organised alternative friendlies with Mexico and Canada. But the TTFA took the easy and lazy way out and thought they would look like big shots for having us compete in this tournament. Steups. Have they issued an apology as yet?
Vladimir Henderson-Suite thats d point if u do not have players training how can u ask them to play three of the top teams in the world in brazil, mexico and canada? I do not believe this A team B team things the names i call earlier together with others if in training can hold their own!! The question is y were they not in national training and how are they expected to compete for places if thrown off the deep end!! I said my piece when the plan was hatched! To increase player pool especially in women football u have to have year round training and developmental program. I am
all for exposure if the players were training or even playing!Think about TT women football brand international p.s we trying to qualify for an Oypmics to b held in the same Brazil
Fair points but my question would be which women club team’s training at this point in time? Only the U20 and U17 I believe were training and the Senior Women’s team doesn’t have a massive pool to pull from (quality-wise). Many International teams have a B squad why can’t we? I think actually instead of flying in the “A-team” we leave the girls out there already to play…. How will we determine their quality and their ability to fight for a place on the National A team… In College Football here we have a Second XI, in Pro Leagues there are Reserve Divisions… Yes the girls got beat 11-0, how would the A team have done? If they had lost 6-0 would we be quarreling as now or saying well atleast it was only six???!!!!
O my. Condolences. Next post Will be to get up, dust off yuh bum and try again. That’s how Warriors roll.
i said i was done with this topic eh but when ppl try to give logical explainations i am forced to give the logical reason y this was madness lets forget d Brazil game the ‘Big team’ play Usa on the 10th to travell from texas most likely without the head coach and assistant bc of visas issues, kennya and tasha are out, the rock erin king may not get there bc of visa and yellow shots restrictions, the team will b jet lagged and tired an expected to play three top games in 7 days if we include the Usa game its 4 games in ten days for a team with question marks over its fitnes!! As i said before a recipe for injuries and embrassment! I said so before d Brazil game and time will tell with the rest! just putting it on record
I agree with your points. All valid. But notwithstanding that we now have a new TTFA president, would the alternative of just being in Trinidad with most of the players away and only some girls training and no guarantee of anything lined up before February. Is that better preparation?
kion williams u know the amazing thing they say it only had 7 or 8 girls in training but the could pull two teams to play at the same time!! We need to get to the root of our problems as a sporting nation more than 50 percent of the two teams was local base so y were they not in training these are some of the intelligent question we need to ask!! U do not increase ur pool with international games against top team u increase them with coaching and training!
Fair point in terms of the training and how to properly increase our player pool there Gordon.
While 11-0 is indefensible, the coaches are of the view that we are getting the opportunity to face Concacaf opponents FREE OF CHARGE, in the form of Mexico and Canada as preparation for the Olympic Qualifiers. For those two games we would have a decent squad, but little prep time. However, the alternative for the coaches was to say no and HOPE that the TTFA organise some warm-up games before Feb. I can’t blame them for saying “facing brazil in an inconsequential game with a B or C team is worth the risk based on the benefit of a free camp in brazil and 3 decent games”
I not going to comment much more about this bc oblviously anyone with any real football knowledge and no ulterior motive know this is a horrible move!! The coaches can not get anything from this bc for that first game the majority of the team was not active, any coach worth their salts know u gradually increase d level of ur opposition. When the ‘big team ‘ reach they would be jet lag and tired having played a very difficult game against USA thankfull bc God is a trini the first want was cancelled! Why we repeatedly try to justify horrible footballing decisions with the only opportunity talk and give away what ever gains we make! Selling our birth right for a hot meal!! smh
But Gordon, Randy Waldrum and Anthony Creece said the match had value. They didn’t need to say so. They could have just done the games and kept quiet.
I’m not saying whether they are right or wrong. Just that there is a case for the other side too.
It just doesn’t look clever after an 11-0 spanking.
..They WILL say the match/tour has value. What else would they say? THEY accepted the offer. The team got experience yes. A horrible one..
If I was a coach, I would say that: “we will do our best” or “we will try to make the most of the games”.
But I would not endorse it.
But I know what you are saying Keith Look Loy. They might have felt pressured and some people respond differently to pressure.
Maybe. There is the odd chance that they did believe what they said.
but lasana that is simple common sense
Trinidad and Tobago stand-in head coach Anthony Creece:
“We knew it was going to be very tough for us in the first game. Brazil came out strongly and they never allowed us to settle. Our players were eager to do well but Brazil, at home, proved to be just too much and they dominated the game in large parts.
“We just have to pick ourselves up and get ready for the next game against Canada.
“I think it would be a valuable experience for a lot of the players on this team and hopefully they can come back strongly. No player likes to go down this heavily. We didn’t have much on the bench neither but we’ll lick our wounds and come back for the next game looking to make improvements.
“The bigger picture is obviously the Olympic qualifiers next year and the players here in Natal will be looking to keep building towards getting selected and doing well in the competition next year.”
i somehow recall a T&T youth team tour to Brazil back in the day that we collect some 18+ goals from Rivaldo et al…
Nah. It was 7-0. Rivaldo wasn’t in that team but Ronaldinho was. But women’s football is a bit different.
CONCACAF is one of the strongest women’s groups in FIFA. Our women stand up to USA who are the World Cup champs. No team in the world is supposed to be able to give our women double figures.
It is a different kettle of fish for our men’s teams.
But yuh absolutely right—T&T Women Warriors are the legit item. That scoreline has to be a glitch in the Matrix.
I really doubt it. We don’t play Brazil that often. That sounds like an urban myth. Ronaldinho tormented us with a team that didn’t include Rivaldo in the late 1990s. But I can’t be 100 percent sure.
I appreciate all the fanfare around the women’s team…it, at the very least, shows increased and improved interest in our football in general. That said, it appears that we have gotten immensely carried away with the ladies’ nearly run to the World Cup last year. Lasana Liburd, we didn’t ‘stand up’ to the USA…we held on grimly…and lost. We ‘stood up’ the same way the u20 girls stood up against Canada. Our ladies have been miles off the standard for a very very very long time. Granted, we’re improving, but let’s be rational about it
Okay. I will put it another way, Carlon. We were not embarrassed by the US. And as such I should think that we would not be embarrassed in that manner by anyone.
But I have my suspicions as to why, out of all the FIFA member associations, the US wanted to play us for their Victory Tour.
Methinks the Yanks have a score to settle. And our team is not best prepared. Fingers and toes crossed…
Will accept that Lasana
i concur.
but T&T is not a pot-scraper team. not by a long shot.
the “almost qualify” status of last year’s team puts them in the same category as the Strike Squad in the 90s…and let’s be real—we felt that team could have beaten anybody, anyday, anywhere—and weren’t often wrong about that either.
then ah feel is ah next match we talking about. i distinctly recall ah man saying Rivaldo eat ah fellah up on the line…turns around…eats him up coming BACK…passes the ball to someone else—who then does the same thing. then both of them drop to the pitch laughing.
Trinidad and Tobago stand-in head coach Anthony Creece:
“We knew it was going to be very tough for us in the first game. Brazil came out strongly and they never allowed us to settle. Our players were eager to do well but Brazil, at home, proved to be just too much and they dominated the game in large parts.
“We just have to pick ourselves up and get ready for the next game against Canada.
“I think it would be a valuable experience for a lot of the players on this team and hopefully they can come back strongly. No player likes to go down this heavily. We didn’t have much on the bench neither but we’ll lick our wounds and come back for the next game looking to make improvements.
“The bigger picture is obviously the Olympic qualifiers next year and the players here in Natal will be looking to keep building towards getting selected and doing well in the competition next year.”
..Yeah. Brasil was mauled. IN A WORLD CUP SEMI-FINAL. No-one expected that between two teams of global pedigree. But our humiliation by Brasil was sooo predictable. Your equation doesn’t work..
germany mauled brazil big team in a world cup,,,relax now every player knows where they need to be n the work they need to put out
…Because Hart is a smart coach. This ain’t Under-10 football where we play for experience. BAD decision to submit the team and the nation to such humiliation. The old adage will ALWAYS hold true: Fail to prepare then prepare to fail..
I agree with that saying. But unless we get something in January for February which I haven’t heard of yet this was our best option for said preparation. Please remember had the games in Brazil started on the 16th would we have accepted hearing we turned down a all expenses paid tournament again 3 great nations? Stephen hart is smart I agree and he is also smart enough to know he needs the Copa tournament because it will assist with match preparation even though some of the games leading he doesn’t have access to the top players.
But Hart will only miss two or three players while he will have a nucleus of players who have been with him for almost three years. Chalk and cheese.
We will learn from these five games one way or the other. My initial feeling was that a near bankrupt TTFA has to take advantage of such opportunities and try to be creative.
But, in the end, we will know if we are better off training and preparing properly as opposed to hanging our hats so high.
I know Stephen Hart would never play his team in such conditions. He wouldn’t take such a gamble with his reputation and the team’s confidence.
Have not been following, is this the U20’s?
No. It is the senior team. Problem is that our first team is in the US. So the TTFA created a second team to play against Brazil.
Ooooh. I now wondering if it is the same team I saw played against Ecuador. While I am slightly relieved itwas the same team. 6-0 is quite a licking for any team. Why do we have two senior womens teams anyway?
..Agreed. And we/they should NEVER have been forced into that position by people who should know better. Bad, bad, bad, decision to attempt this nonsense of accepting two simultaneous invitations…
…So what else did we expect? This helps our women’s football? The coach and new administration couldn’t simply say “Thanks but no thanks”? THIS helps prepare our players for WHAT precisely? Poor decision by all concerned to accept. Let’s hope we are not similarly humiliated by USA tonight. Don’t be a kid in a candy shop wanting everything. Since when we could field TWO national teams simultaneously? If we team ain’t ready it ain’t ready..
Sigh. A lot is riding on game tonight now. Our pride and image. And possibly the confidence of our women.
This makes no sense to me…. None
Immediate inquiry!
One of the first things our new TTFF executive should is rationalize some of these national teams Limited resources and reality have to be matched,also the reality of standard of players and quality of coaching. Stress needs to be placed on developmental coaching and then an elite player program and then national teams.
WATCH: Highlights of Trinidad and Tobago Women’s 11-0 loss to Brazil
Fair enough but do bear in mind the squad is a large one and if managed correctly 4 games in 10 days is not inconceivable. I think given the circumstances the team are in, if they perform well in at least 2 of the games then it gives them some confidence after last night.
Cy Padmore playing Canada and Mexico with a tired jet lagged team that have question marks over its fitness has little or no value! In fact its a recipe for injuries and embrassment! It was better to watch the tape!!
Accepting an invitation to participate in a tournament against Martha and her Brazilian National team is most definitely not a practice opportunity.
This is unfortunately a bad administrative decision that does NOT benefit the football business investment in the Trinidad and Tobago’s football product.
Huge mistake, more particularly in the midst seeking investment in the T&T Women’s football development program.
Yes accepting was certainly a risk, but I believe it was worth it, there are still 3 more games to play and it can only get better and the experience against Canada and Mexico will be vital. I hope the management support the team psychologically because that beating could not have been easy especially when some of the Brazilian players were clearly making fun of the team. Even the commentators were apologetic, they were explaining to the audience that this wasn’t our first team.
Why in heavens sake would you take a make shift women’s team to play Brazil? It makes no logical sense…..our under 20 team in World Cup qualifying and our senior team playing the United States…..so who was this team that faced Brazil?? Against the great Martha…..I don’t blame the girls I blame the mgt this game should have never been played…..
I couldn t agree with you more
Lasana Liburd i hope u would guide this discussion correctly!! And no the captain is not the only from the world cup qualifying team there are a number of girls there who was part of that team!! The biggest problem here is accepting the tournament at this time, T&T women team have a basic very important core who if not present the team will not be competitive!! I said it when this idea was hatched it have no value to taking this Brazil at this time none!!
Who else played in the World Cup qualifiers?
analis cummings, shellene henry, afyia mathais,joe marie lewis all were on the team ana prescott was part of the team but injuried
Any of them played? When Eric asked about players, he obviously wasn’t referring to squad members or people who were in the training squad. He meant who played.
That is like saying Gary Glasgow was part of the 2006 World Cup squad. He was. But then he wasn’t. If you get my drift.
Lasana so the team is d eleven then? And jo marie scored in the caribbean championships henry, cumming, mathias all played
Now this is the crux of the problem rite dey – we have put emphasis on a handful of players for too long while denying the majority the opportunity for exposure. It has become so bad, some of the “few” have started acting as if they’re bigger than the team itself. Sighs!
Sad !!!
Other than being out play on all levels the lack of medical assistance I did like a few time our girls went down and a guy ran on with a bottle off water and late on the Brazilian women had to help one of our players that not acceptable
I will check back to see the staff we sent to Brazil.
It didn’t look good on our behalf as a team and a country
(Technical staff for Brazil tournament)
T&T: Anthony Creece (coach), Steve Fredericks (equipment manager), Benyam Astorga (trainer), Kendall Walkes (technical director).
No physiotherapist. Sigh. Not good at all. They should have treated the girls better than that!
Smh that’s not good at all watched the game our girls went down with cramps alot and all he had was a bottle of water my thing is if was a more serious injury and close to the end of the game it was like they guy was tired or didn’t know wht to do
What Kendell Walkes doing there ?
Even though it was a blowout the experience will serve the ladies well in how they approach the game in the future.
How humiliating!
They will return home with heads hung very low – or hidden.
They better find an easier career.
I will never forget that 11 we got.. Lasana Liburd.
Do you think the girls will need mental help to shake it off?
The team we play back then and now, I think they will need it.. Wish them the best.
Only Maylee was there from the last team.
What happened to the rest. Are they back in colleges in the US or something…..
They are in the US for a game against USA. That’s the issue.
http://wired868.com/2015/12/04/waldrums-doubt-for-brazil-tourney-maylee-confirms-temporary-return-to-wwarriors/
Expected. Good baptism for the young ones. Remember the feeling. Work hard so you will never have to feel that way in your careers again.
Ok. Thanks. I really love that squad but their scholarships are more important. Developing countries problem
Lasana Liburd, what happened to the players from the last tournament who looked so promising?
I would say this. We all know this isn’t our starting team and it goes to show that our a team is way ahead of all the other female we have the gap is too wide. Brazilians started leaving the venue and switching off tv’s as much as they like winning this wasn’t competitive for them and may even affect future invitations. It is now a back room talking point.
Yup i have to endorse your idea that this team should have gone USA
No Sherdon Ifm Pierre this tournament invitation should not have been accepted!! The USA tour was accepted months ago and is part of the USA victory tour with prime time television veiwing! I will refrain from saying more at this time
USA games are prime time indeed one game was cancelled
Note the law suit!! Note the reasons for the cancellations!! U are a classy operator,lets keep our comments logical and progressive for sports!!
USA matches are prime time but one was cancelled. Don’t think Brazil at home with Marta and on stations like Band and Globe are any less than Fox and ESPN. Mexico and Canada means that this tournament is way bigger trust me. One does not turn down opportunities like this especially with how business in done down south. This wasn’t an invitation but more like winning the lottery. What you do with the money or how it is spent is a different story but you don’t give away your ticket
Agreed but the invite came late and d decision to go on the 1st dec with the first US game scheduled for the 5th months before
ouch….but expected.
I was at a Pro League game Nigel Myers. Was this a rough lesson? Or was it that many of the players used simply are not ready for international football?
Both
Sigh.
As Calvin said, both. But at the same time, we have to keep in mind that our girls went there with little to no preparation. Still, with the little possession we had, you could see the difference in class/experience between Maylee and the rest. Very, very harsh lesson, but necessary.
We had 13 players including a sub goalie. Is a bare XI some of whom star struck at seeing Marta and train together for two days before departing. Is a pick-up side. If Maylee and Creece were not available I am sure we would not have bothered. Do we even know if players were picked based on position or who was available?
The good thing is, we should know where we are now and recognize what we need to improve in order to be competitive.
An’ is not Kamla fault???? Wow!?
Seriously though,most put together teams usually get mauled.
The initial glaring difference between the two sides was the athleticism of the Brazilians. As expected, we were lacking fitness as well. Our girls for the most part look shell shocked on the field. We would have already been down 1-0 after 45 seconds if not for a goal line clearance. Technically and tactically, the Brazilians were miles ahead of our ladies.