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Lawrence: I am out! TTFA board in uproar as DJW accused of bungling deal for new T&T coach

The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) is believed to be in crisis mode after World Cup 2006 hero and ex-Everton FC assistant coach Dennis Lawrence pulled out of a deal to be Men’s National Senior Team head coach, just 48 hours after both parties agreed in a principle.

The breaking point, according to Lawrence’s agent Mike Berry, was termination clauses inserted into the deal on Thursday as well as the TTFA’s failure to allay the prospective coach’s concerns.

Photo: Former Trinidad and Tobago defender Dennis Lawrence (right) and coach Leo Beenhakker have a word in Manama on 17 November 2005. Lawrence scored the only goal as T&T edged Bahrain 1-0 that night to qualify for the 2006 World Cup. (Copyright Daily Post)
Photo: Former Trinidad and Tobago defender Dennis Lawrence (right) and coach Leo Beenhakker have a word in Manama on 17 November 2005.
Lawrence scored the only goal as T&T edged Bahrain 1-0 that night to qualify for the 2006 World Cup.
(Copyright Daily Post)

“We have a very disappointed chap who spoke to [Belgium National Senior Team head coach Roberto] Martinez this morning,” Berry told Wired868. “[Martinez] was happy to welcome him back into the [Belgium] fold and he is getting back on with his career. He is very disappointed not to get the chance to do [the Trinidad and Tobago job] his way.”

Wired868 tried unsuccessfully to get comment from TTFA president David John-Williams and technical committee chairman Dexter Skeene.

However, a TTFA board member, who spoke on condition of anonymity, was furious to learn that the deal collapsed and revealed that an emergency board meeting was called for this evening. However the meeting was subsequently cancelled.

The TTFA issued a press release this evening, which promised to name its new coach on Monday. There was no word as to whether it would be Lawrence. It was a far cry from the optimistic mood on Wednesday night, as the two parties on either side of the Atlantic Ocean celebrated a deal to make Lawrence the two island republic’s top football coach.

“On Wednesday night, we agreed in principle [over the phone] the basic terms [of the job],” said Berry, “which is salary, length of contract, bonuses and so on. It was all systems go.”

The deal on offer that Wednesday night was what the TTFA felt should be given to the next Soca Warriors coach. But it is worth pointing out that, up to that point, that person looked like being W Connection coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier, who was recommended for the position by the technical committee.

Photo: W Connection owner David John-Williams (second from left), coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier (centre) and defender Joel Russell (far left) say a prayer of thanks after securing the 2013/14 Pro League trophy at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: W Connection owner David John-Williams (second from left), coach Stuart Charles-Fevrier (centre) and defender Joel Russell (far left) say a prayer of thanks after securing the 2013/14 Pro League trophy at the Ato Boldon Stadium in Couva.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

John-Williams, of course, is W Connection’s co-owner and he recused himself from Wednesday’s deliberations because of his close, personal relationship with Fevrier.

Once, John-Williams returned to the room and learnt that Lawrence—and not Fevrier—was the board’s choice, he allegedly suggested a caveat. The contract, said the TTFA president, should have a termination clause. And, after their discussions Lawrence, the board agreed that there should be performance appraisals added to the deal.

As far as Lawrence’s team was concerned, it was already a done deal and they only asked the board to give them until 8am [TT time] so he could resign from his two-year contract as Belgium National Senior Team scout.

“I said let us get Roberto’s blessing because it was only right to let him know he was losing a member of staff,” said Berry. “We spoke to Roberto [Martinez] at noon English time. He was absolutely delighted and happy to endorse Lawrence. He said he would help as much as possible—except if [the two nations] met in Russia [at the 2018 World Cup]!”

Lawrence and Berry sat back and waited to hear from the TTFA. But, two hours later, there had been no contact from the local football body and a call to Skeene went straight to voicemail.

Wired868 understands that, at the time, Skeene was trying to engineer clauses that would satisfy John-Williams but not put off Lawrence.

Photo: Central FC star Ataulla Guerra (centre) takes the 2014/15 Pro League trophy from Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)
Photo: Central FC star Ataulla Guerra (centre) takes the 2014/15 Pro League trophy from Pro League CEO Dexter Skeene.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/Wired868)

Berry, who was unaware of the late developments, emailed Skeene and John-Williams and revealed that Roberto Martinez wanted to issue a press release congratulating Lawrence on his new post and explaining to the public why he rated the former Defence Force and Swansea defender so highly.

Lawrence played under Martinez at Swansea and then was a member of his coaching staff at Wigan Athletic, Everton and Belgium.

John-Williams, according to Berry, replied to the email within minutes to say: No press release please.

At 10am, Skeene phoned Lawrence to say there would be amendments to the initial deal but he could not say what those were.

Wired868 understands that Skeene phoned one ex-Trinidad and Tobago international for advice on performance markers for the contract. John-Williams allegedly wanted Lawrence to deliver either nine or 10 points from the CONCACAF Hex or be sacked. But Skeene allegedly felt that was unreasonable.

The advisor suggested instead that perhaps the FIFA rankings could be used as a gauge—but it must work both ways. A drop by a certain number of places could prompt a review while there would be a reward if Trinidad and Tobago climbed the rankings.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Radanfah Abu Bakr (centre) walks away while Haiti players celebrate their 1-0 win in the 2016 Copa America play off contest at the Rommel Fernandez Stadium, Panama City on 8 January 2016. (Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Radanfah Abu Bakr (centre) walks away while Haiti players celebrate their 1-0 win in the 2016 Copa America play off contest at the Rommel Fernandez Stadium, Panama City on 8 January 2016.
(Courtesy Allan V Crane/CA-images/Wired868)

Three hours after their brief conversation, Skeene told Lawrence that the contract was on the way.

“There were clauses that I never came across before in my 20-odd years as an agent,” said Berry.

The two clauses that stood out, according to Berry, were that Lawrence could be terminated if Trinidad and Tobago: (a) did not have a 40 percent success rate on a presumed annual basis; or (b) suffered a six point drop in the FIFA rankings.

“So if, God forbid, we lose against Panama and Mexico [in March] and we drop six points in the FIFA rankings as a result,” said Berry, “then his contract can be terminated at four months’ notice! Now bear in mind, Dennis has a two-year contract in Belgium. Those clauses were unacceptable.

“And not only were they in the termination section but they were under the heading of gross misconduct. So if he was sacked for one of those clauses, he would not only be sacked for non-performance but for gross conduct. That could destroy his career. How could he sign that?!”

John-Williams emailed Berry on Thursday evening and ask Lawrence to call him, which the 42-year-old coach did.

The TTFA president did not congratulate Lawrence or say that he was looking forward to working with him. Instead, he simply wanted to know his choice for assistant coaches.

Photo: Former Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team head coach Stephen Hart (left) and Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams enjoy each other's company during a press conference at the Hyatt Regency hotel in Port of Spain on 19 May 2016. (Courtesy Wired868)
Photo: Former Trinidad and Tobago National Senior Team head coach Stephen Hart (left) and Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams enjoy each other’s company during a press conference at the Hyatt Regency hotel in Port of Spain on 19 May 2016.
(Courtesy Wired868)

Wired868 understands that Lawrence gave John-Williams a six-man shortlist, which included two English coaches, one Dutch coach and locals: Stern John, Angus Eve and Hutson “Barber” Charles. Lawrence intended to interview the six coaches within the next week.

John, an assistant coach at Pro League champions Central FC, and Eve, the Club Sando head coach, were described as bright, upcoming coaches. While Charles, who worked with Lawrence at Defence Force, offered an immediate knowledge of the current player pool since he worked as Hart’s assistant for the past three years and served as head coach for a year and a half before then.

Lawrence also wanted his own goalkeeping coach, sports scientist and match analysis manager. But the Warriors coach-in-waiting had a question for John-Williams too.

What did the TTFA mean by a 40 percent success rate? Did that include draws, since a solitary point could be the difference between qualification and failure?

John-Williams, according to Berry, told Lawrence he did not know and would get back on to him. But they did not hear from the TTFA president again.

Berry spoke to Skeene on Thursday night too. He pointed to the clauses and suggested that, at the least, Lawrence should have the security of a 12-month pay off—even if the TTFA decided to sack him in the first week.

Photo: Former Everton FC coach Dennis Lawrence. (Copyright Liverpool Echo)
Photo: Former Everton FC coach Dennis Lawrence.
(Copyright Liverpool Echo)

The football body, said Berry, ought to show some faith in a coach that was leaving a job to come and work for Trinidad and Tobago. Skeene, Barry alleged, said that was a reasonable request and promised to get back to them.

Neither John-Williams nor Skeene contacted them again on Thursday night. So, Berry sent an email to both TTFA officials and went to bed.

This morning, there was no emailed response from the TTFA and Lawrence’s enthusiasm had now become a deep unease. The defender rang up a few friends and associates for advice—including 2006 World Cup coach Leo Beenhakker—and then made his decision.

“It smelt fishy and he was very uncomfortable about the lack of response and the lack of courtesy,” said Berry. “And he said: ‘I am out.’ Perhaps if the clauses were in the performance appraisal section and not the termination section or if there was more security for him in the contract…

“He was also concerned about the lack of reference from the TTFA to the long term development of Trinidad and Tobago football, which he felt was equally important to the current World Cup campaign.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago National Under-17 Team playmaker Che Benny (left) gets a high five from substitute Brandon Semper during 2017 World Cup qualifying action against Bermuda at the Ato Boldon Stadium on 18 September 2016. (Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago National Under-17 Team playmaker Che Benny (left) gets a high five from substitute Brandon Semper during 2017 World Cup qualifying action against Bermuda at the Ato Boldon Stadium on 18 September 2016.
(Courtesy Chevaughn Christopher/Wired868)

“He will do his damnedest to get us to the Russia World Cup but he told them from the start that he didn’t just want to be a quick fix.”

And so, Berry alerted the TTFA of his client’s change of heart, via an email to John-Williams, which read:

“In the absence of a response and on reflection, Dennis has decided to reject your offer of the position of national coach. Unfortunately, the philosophy of your technical committee, board and yourself do not match Dennis’ philosophy for Trinidad and Tobago football at this time.

“Dennis has asked me to convey his best wishes for the future success of Trinidad and Tobago football.”

Lawrence’s decision stunned board members who had not been kept abreast of developments since the Wednesday night meeting. As far as they were concerned, the board had already decided upon their coach and the only thing left for John-Williams and Skeene to do was get his signature on a piece of paper.

One source wondered aloud if the TTFA president had sabotaged the process. There is no concrete evidence to support that suggestion at this point in time.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams enjoys himself at new head coach Tom Saintfiet's maiden training session at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain on 15 December 2016. (Courtesy Nicholas Williams/Wired868)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams enjoys himself at new head coach Tom Saintfiet’s maiden training session at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain on 15 December 2016.
(Courtesy Nicholas Williams/Wired868)

“How can a clause lead to all these problems?” asked the source. “That is a matter of simple negotiation. Something has gone wrong somewhere.”

The TTFA board convened an emergency meeting this evening, presumably to discuss the deal. According to the constitution, only the board can hire or fire coaches. However, the meeting was scrapped—presumably because the late notice meant there was unlikely to be quorum.

At Wednesday night’s meeting, although the majority of the technical committee voted for Fevrier, the board members decided that Lawrence was the man they wanted.

Wired868 understands that there were five votes for Lawrence and two for former England World Cup defender and Central FC and San Juan Jabloteh coach Terry Fenwick. John-Williams’ two vice-presidents, Joanne Salazar and Ewing Davis, were the only members who voted for Fevrier, since the TTFA president had recused himself.

“The board decided that Dexter [Skeene] and the president should take the lead in signing the deal [with Lawrence],” said the anonymous board member. “The enthusiasm for Dennis is great and he shouldn’t let [the clauses] stymie him.

“There was no number two [for if we didn’t get Lawrence]. We agreed it would be him.”

Photo: Former Everton FC manager Roberto Martinez (second from right) speaks to assistants Dennis Lawrence (far right) and Graeme Jones during a file photo.
Photo: Football manager Roberto Martinez (second from right) speaks to assistants Dennis Lawrence (far right) and Graeme Jones during their spell at Everton FC.

After the initial interview, Berry revealed that Skeene phoned and apologised for the lack of response by the TTFA. But he was unable to relay whether there was a change of position by the football body on the controversial clauses.

This evening’s board meeting appeared to be the last chance for Lawrence. But there is still hope that John-Williams reopened discussions with the former Malick schoolboy, who was on Wigan’s coaching staff when they Manchester City in the 2013 FA Cup final.

“Roberto [Martinez] said don’t close the door totally [on Trinidad and Tobago],” said Berry. “He was in a similar position once when he left the Swansea job. It seems unlikely now but he said to leave the door open…

“It is not that we are against performance evaluations but you have to give him a reasonable time to do his job. Do a review after 12 months but not from day one!

“They have missed out on a top class guy, never mind a good coach. If Roberto Martinez rates him so highly, surely Trinidad and Tobago should as well.”

Twelve years ago, Lawrence’s headed goal against Bahrain in Manama won Trinidad and Tobago a historic berth at the Germany 2006 World Cup. But, months earlier, the lanky defender showcased his skills on the ground as he tore forward on the overlap to score a decisive item in a 2-0 win over Panama at the Hasely Crawford Stadium in Port of Spain.

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Dennis Lawrence (left) wins a header from Sweden forward Henrik Larsson during the Germany 2006 World Cup at the Dortmund Stadium. (Copyright AFP 2017)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago defender Dennis Lawrence (left) wins a header from Sweden forward Henrik Larsson during the Germany 2006 World Cup at the Dortmund Stadium.
(Copyright AFP 2017)

The Panama triumph was the Warriors’ first competitive outing under Leo Beenhakker and it revitalised the nation’s World Cup qualifying campaign.

Should Lawrence agree terms with the TTFA, his first opponent—on 24 March 2017—will be Panama at the Hasely Crawford Stadium.

Wired868 asked John-Williams for an update on the vacant position on Men’s National Senior Team head coach and whether he was trying to sign Lawrence or discourage him from signing. The football president declined comment but promised that the TTFA would issue a press release later.

“All I can say is maybe your source on the board can answer that text,” said John-Williams. “I have nothing against you if you choose a particular road… All I am saying is don’t lie on me.”

The other coaches on the TTFA’s shortlist were: Francisco Maturana, Fenwick and Fevrier.

The current TTFA board of directors comprises: David John-Williams (president), Joanne Salazar, Ewing Davis and Allan Warner (vice-presidents), Samuel Saunders (Central FA), Sherwyn Dyer (Eastern Counties Football Union), Karanjabari Williams (Northern FA), Richard Quan Chan (Southern FA), Anthony Moore (Tobago FA), Joseph Taylor (Trinidad and Tobago Football Referees Association), Sharon O’Brien (Women’s League Football), Wayne Cunningham (Eastern FA) and Dexter Skeene (TT Pro League).

The TTFA technical committee consists of: Dexter Skeene (chairman), Dr Alvin Henderson (vice-chairman), Bertille St Clair (former World Youth Cup coach), Errol Lovell (former national goalkeeper), Jinelle James (ex-national player and current administrator) and Muhammad Isa (technical director).

Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams (right) performs a duet with former Calypso Monarch, Cro Cro, at the launch of the National Elite Youth Development Program at the Trinidad Hilton on 14 October 2016. (Copyright TTFA Media)
Photo: Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) president David John-Williams (right) performs a duet with former Calypso Monarch, Cro Cro, at the launch of the National Elite Youth Development Program at the Trinidad Hilton on 14 October 2016.
(Copyright TTFA Media)

TTFA statement:

“The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) wishes to advise that the announcement of the newly appointed Head Coach of the Men’s Senior National Team will take place on Monday 23 January 2017.

“The TTFA has noted the large public interest in the selection of our new National Senior Mens coach and we wish to assure the our supporters and stakeholders, the TTFA Technical Committee is working assiduously to complete the current process, to ensure the most appropriate selection, in the best interest of the National Senior Men’s Team Programme and our ongoing the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign.”

About Lasana Liburd

Lasana Liburd
Lasana Liburd is the CEO and Editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.

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283 comments

  1. Wisdom at work my good doctor.

  2. Get over with it, hire SCF TO kill Russia 2018 dream by losing both games in March. Then the TTFA will be credited with firing the coach that got us to a FIFA Ranking 49, hiring Saintfeit and Fevrier who combined would have dropped our ranking to approximately 100 and rooting us to the bottom of the HEX.

    Who are we to stand in the way of the Boards progress?

    Please put us out of this misery!

    The only realistic chance we have for WC is the U20 WC South Korea.

  3. Which world cup Carlos 2026

  4. Time to get rid of this problem David John Williams…I’m convinced that his motives are personal….to get connection on th football map….or to make money….But either way he’s destroying our national teams…get rid of him before it’s to late…

  5. Meanwhile our national team who was beaten at home by Suriname is NOT training. So no interim measures have been put in place lol lol. And the beat goes on …lol

  6. Dennis,you will always remain close to my Heart.November 16.

  7. Good decision by D. Lawrence. Don’t sacrifice your career and limitless opportunities for a half chance (or less) at a world cup. Develop yourself to your fullest potential.

    I only hope WHEN Stuart Charles-Fevrier gets the job, he gets the same clauses in his contract.

  8. J Wms. Do the decent thing and bow out gracefully. Where is your self respect? If you cannot do the job properly- leave.

  9. For the millionth time “the administrators are killing sport”

  10. DJW is managing the TTFA just as his physical appearance ,sloppy n carefree

  11. So yes Laurence is a safe choice but I aint hear nobody comment on the choices he put forward for Assistant. Anybody care to comment?

  12. Carlos Lee Well yes you have a point there, but for some reasons the corrupted TTFA always finds themselves in plenty of debt so they say and is always depending on the government and the sponsors monies eh to always get them out of their mismanagement of the millions of monies occurring practices Them really good yes.

  13. I am rarely wrong the money is there for the rebuilding process after the next two Hex games…..
    According to Mr Look Loy…watch the back door??

  14. Earl – you and I both know that if we make the WC money will be pouring in like rain. I think we’ll be able to pay every $$ owed by the TTFA.

    • This is the first time in my life I have seen T&T in the Hex with zero major sponsors for the senior team.
      The players are doing their job. Is the TTFA doing theirs?

    • Good question Lasana. We should have been pulling in major dollars just for qualifying for the hex. I think all the chaos and drama before and after the first two matches has scared away potential sponsors. TTFA needs to get the program settled. No one wants to invest in a highly volatile entity.

    • Carlos, do you know that the TTFA does not have a finance or marketing committee although those standing committees are enshrined in the constitution?
      As it is know, I believe the TTFA president goes out by himself and meets companies and then reports back only if he has landed something.
      In any case, that isn’t his fault alone. It is also the board’s.

    • Lasana – those are things we must change and soon. I don’t have a problem with the president going out and raising funds – in fact I think that’s a good thing. But a marketing committee is critical to the organization. Especially as we are in the hex and have some good visibility and recognition.

  15. And where will they be getting the bonus/incentives monies eh. .the corrupted TTFA is still owing Coach Hart, Ken Elie, and whoever else plenty monies eh Carlos Lee steuuppss. Them really good yes.

  16. More bacchanal in the football

  17. I think a 2-year guaranteed contract would be quite appropriate for Dennis or a similar caliber coach. First point of appraisal should be at the end of the hex. If we make the WC we obviously continue with him and even look to extend and upgrade his contract. If we do not make the WC, then TTFA should be able to use that as a means to path ways. But since he would have had a guaranteed contract he gets paid for year 2. I would also include some bonus/incentives in the contract tied to us making the WC – even getting to the 4th place play-offs.

  18. DJW should offer Fevrier the same contract, but I guess when things go wrong he will still have a job at WC. I see the strategy they are using, but will refrain for now. Lawrence was right to be uneasy, these people only want to get to the top by destroying people’s reputation…very nasty scenario. I hope if they do offer it to Terence William Fenwick, he scrutinises that contract with a magnifying glass, fine tooth comb and get MI6 or FBI to investigate as well and I know Reyna Kowlessar, will ensure they doh play up.

  19. ..Results not important in Belgium and they fired their WC 2014 coach? Right..

    • If you check my post, I didn’t say results were never important. But after 10 years of development which got them to the World Cup in 2014 with an excellent squad, he’ll yes results are important. We’re trying to get results from an ad hoc bunch of players with no collective adhesion. There is no developmental plan or even a designated training facility. Once the coach has a full toolbox then he has to earn his pay.

    • ..This ain’t age group football man. And even then – at the end of the day RESULTS ARE THE ONLY SERIOUS YARD STICK..

  20. Kevin Harrison without an informer on the inside Mr. Live Wire cannot write his stories to keep his wired members updated about the madness that continues to take place within the corrupted TTFA eh, hence the reason why my dictator president is trying to put a gag order on him the same like what he did to my Prof Jamaal Shabazz eh, so let the informer continues to always do his part nah. Them really good yes. hahahaha

  21. It depends what his KPIs are. For example, Belgium, Iceland and Panama all set 10 year plans and goals. Results were not important. Belgium for example sacrificed two Euros and at least one WC to achieve their aims, which we now see they have become a leading nation in world football. We seem to just want short term results. Why don’t we plan today for 2022 qualification? What’s the point if scraping into 2018 if we won’t get past the group stage? Our 15 – 18 year olds should be our focus now. So we should be appointing a coach with that in mind. Who cares about FIFA rankings for a couple of years. Invest in our youth, build strong foundations for development. Interact with Pro League and Super League clubs to nurture these players. Maybe even help with their salaries or transport. Let’s build a team as a country.

  22. ..What metrics? Number of training sessions? Absent/present ratio? Wins/draws/losses! Only those matter..

  23. There is a degree of negativity in the appointment of the coach. If you truly believe a guy is the right man, why are you so focused on his terms of dismissal? Of course there must be clauses and KPI’s, but they should be standard for any coach. Would SCF have lasted in his first season at Connection with such clauses? Certainly, Alex Ferguson wouldn’t have made year 1 at Man U. You have to have realistic parameters. But the reality is that no matter what a coaches contract says, it’s a results business and a coach can be fired at any time if performances are poor. We need to observe that DJW is trying to take care of TTFA business. If he offers a 3 year deal and the next coach turns out to be another Saintfeit, TTFA would have to pay a large settlement to get rid of him. So I can’t disagree with the concept. But the way this has happened is embarrassing. I’m not impressed by a board member leaking information either. While the public want to know the situation, leaking information like this only unsettles the process. Yes, transparency is important, but this issue may have been resolved without any reason for the public to know of the content of the discussions. Now DJW will have no trust in his board and those with integrity on the board will be viewed with suspicion. And the next coach will always be under the shadow of a failed appointment process.
    I would be interested to see the conditions for dismissal in the contracts of TTFA board members, technical committee and senior management. For example, at what point would the Technical Director be fired? What are the clauses in our new women’s coach contract or Russel Latapy? What about the Gen Sec or DJW? Do they also have such definite measures for success and failure? If so, why are they all still there?

    • Well said on a number of points. I also agree that it’s appalling the extent of information leaked to the press. It’s quite unsettling and only helping to undermine the process. These leakers need to know how to give information without giving too much information.

  24. Although nobody knows the man ability as a head Coach of any real professional team/ National team I say that the three years contract would have being appropriate but within those three years his performance should also be graded and by the success/failure of our Soca Worries we will definitely know if he will be the man or not in order to take us to the next Gold Cup/ World Cup 2022. Them really good yes.

  25. What do folks think would be a reasonable contract period for Dennis? When would be an appropriate time to assess his performance? What would be appropriate performance metrics to determine how he’s doing and whether we should continue with him or not?

  26. Why DJW don’t coach the team and call it George .

  27. I say Trinidad and Tobago disband the national team for five years, this includes the TTFA

  28. This is a sad and unfortunate moment for TT football because Dennis was always about growth and development in football and clearly all the immediate stakeholders can’t see pass world cup…you clowns lost a remarkable coach and patriot

  29. Lasana Liburd is there a motion to vote no confidence in DJW and force the board to get him out?

  30. I should drop my CV in the morning any body want to be my assistant. Because I can’t see a real coach taking up this job under does circumstances

  31. Earl Best

    Panama – Manama- now tantana?

    Who betting against Tele Santana fuh de next coach?

    Nutten in dis country serious, nutten!

  32. I not even going to waste time getting vex. No surprises here…..nothing to see folks….nothing to see. Just move along….normal TTFA ballsing it up…..

  33. What really wrong with this DJW. Something is definitely wrong with him

  34. Anybody willing to go and protest outside the ttfa office , #DJWOut

  35. Monday will be two months since Hart was sacked.

  36. Lasana Liburd u really over doing it eh brother!! Really over doing it that’s all i will tell you!!

  37. By the time they appoint a coach, the TTFA would have wasted two months, roughly half the time between our last WCQ and the next one.

  38. Even a blind man could see ever since John Williams took over as TTFF president football in TNT took a turn for the worse… Even before he became president he has always been getting himself into problems with both TTFF and TTCB in the past … He needs to resign… What took others years to build is taking just months for John Williams to destroy …. Smh .. He has to go!!!

  39. Why would they even consider using FIFA rankings as a gauge? You could rise or fall without even kicking a ball due to some other country making phenomenal gains.

  40. Lasana Liburd the way Lawrence sounded, the man is not only looking at the world Cup, but also to the development of our football. He is also bringing a qualified team with him as well.

  41. Football is a business now and is sport which our country has been held ransom by businessmen looking to exploit our country for their own personal gain and not what’s best for the sports and sportsmen alike

  42. Tyron Flores have you read dis caca…that man David John-Williams will be the ruination of TT football

  43. Lasana Liburd very good article. I read it in its entirety. Love your work meh brother. I am not surprised by the level of unprofessionalism of the entire TTFA body. It is also very embarrassing for them to treat a fellow football patriot in that manner, by not valuing his work, expertise, experience and competence. Lawrence is right to express that he is not a “quick fix” but is willing to work on development of our football for the long term. Sad, but I’m still not surprised…. #bless

  44. Djw giving us Hart attack
    Like his Hart not in the game

  45. TTFA administration deserve a red card and a five year ban from footballing activities. I thought the ttfa had our football at interest when they hired stephen hart, our football had an identity with him, you fire him for no good reason. You hire a coach that I as a football freak never even heard of,he aint last long. Now allyuh trying to eff up one of we own boys career, he working with the Belgium national you think he bound to quit that job to come back here. It have alot of people in position and just blind.

  46. He related to Dave Cameron by attitude and deeds

  47. I give up…just eff it! It’s too much. Just when we were thinking the technical committee was growing a pair.

  48. Join me in the DJW out chants!

  49. The problem is……even if the Dennis Lawrence appointment were to be salvaged, EVERYONE….including Dennis…will know that the appointment does not have the full support (if any at all) of the President of the TTFA. To that end, any appointment other than his preferred candidate will likely be subject to the same lack of support that the previous coach(s) received from this President.

    On the other hand, if the President gets to have his way and SFC is appointed as Head Coach, then he’ll have the support of the President……but the footballing public at large…not to mention the Technical Committee and members of the Board that did not vote for SFC…will quite rightly question the merit of his appointment.

    The President’s alleged actions have not done anyone any favors….least of all his preferred candidate.

  50. This guy called DJW! Please get him away from our national teams. He is a cancer!

  51. Does any one know if the w connection coaches contracts have clauses that are similar or the same as what was offered in the contract to Dennis Lawrence.

  52. As i said before DJW will feed us the the bread the devil kneed. Well is the same board that put him in the position so all yah take that in you pwafun.

  53. ..In the end, nobody wins. And the real loser here is football..

  54. there is so many things wrong with this statement. we will start with having an agent and yet the negotiation process is treated with such indifference, sabotage and callousness – last minute termination clauses,

    “The breaking point, according to Lawrence’s agent Mike Berry, was termination clauses inserted into the deal on Thursday as well as the TTFA’s failure to allay the prospective coach’s concerns.”

    so is it not common sense to never quit one job before you have sealed and signed paperwork for a second>>>???

    “As far as Lawrence’s team was concerned, it was already a done deal and they only asked the board to give them until 8am [TT time] so he could resign from his two-year contract as Belgium National Senior Team scout.”

    this article is so tedious of a process and hard/[painful to read eh/ it puts my stomach in knots. there was never any good intention here. full of ugly

    ““How can a clause lead to all these problems?” asked the source. “That is a matter of simple negotiation. Something has gone wrong somewhere.””

    simple. sane people dont insert clauses in a contract after it has been tabled, offered , and agreed on principle. Clauses are inserted long before an offer is made

    sigh.

  55. Just let the man hire his partner nah so all this foolishness could stop. Them really good yes because he will sabotage anybody who he does not want.

  56. Somebody PLLEEEASE!!!!….get rid ah da big fat stinking crappo!!!!!!…rell feddup ah this mthrfkr!!!!!

  57. Lasana Kurtwyn they just confirmed MA Pau vs Army in A to starting at 8.
    All other games already in progress Kurtwyn

  58. Kurtwyn, there were changes to the Pro League schedule and I don’t know where to point you I’m afraid.

  59. Lasana Liburd is there a pro league game today? and if so which is the big game?

  60. That is a true third world mentality. Shaking my head in shame.

  61. hahahahahaha “We eh business nah” Them really good yes.

  62. Come on man, carnival in the air and its Friday. Who wants to sit and talk about the next National Coach of Trinidad and Tobago? Who cares that the entire country is longing for a solution to this crisis? Certainly not the TTFA!

  63. Come on man, carnival in the air and its Friday. Who wants to sit and talk about the next National Coach of Trinidad and Tobago? Who cares that the entire country is longing for a solution to this crisis? Certainly not the TTFA!

  64. Watch nah allyuh this whole fiasco if true shows how unprofessional our Association is ,is it a pallor these people feel they running. If I was Dennis I would turn my back and never look back, those terms are atrocious and no professional with a secured long term job will leave there job for those terms for what the sake of patriotism. Hell No! TTFA allyuh feel is a piper coach allyuh hiring no wonder they could only attract people like Santifet or what ever his name was because from the start they don’t have good intentions. I don’t know about you all but I really tired of this association and it unwarranted controversies. If you all don’t know what you doing and can’t administrate then get a consultant who knows to advise you. Lasana boy these articles does raise my blood pressure brother. As for DJW he will do what he have to do to get what he want, won’t be surprise when they announce Stuartie come Monday.

  65. If people are feel overidden by the President then they need to resign.

    Problem with Trinis is we keep accepting the wrong thing and saying “doh study dat”

    I don’t know how they could give an assurance of Monday though. How could they assure that ?
    Smh.

  66. If they really care why dont they allow the public to vote for the new coach ?

  67. More time to plot new schemes.

  68. Popcorn , and cokes required for this one .

  69. Lies and more lies… stop trying to fool people, we know what you’re all about.. corruption bribery match fixing and sabotage … a bunch of sell outs

  70. Camara Mackenson David what they would do???

  71. The dictator paying them … can’t bite the hand that feeds them under the table

  72. TTFA emergency board meeting cancelled…

  73. TTFA emergency board meeting was cancelled. As bizarre as this might sound, apparently there were concerns about whether they would get a quorum due to the short notice.
    I mean on the one hand, we have a former World Cup hero who is leaving a job to help Trinidad and Tobago battle for a World Cup place… But, on the other hand, it’s Friday evening! :-/

  74. Scotty Ranking

    So the annexation of W Connection and the national team is back on! King David has managed to retrieve the supposedly irretrievable and scare Tallest out of taking the post! Wow. I can’t believe this could turn so sour in a matter of two days. this shows the need for a committee which deals with contracts. Was a lawyer involved in this process, preferably one with a background in sports? How can this fall to tatters so quickly with a clear and unreasonable bungling by King David?
    The board should now stick it to him and go with Terry Fenwick as the choice!!!!!!

  75. Same shit I saying stay where you is Lawrence and make a name for urself.Your name down in our history books in a great way I am glad you and the people behind you did not give the TTFA a chance to tarnish it.

  76. Is a ranking thingggg ???
    DJW soca for 2017

  77. How could such incompetence be left unpunished.

  78. Just really like taking meh pictures with all that is involved with our football eh Brian Springer hahahaha

  79. I have gone on record many times about my dissatisfaction with football agents. However, this is a good example of why they are needed. Mike Berry has been around the block enough times to check the small print. It may be the case that Dennis did not see or realize the enormity of this one small clause (mind you, Dennis ain’t wet behind the ears either and would know his way around a contract). But in this instance I feel Berry has earned his salt by protecting his client. But it appears to me that the deal isn’t dead yet. You can always find middle ground. In my opinion, Dexter and DJW should be working around the clock to cement this deal to both sides satisfaction. At least Dennis has shown that he’s no pussy and will stand his ground. For that he has grown even higher in my esteem.

  80. Drink some super greens bri. Lol

  81. I meant Latas

  82. Next thing Lara’s get the wuk oui

  83. Dennis Lawrence is a national of T&T, he knows this country like the back of his hands. After living and working for professionals for so many years, they have to be very foolish to think he would return to this crap. Its safer out there, people keep their word and his money sure.

  84. Sounds like Skeene is being thrown under the bus by the President

  85. Ha! The statement should be more like “The TTFA President in his infinite wisdom wants to appoint a specific coach to head the Senior Men’s National Team…To date he has been frustrated by an unholy union of a traitorous Board a fractured Technical Committee and a Tenacious Sports reporter who’s mole is undetected for the moment… However the President remains committed to having his own way and refuses to be stymied by the actions of these malicious forces who pretend to seek the best interest of T&T football but who continue to reject the will of he who knows best. Rest assured the President WILL have his way and pity those who try to stand in his way. After all if the Donald could do it who is me?”

  86. hahahahahah Alyuh need to stop eh, meh belly hutting meh Them really good yes.

  87. The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) wishes to advise that it’s President has tendered his resignation. It is expected that resignations of other Board members will follow. OH NO IT’S A DREAM!

  88. Contracts are worth nothing in Trinidad and Tobago. Even if they owe you money the courts are useless in expediting a judgement.
    Hockey coaches have not been paid since June 2016 even though the Ministry has given assurances.
    Don’t ask about Track & Field coaches.
    Is Trinidad we living in you know …. why do we want to act like we in a first world country.
    They haven’t even paid the footballers or Stephen Hart.

    • Tony Maxwell, you preach my friend. What did Saintfiet say about we again?

    • When it homes to sports we have so many talented athletes. When it comes to Administrators we have the best of the crop from ‘corruption school’
      Allyu really think they have the athletes in mind. Think again.
      It’s ‘rank’ they want once they get to be President crapaud smoke you pipe.
      If you don’t go along. ..they will undermine you and stop paying you.
      The corruption is in every sport not just football.

  89. This current executive making Jack Warner and he old crew look like angels.

  90. David John Williams like you get paid off by somebody in Concacaf to fck up our chances….Oh how I miss Jack Warner now .

  91. TTFA to football is to what WICB is to cricket….bunch of egomaniacs with no clue how to run a sport and will destroy it.

  92. Bun dong d whole ting and start over.
    If the TTFA was a tooth no self respecting dentist would try and save it. Is straight dentures!

  93. This getting way out of hand now. The whole of TTFA needs to be gone. How could these people sit there and just allow this arrogant man DJW to just walk all over our footballing endeavors, there must be some protocol in place to force a resignation or motion of no confidence against this man. As much as I regret to say this as a Trinidadian if DJW continues to hold his post I cannot support any organization he is in charge of. We as Trinibagonians need to let our cries be heard im one of a million. We should all band together and show our frustration be it boycotting or what it’s way too rediculous now

  94. Thomas Quincy this man trying to run TT football with a closed mindset. Not in the best interest of the team. Before you know it, March qualifiers will be here.

    • I am extremely dissappointed with the chain of events…feeling frustrated bc we have a wealth of gifted players and no significant accomplishments, other than WC 2006, to show for it.. the problem has always been with administration…every sport in trini has d same BS problem with d admin

    • An additional problem is Corporate TT. They are bandwagonist and only invest post success and not in the planning stage. In some ways you can’t blame them because the administration of the sporting federations are far from transparent and don’t seek the sports best interest with their decision making. The structural problems by itself is our athletes biggest opponents.

  95. Hmmm! Can’t even hire a coach!!! What can they do??? FRESH ELECTIONS PLEASE!

  96. Maybe they should wait and announce it on Carnival Monday instead steeuuppsss Them really good yes hahahahahaha

  97. TTFA statement:
    “The Trinidad and Tobago Football Association (TTFA) wishes to advise that the announcement of the newly appointed Head Coach of the Men’s Senior National Team will take place on Monday 23 January 2017.
    “The TTFA has noted the large public interest in the selection of our new National Senior Mens coach and we wish to assure the our supporters and stakeholders, the TTFA Technical Committee is working assiduously to complete the current process, to ensure the most appropriate selection, in the best interest of the National Senior Men’s Team Programme and our ongoing the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign.”

  98. TTFA needs to be a government institution with strict accountability to the people. That’s where real reform starts. No self respecting coach will take this job under this organization. Abolish them now and supplant with a new and professionally-run footballing office.

  99. Ah blaming meh untie Kams for all this set ah madness that is taking place in our sweet country eh, why she had to go and loose the elections eh, dem wudda done picked the next Coach long time. look leh meh call meh uncle Rowley to intervene and fix this madness eh and stop the corrupted TTFA from continuing making us a laughing stock all over the World eh. Them really good yes. hahahahahaha

  100. These set of friggin tin gods in this kissmihass two by four.

  101. Where d “steupse” emoji!!!!

  102. Talk about drama in the TTFA

  103. The whole Technical Committee must go also, not only John Williams. How is he able to dabble in everything. When will the technical committee stand up and make the final decisions.

  104. The TTFA Jeffersons, prime time comedians

  105. Nobody eh try and beat round d country with a broom self?
    It can’t hurt!

  106. Thema/Dick
    Darren Bravo/ QPCC/WICBC
    Coaches/ TTFF
    See the pattern?
    We can’t solve nutten, we hope that it just goes away,…….with plenty prayers .

  107. This is why ah love meh people and wired eh is bacchanal they want eh, well is bacchanal they go get hahahahahahaha

  108. Play yuhself John Williams. Fraud, continuing to destroy the football. Shame on those committee members for being “yes men”. All of them are guilty just as John Williams. So dumbfounded and stupid.

  109. hahahahahahaha @ Vernal Damion Cadogan Them really good yes.

  110. Neisha Daniel Septimus Toussaint Lucas Thomas Jomo I. Johnson dis is de worse i ever read

  111. Scrap the whole country, not one ass working out!

  112. Scrap de damn world cup campaign.Channel the funds to the youth teams.Next worldcup for we!!!

  113. Here we go again around the mulberry bush.

  114. Lawd fadda…. the blind leading the blind…

  115. We like it so eh hahahahhaha and as the new 2017 Carnival Road March song say. “We eh business”…..Maximus Dan. Them really good yes.

  116. Read this entire article..You have a real good source Lasana Liburd. Keep up the good work. DJW will destroy our football.

  117. Does no one find it mysterious that we fail at every juncture?
    It’s not normal and it defies all logic!

  118. Williams here to destroy football in TNT..

  119. Might as well give his bend over buddy fervier a lifetime contract since he wants him there so bad…mother-effing DJW smh

  120. this is interference at the highest level. DJW is clearly letting his personal issues get in the way of common sense.

  121. Anybody noticing a pattern with DJW? Disrespecting a former player, former PREMIER LEAGUE assistant coach and CURRENTLY assisting Roberto Martinez in the Belgian NATIONAL TEAM!? DJW who the f*** are you?? Seriously? This guy is absolutely the WORST human being in the football world.

  122. This is the new Comedy Central. Tune in for a good laugh..

  123. Lasana what did I say about Trinis and a bread and bread sandwich?

  124. A reasonable time for an appraisal would be at the end of the hex. No contract should be given beyond that, especially to a rookie coach. If we bring in a big name coach I can see giving him a guaranteed contract for two years. But nothing more than that.

  125. I’m glad for him.
    Stay far from here Lawrence, stay far!

  126. Now I see what Hart was dealing with…

  127. Dude, stop making me want Jack Warner to comeback!!!

  128. Williams and Skeene continue to play the arse with our football. No wonder our football is in such a parlous state. Mr. Minister not a damn cent until they change the administration.

  129. Lord put ah hand when would this madness end

  130. Seems like if Dennis was unhappy about the offer he needed to sit down and negotiate with the TTFA – put forth a counteroffer and let the negotiation begin. If the two sides decide they’re too far apart on their demands then they both reserve the right to walk away. It’s as simple that. Then again we may be hearing only one side of the story.

    • I think you might have seen that Lawrence did ask for clarification and didn’t get it. And you would note that the changes were made after a deal was agreed and he effectively quit his job.
      Come on Carlos. At least quote from the story properly and not selectively.

    • Lasana – I don’t recall reading in your story where a counteroffer was made. Dennis needed to draft a counteroffer and email or fax it back to the TTFA. He needed to put forth his demands and allow the TTFA sufficient time to review and respond. What’s the rush? Original offer made on Wednesday. I would expect a couple days of negotiations before a final decision is made.

    • Carlos, he asked for clarification and he could not get it.

    • Carlos you are definitely the odd one out in this class. It doesn’t work that way. If clauses were agreed in principle. Then both parties are acting in good faith that the substance for the contract would not change. In this case the clauses were completely different rendering it an entirely new contract.
      Read the story Carlos. Counter offers would have been made to get to a contract in principle.

    • By the way, sometimes depending on the deals and clients contracts are executed in mere hours depending on the sense of urgency and that’s taking into account time zones.

    • Lasana – Gosh man. He asked for clarification and was essentially told I’ll get back with you. Then when he got up in the morning he decided to
      pull out. Did he give the TTFA reasonable time to respond? Aren’t we talking about well over 5 hours difference in time between tnt and Europe? I
      Imagine Trini’s were sleeping when he was up.

    • Reyna – seems like there were no termination clauses in the original contract. Likely an oversight which the TTFA attempted to correct.

    • Reyna – yes. That’s usually when both parties don’t have any issues with the contract. But it’s always good to take the time and read the fine prints. Lawyers are notorious for inserting stuff in the fine prints ?

    • Yes but those are definitely not termination clauses. It’s clear as day to see that this “contract ” was a mere reflection of the Tom Saintfiet fiasco.

      He didn’t even have a proper probationary period in there. Firing a man in 4 months suggest a short term contract.

      Sleep is a non issue, there was a deadline that laurence was going to be hired within. The Trinidad and Tobago coach should have been installed weeks ago. Making this time of the essence

    • Lasana or Somebody else try to help Carlos. You are hard work . Agreeing in principle means they didn’t have issues!! Moving on …

    • When you’re dealing with a corrupt dictator, do you expect negotiations to go smoothly lol

    • Furthermore, the language in the agreement leaves Dennis open to being ridiculed and also staining his name… not to mention the fact that FIFA rankings are volatile and fluctuate often… it was a set up with the dictator … preventative measures taken to ensure his reign on our football… however, placing benchmarks is necessary but the Dictators benchmarks are not worded properly and that was done on purpose to collapse the negotiations.. his goal is not for us to qualify… he’s a house negro that has sold out… no mystery there

    • House negro? That’s a bit uncalled for don’t you think?

    • House negro is uncalled for in my opinion. Those terms are distractions that can easily take conversation into shaky territory.

    • Dennis was surely looking at the future while the President was looking at the next 2 or 3 games. No professional would leave a 2yr contract for a short term contract with the possibility of being out of a job in a couple months. The TTFA is looking for a quick fix of their disastrous firing of Hart and Sainfeit. This is similar to Jack firing St Clair saying that he failed to reach the Gold cup finals, after taking the team the furthest we’ve been. Smh.

  131. ..This has gone too far. The elected officers need to resign. Call a fresh election. Mismanagement and incompetence of this magnitude shouldn’t be allowed to continue..

  132. Wow ……… DJW you sack of ……..

  133. Has there EVER been a more BUNGLING bunch???

    • No contract should be given to any coach without measurable deliveries.

    • Seriously Lyndon…You insert clauses AFTER agreeing terms…And if you read the article Berry & Dennis had no issue with measurable deliverables…But certainly not UNREASONABLE ones!

    • Bri once a contract is no signed then any clause can be amended. Basic business.

    • That actually isn’t how contracts are negotiated. Making changes after agreements are made will get you right where we are – nowhere.

    • THANKS Ken…And Lyndon Let’s call this what it is yet another attempt to install S.C.F. by DJW… frustrating the DL deal.

    • Brian – I have negotiated major contracts with local and international companies. Nobody does this unless they want the negotiation to fail.

    • Ken I beg to differ. I have also been a part of contract negotiations. You can agree in principle or based on a draft received but until that contract is sign off both parties are free to renegotiate or amend clauses in the proposed contract.

    • I will say it again – no major contract is negotiated in that manner. You don’t change or introduce new clauses when you’ve reached agreement in principle unless you are trying to frustrate the contract itself. Then you will end up where we are – nowhere with no contract.

    • I will say it once again, you can . If you agree in principle to a flawed contract, are you saying you are bound by it . That makes no sense.

    • You can be bound by a contract even if it is unsigned under certain conditions Lyndon. So no – you cannot simply state that all terms are negotiable because the contract isn’t signed. And you don’t agree to terms if you feel disadvantaged by them in the first place. In the real world, this isn’t done. I don’t know what you were negotiating or with whom but I am very clear about the process.

    • Ken I will have to disagree with you. Of course a contract can be binding though not signed, cause agreements can be oral. In this case however I am sure that for the contract to be binding it must be signed ,given the nature of this business. Based on the article it seems to me that the terms of the contract were still being negotiated ,therefore both parties were still free to amend proposed clauses.

    • I am quoting UK contract law so this isn’t my opinion. This has nothing to do with oral versus written contracts. The issue centres around the action of the parties. One could argue that once an agreement was reached on the discussion, there was an offer and since he resigned from his job, there was clearly acceptance. He has chosen to refuse to come but from a comtract law perspective, what the TTFA did isn’t acceptable and could well be illegal. I suggest you read up on contract law to fully understand the rulings on matters like these.

    • Like you ken I have read and studied UK contract law and based on what I have read of the story there is no binding agreement on either party. At best there is an offer by one party and an interest expressed by the other, which has now lead to contract negotiations. At this stage both parties are free to make demands of each other until an agreement is reached. Evidence of such could be gleamed from the communication between the parties.

    • It’s a moot point because the TTFA reverted to the previously agreed terms. Not worth continuing the discourse.

  134. What do you all expect.how can you put a cat to guard butter?he owns a club,how in god’s name can he be elected ad president of the fa of TNT?that never happens in another country.

  135. hahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaa