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Talented Trinidad and Tobago winger Joevin Jones joined the Soca Warriors squad in training on Tuesday but it is uncertain whether he will take the field for Thursday’s friendly international against Jamaica, kicking off at 8pm at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port-of-Spain.
Jones’ surprise return caused a stir in the United States, with the Seattle Times claiming that the wing-back “left [his Major League Soccer (MLS) employers] the Sounders without authorisation.”
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Seattle Sounders general manager Garth Lagerway pointedly did not contradict the Times’ version of events although he would only say that Jones returned to Trinidad for personal reasons.
Lagerway conceded that Sounders could not stop Jones from representing the Soca Warriors in upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Honduras and Panama on 1 and 5 September respectively. He did say, though, that “friendlies [are] something that we negotiate around.” This could be interpreted as a warning should Jones be used without their permission in Thursday’s friendly, which falls outside of the FIFA international match window.
A TTFA release this evening stated that “There is no confirmation that the player will take part in Thursday’s match.”
However, Wired868 understands that National Senior Team coach Dennis Lawrence is looking into whether he can add the winger to his match-day squad.
Last month, the 25-year-old Jones signed a two-and-a-half-year deal with Bundesliga 2 club, SV Darmstadt 98, which will see the former W Connection standout and Mucurapo East schoolboy join the German second division in January 2018 as a free agent.
Sounders are keen to keep Jones until then as they bid to retain the MLS Cup this December.
Seattle defeated Toronto on extra-time penalty kicks.
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It is uncertain whether Darmstadt and Sounders failed to arrive at a mutually acceptable figure for Jones’ early release, which would have allowed him to join the German club before that country’s transfer window closes next week.
Jones’ return to Trinidad means he will miss two MLS fixtures against Vancouver Whitecaps and Portland Timbers on 23 and 27 August respectively.
Bizarrely, though, when asked whether Jones would rejoin his employers after this international break or might simply abandon them until his contract expires at the end of the year, the Sounders manager “refused to speculate.”
in league action on Sunday, Jones played for 90 minutes as Sounders won 2-1 over Minnesota United, the worst club in the MLS this season who employ Jones’ compatriot, Kevin Molino.
Lawrence already has San Jose Earthquakes winger Cordell Cato in his fold as Cato was allowed to join the Warriors a week early, after losing his spot in the club’s first team.
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The Warriors expected to have the services of Colorado Rapids defender Mekeil Williams against Jamaica as well. However, although Williams also lost his starting position in recent weeks, Rapids decided to keep hold of the player until obliged to release him for international duty by FIFA law.
Jones, who already has one foot out of the door at Sounders, apparently opted to walk to his own beat.
At present, Lawrence has 21 players in camp with Williams, Defence Force goalkeeper Andre Marchan and 17-year-old W Connection attacker Isaiah Hudson all omitted from the initial 24-man provisional squad.
North East Stars defender Kevon Villaroel was recalled after recovering from injury.
Defence Force utility player Curtis Gonzales, a two-time World Youth Cup defender, should face Jamaica for the first time at senior level on Thursday and he is relishing the match-up.
“We know how important it is to get it right for the Honduras game and the rivalry with Jamaica is massive,” Gonzales told the TTFA Media. “I have never played against them but I have heard lots of stories and I am feeling honoured to be part of the team that will take them on on Thursday. I expect the match to be a rough one.”
Costa Rica won 2-1.
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Jamaica travel to Trinidad with six players from their 2017 CONCACAF Gold Cup squad, which finished as runners-up. Defender Ladale Ritchie and midfielders Michael Binns, Ewan Grandison and Ricardo Morris all saw action for the “Reggae Boyz” at the recent Gold Cup while forward Shamar Nicholson and defender Rosario Harriott were unused substitutes.
Jamaica coach Theodore “Tappa” Whitmore has also included 16-year-old attacker Kaheem Parris, who could become his country’s youngest international player if he takes the field at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.
Parris was part of the Jamaica squad that eliminated Trinidad and Tobago at Under-17 level last year while he scored twice in a 3-1 win over El Salvador in April, which was the Boyz’ only triumph of the CONCACAF competition.
“I am so grateful for this wonderful opportunity to represent my country,” Parris told CONCACAF. “To be part of the squad is great and I am looking forward to this encounter coming up. I have been working hard and I believe hard work pays off at the end of the day.
“Playing in the CONCACAF tournament at U-17 level earlier in the year […] helped me to develop mental strength and to grow as a player, to get over disappointments quickly, to move on to success quicker and make me want to work harder.
Grandison is part of the Jamaica team that tackles Trinidad and Tobago at the Hasely Crawford Stadium on Thursday.
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“So with this national senior team call-up, I plan to work hard to be a regular in the senior team.”
Tickets for Thursday’s friendly international, priced at $100 (covered) and $50 (uncovered), are on sale at all NLCB Lotto locations and will also be on sale at the venue on Thursday.
Tickets for the World Cup qualifier with Honduras are also on sale at Lotto locations and fans can get free entry for the Jamaica friendly by showing a ticket for the Honduras affair.
(Trinidad and Tobago squad for Jamaica friendly)
Goalkeepers: Marvin Phillip (Point Fortin Civic), Adrian Foncette (Police FC);
Defenders: Maurice Ford, Triston Hodge, Alvin Jones (W Connection), Taryk Sampson (Central FC), Shane Sandy (St Ann’s Rangers), Kevon Villaroel (North East Stars), Aubrey David (PS Remi—Finland);
(Courtesy CONCACAF)
Midfielders: Hughtun Hector (W Connection), Curtis Gonzales (Defence Force), Jared London (Club Sando), Nathaniel Garcia (Central FC);
Attacking midfielders: Hashim Arcia (Defence Force FC), Nathan Lewis (San Juan Jabloteh), Neil Benjamin Jr (W Connection), Tyrone Charles (Club Sando), Julio Noel (San Juan Jabloteh), Cordell Cato (San Jose Earthquakes—USA),
Forwards: Rundell Winchester (North East Stars), Marcus Joseph (W Connection);
Standby: Joevin Jones (Seattle Sounders—USA).
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Why would any player put their making the real professional monies abroad in the real professionals leagues to represent the Soca Worries that is always owing our players and coaches their well deserving monies eh, like my baller for life is brainwashed by Coach DL plenty of lyrics about representing our sweet country for free or what eh, well my advice to all our players that is making the real professional monies abroad is Alyuh beter always put alyuh professional clubs first at all times eh until the corrupted TTFA really starts to treat you all like real professionals and stop the exploitation once and for all. Them really good yes.
Well…I could see this from a point of view where Joevin recognised that T&T had two vital games and he “owed us a performance”. He felt, at the point in time, that spending as much time prepping for those games with the national team was more important than his soon to be ex-club and was willing to sacrifice everything to get us to the world cup. It didn’t work out. The extra week didn’t help him or us. Now that we have “died” he can give his all to Seattle for the rest of the season. It could be seen as professionalism vs patriotism. Or…he could do a Molino and do nonsense again after the “disciplinary stuff was handled internally and we move on from that” a la Hart and the 1st boat ride.
BOOM.
https://t.co/b6dHxG4SfE?amp=1
TUKWILA, Wash. — Seattle Sounders left back Joevin Jones returned to training on Thursday after leaving the club for personal reasons on Aug. 22 and joining the Trinidad and Tobago national team ahead of 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifiers.
Jones missed Seattle’s matches against the Vancouver Whitecaps on Aug. 23 and Portland Timbers on Aug. 27.
“He understands where he is with me and with his teammates,” Head Coach Brian Schmetzer said of Jones. “He has to prove to them that he is absolutely fully committed up until Dec. 9 and that will dictate how he plays, when he plays, why he plays.”
Jones signed a pre-contract with German club SV Darmstadt 98 in late July and will depart for Europe following the 2017 MLS season. He leads the Sounders with 10 assists in 24 matches, and Schmetzer said that Jones is available for selection on Sunday at home against the LA Galaxy (6 p.m. PT; FS1, 107.7 The End, El Rey 1360 AM | TICKETS).
“A lot of guys on the team like Joevin,” Schmetzer said. “A lot of them believe that he’s a good guy. People make mistakes. There’s no getting around that. As far as I’m concerned, it’s put to bed. All the disciplinary stuff has been handled internally. It’s put to bed. He’s got to prove it on the field. I have faith in him, and I expect him to do his job.”
https://www.soundersfc.com/post/2017/09/07/interview-brian-schmetzer-return-joevin-jones?autoplay=true
So what is Joevin’s situation now?
No transfer was done. So he has to return to Seattle.
Yeah well going AWOL worked out beautifully for him…
Hope they don’t bench him until the end of the year.
Lol. Yeah that didn’t work too well. But once they think they can win and Joevin can help, he would probably play.
really dont matter
Sorry I didn’t screen shot the original story this morning – but the Seattle times reporter has changed it up A LOT just checking it back a few minutes ago
Click bait headline still is there – but his tone is much more understanding re Joevin, new quotes from Sounders coach & added opinion to similar football situations with players
Shall we confront him on the twitter world ? Ha
Allow me to add my two-cents…while d way in which it was done may not be most professional…he chose to give his country d best effort by sacrificing his own club commitments an self gains…more time home before WCQ = better preparation for the games an less stress on d body to over exhaustion jet lag among other stuff…I applaud d stance star
Or the German club is just advising him about the best possible way to apply pressure to Seattle Sounders.
Tru Tru… let’s hope it doh backfire if dais d case
i don’t think it is a risky strategy. He only has two and a half months left at Seattle at the worst. So he can endure that.
It isn’t a gentleman’s approach. But not much the club can do to him now.
This is normal football business. German club wants him earlier as MLS has a September 1 window, TnT play September 1st and 5th WCQ. MLS and USSF would like insurance on USA qualification for Russia 2018. We can not use a simplistic Master/Slave worker paradigm to analyse these multiple variables of Joevin’s actions.
On a side note: Kaheem Parris was really a handful in that CFU U-17 tournament last year. He looks a good prospect for Jamaica.
Makes sense
Actually what I mean’t to say is that Sounders wanted millions for him from the German Club before is contract expired, so the German Club said that the Sounders team is ah set ah mad people, hence the reason why they decided to wait for him until 20 18 now that he is a free agent. . Them really good yes
That makes no sense. His contract is up, making him a free agent. Seattle is not entitled to compensation unless they want to get him in this transfer window
I can’t tell whether people on this thread supporting this move by Joevin or not, but this is the same kind of indiscipline and lack of commitment that leads one to break out of camp to go lime on the avenue.
It is unsavory. But this is not unheard of by a long short in football transfers. I don’t think it is self-indulgent behaviour.
Example: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/aug/10/ousmane-dembele-borussia-dortmund-barcelona
Kenwyne Jones refused to play for Southampton just before he got his move to Sunderland in the Premier League too. His coach then (I think it was Burnley) promised Kenwyne that he would not stand in the way of the move once he behaved and Kenwyne continued playing…
Only to be informed that the coach told board members that Kenwyne didn’t want to leave club and was happy there and his behaviour proves it.
The fact that a director leaked that to Kenwyne just shows how divided clubs can be over stuff like that.
The point isn’t about the frequency with which it happens. The point is the character indication you get from those who do it.
Either way, I don’t think the two examples above are parallel at all. Neither player walked out of their team to go play ball elsewhere. If Lawrence plays him, it’ll speak volumes about his character as well.
I agree with you Chabeth Haynes.
Chabeth most players claim a phantom injury that scans won’t pick up and are miraculously healed when they are signed or once the transfer window closes.
You see Joevin already has two masters as the German club will pay his salary for the next two and a half years while his current team will do so for just six more months.
So easy for the german team to put pressure on him if that is the case.
Like you, I don’t like it. But I’m used to it.
Dennis will play him if his current team gives permission. And I think that is fair enough.
Ok. Hope the German team pays the fine he rightfully deserves.
Lol. They should. And I’d expect that they would offer him something.
Agreed the German team is involved. Also Joevin have to play Wednesday and Sunday probably full 90 then fly from Seatlle about 8 hours plus 3 hour time difference with a Monday release and Friday September 1 match vs. Honduras then Tuesday match vs. Panama for a total of 4 matches in 15 days. If he follow the MLS(USSF) Monday release he will not be the match changer he can be in those WCQ. Who benefits from that?
That scenario essentially happened to J b4 the games vs USA & Costa Rica if I remember correctly ? Lasana Liburd
i see you arrived at the same conclusions i did RE: match vs recovery vs flying time equations
Dennis Allen Fundamentally we must not attack the worker first whether employer is foreign club or TTFA
the way i saw it: Jones either read a play or make a gut call.
I have a high respect for players than most because they often interact with people at powerful levels that most of us do not and will never
Indicipline. That was always their problem and some are encouraged because they got away with it in the past but the US is not TnT and he will find that out soon enough.
This should not have been done by JJ and last that I remember, though I tend to agree with you DE about the general MO of more serious and professionally run clubs, the coach of “Berghdal” Molino in the US, from I remember, did not take any disciplinary action.
This doesn’t bode well for him.. .. just saying…
I think it is just the typical power play when a player tries to agitate for a transfer. Usually another club is behind it.
Then his German club would have to pay an early transfer fee … not sure
The MLS team might be asking for too much and they are trying to force them into a deal of their liking. Maybe. I can only speculate.
I never like when a player behaves like that though. It’s ugly. But it’s part of the game.
Numerous players are doing similar things all over the world right now, including Coutinho at Liverpool and Dembele at Dortmund.
I’m pretty sure the German team is behind this move and probably wants to push Seattle into lowering asking price so the player can join them next week.
So you’re saying they are trying to get a transfer rather than wait until January?
At a cost that suits them I would think. Remember they are pushing for instant promotion. If Joevin can help them pick up points between now and then, it could be worth it.
The Seattle journalist arguing hard on twitter ha
First he said in story his sources said Joevin left team without permission
Now it’s “irrelevant” if he plays vs Jamaica or not
From the interview with the GM, it seems clear that stuff isn’t right with Joevin and Seattle though.
Geoff going down hard with he story! Lol.
Ye bird ha – we know how the game works, somebody in Sounders leak that info to Seattle times and GM talking in codes
Exactly! Lol. But Geoff’s story really is weak eh. Because he didn’t even quote a source really. What kinda saves him is the Sounders GM’s bizarre interview when he admitted that he doesn’t even know when his player is coming back.
But the GM is very diplomatic saying that JJ came home for personal reasons.
Didn’t read the story but the accusation in the tweet is damning. It *is* indeed “irrelevant” to the Sounders whether he plays or not, if he walked out on the team that is all that matters.
Timothy, the GM said volumes by saying very little. In the first place, he held a press conference with nothing say while choosing not to dispute the initial story.
That is one of the most passive aggressive interviews I’ve seen in ages. Lol.
Yes it was
Lemme screenshot Geoff on twitter here. Hold on
Geoff is a union rep looking for a wuk or a wanna be journalist…?
Dennis Allen ha games all around – he knows something & Sounders using him as a mouth piece to attack Joevin
why they ain play him? Aint like[checks the time on my Hublot] he can make it back to Seattle now eh?
Seattle can report TTFA to Fifa if they do and get compensation. Not sure they would. But they can.
Was just checking the rule book on that. Yeah. I imagine backroom talks are being engaged as we type…