Trinidad and Tobago international gymnast Thema Williams will seek “damages, declarations and relief for all of the wrongdoings” from the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation (TTGF), as attorneys for the 20-year-old athlete served legal notice of her intention today.

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Williams is represented by local attorney Keith Scotland and Canada-based Dr Emir Crowne in the matter.
The attorneys claimed that Williams was the victim of clear bias and numerous attempts in bad faith to deny her the chance to compete at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games. This alleged bias on the part of the TTGF, which is headed by president David Marquez, supposedly culminated in the body’s controversial de-selection of Williams from the April 17 Rio Test event, on the eve of the competition.
Williams was replaced by the TTGF after her coach, John Geddert, revealed that she had a sore ankle and criticised her performance in training in an emailed report on April 15. Geddert subsequently claimed his words were taken out of context.
According to Williams’ contract with the local gymnastics body, she could only have been removed from the competition by the head of delegation after consultation with her coach, Geddert, and relevant medical personnel.
Marquez confirmed at a press conference last Wednesday that the TTGF did not tick all those boxes but countered that the body was forced at act swiftly in the interest of the sport, after concerns about Williams’ health.
The TTGF replaced Williams with 18-year-old alternate, Marisa Dick.

Dick was born in Canada to a Trinidadian mother, Hannifer.
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“Our Client has been the victim of many attempts on the part of the TTGF to thwart her journey to becoming an Olympic athlete representing Trinidad and Tobago,” stated Williams’ legal correspondence. “Our client has a legitimate expectation that the TTGF should act in good faith and in an unbiased manner. Our client avers that this expectation was not met.
“Our Client also possesses certain contractual rights under the Athlete’s agreement. Accordingly, our Client seeks several remedies for these unresolved disputes that have arisen as a result of bad faith and bias on the part of the TTGF, and also breaches of the Athlete’s agreement.”
Scotland and Crowne alleged that the TTGF was biased towards Dick and was “overly oppressive” to Williams.
A posting on the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) website, which was last updated in 2015, listed Dick’s coaches as Ovidiu Serban and Ricardo Lue Shue with Anita Pelletier as choreographer.
Lue Shue, who is the TTGF second vice president, and his wife, Donna Lue Shue, who is the assistant treasurer, were involved in the decision to replace Williams with Dick.

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Donna Lue Shue, according to Dick, called the alternate to personally reveal the belated opportunity to her on the night of Friday April 15.
“We also maintain that the decision by the Federation to withdraw our client was tainted by bias,” stated the legal letter. “(It) cannot be disputed that the Vice President of the TTGF, Mr Ricardo Lue Shue was the coach of Ms. Marisa Dick, who was selected and sent to the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016 at curiously short notice.
“We submit that this decision to withdraw our Client from the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016 should be appreciated in the context of several actions taken on the part of the Federation…
“The sport of gymnastics is one of our Client’s most prized life achievements. Our Client was offered a full Gymnastics scholarship from Michigan State University which should have been taken upon on. However, our Client decided to decline this opportunity since, she had a legitimate expectation of representing Trinidad and Tobago in the 2016 Olympics.
“The Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation has continually made rulings and decisions regarding our Client in an overly oppressive, biased and harsh manner. Their decisions bear the hallmark of those made in bad faith.”

(Courtesy Thema Williams)
The TTGF is represented legally by Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj. The body’s general secretary, Elicia Peters-Charles, declined comment when Wired868 asked if Maharaj was working pro bono or whether the TTGF or even a third party was paying his legal costs.
Williams claimed: a breach of Part I clause III of the Athlete’s agreement (which states that she can only be excused from competition by the head of delegation after consultation with her head coach and medical personnel); unfair treatment, bad faith, bias, consequential damages and several breaches of the principles of natural justice.
As a result, Williams’ attorneys have requested that: she be confirmed as Trinidad and Tobago’s representative for the 2016 Olympics; the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) declare the TTGF’s actions as unfair, biased and made in bad faith; damages be awarded for loss of chance and value of a scholarship to the University of Michigan that she turned down to train for the Olympics; and exemplary damages be awarded.
Should the TTGF fail to respond by 9 am on Wednesday April 27, Williams’ attorneys reserved the right to initiate legal action.
“If no response is received by 9 am local time (3 pm Lausanne time) on Wednesday, April 27, 2016, our client reserves all of her legal rights,” stated the legal letter, “including her right to commence proceedings in any appropriate forum, including the FIG’s Tribunals, the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the High Court of Justice.

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“We intend to seek damages, declarations and relief for all of the wrongdoings and breaches that have accompanied this matter.”
The legal letter was also copied to the TTOC.
TTOC president Brian Lewis revealed yesterday that the body had received confirmation of the TTGF’s sole qualifying spot for the Rio competition.
The local Olympic body has until May 9 to decide if they will take up the berth. Dick is the only gymnast eligible to compete in Rio since Williams, as a result of the TTGF’s decision, did not compete in the Test event.

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Williams’ Case:
We write in respect of Thema Yakaena Williams (hereafter referred to as ‘our Client’) who is represented by myself (Mr Keith Scotland), Mr Raphael Morgan and Mr Reza Ramjohn, all of Virtus Chambers, and Dr Emir Crowne of Crowne Sports Law.
By agreement dated the 25th January 2016, known as the ‘Athlete Agreement for the Test Event at Rio/Olympic Games 2016’ (hereafter referred to as ‘the Athlete’s Agreement’), our Client and the TTGF agreed to be bound to the terms stated therein.
Part III (Other Terms of the Agreement) Clause 4 of the Athlete’s Agreement dated the 25 January 2016 states:
4. Dispute Resolution. All disputes arising out of or connected with this Agreement are subject to resolution exclusively through the procedures set forth in the TTGF Bylaws, and/or, if appropriate, through the grievance procedures of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee.
There are no procedures set out in the TTGF’s bye laws with respect to Dispute Resolution between the Federation and its members. This deprivation in itself is unconstitutional and a breach of natural justice.

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Accordingly, and pursuant to the above clause in the Athlete’s agreement, we are formally invoking the grievance procedures set out in clause 31 of the Constitution of the Trinidad and Tobago Olympics Committee. Clause 31 provides as follows:
I. All affiliated National Sports Organisations may submit to the Trinidad and Tobago Olympics Committee for settlement all disputes/conflicts within their Organisation, which such Organisation deems to be unresolved, subject to their respective constitutions and subject to the rules of their respective International Federations to which they are affiliated.
II. The Council shall within seven 7 days of receipt of submission appoint such one or more of its members (not exceeding three) to sit as arbitrators to consider the representations of the parties to the dispute/conflict.
III. The committee should invite the parties to appear before the arbitrator(s) and present their case in writing or verbally.
IV. The decision of the Arbitrators shall be delivered to the parties within 30 days of the date of receipt of the submission.
V. Any decision made by the Arbitrator(s) on behalf of the Council may be submitted exclusively by way of Appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Laussanne, Switzerland, which will resolve the dispute definitely in accordance with the Code of Sports related Arbitration. The time limit for Appeal is twenty-one days after the reception of the decision concerning the appeal.

(Courtesy Ministry of Sport and Youth Affairs)
Having regard to the Federation’s decision to withdraw our Client from the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016, which was made on or about the 16th April 2016 and communicated by e- mail to our Client’s coach, Mr. John Geddert on the 16th April 2016 at 12:27 a.m., several disputes under the Athlete’s agreement have now arisen. Several breaches of our own obligations to the FIG itself have also arisen.
Despite previous correspondence and protestations by and on behalf of our Client (including a formal Statement of Appeal delivered by ourselves on April 16th, 2016, which has gone unanswered), these disputes continue to be unresolved.
Accordingly, please find enclosed a Notice of Unresolved Disputes between our Client and the Federation, which arise out of/or are connected with the Athlete’s Agreement, and your own agreement to be bound by the rules of the FIG.
In any event, and having regard to the Federation’s demonstrated predisposition and bias against our Client (particulars of which are set out in the enclosed Notice), we have copied this correspondence to the TTOC and other relevant parties.
We request the Federation’s urgent undertaking in writing that it shall immediately initiate and participate in the Dispute Resolution procedures as set out above.

(Courtesy Heritage Radio)
We trust that the Federation will respond with the greatest of urgency so as to ensure that these disputes are resolved well in time for the 2016 Olympics, and that our Client’s chances to compete in those games are not unduly impeded or frustrated.
If no response is received by 9 am local time (3 pm Lausanne time) on Wednesday, April 27th, 2016, our client reserves all of her legal rights, including her right to commence proceedings in any appropriate forum, including the FIG’s Tribunals, the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the High Court of Justice. We intend to seek damages, declarations and relief for all of the wrongdoings and breaches that have accompanied this matter.
Please govern yourselves accordingly.
Sincerely,

(Copyright GECCU)
Unresolved Disputes
Background:
The unresolved disputes that we have set out below are grounded in our Client’s unfair treatment as a Member in good standing of the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation (TTGF).
Our Client has been the victim of many attempts on the part of the TTGF to thwart her journey to becoming an Olympic athlete representing Trinidad and Tobago.
Our client has a legitimate expectation that the TTGF should act in good faith and in an unbiased manner. Our client avers that this expectation was not met. Our Client also possesses certain contractual rights under the Athlete’s agreement.
Accordingly, our Client seeks several remedies for these unresolved disputes that have arisen as a result of bad faith and bias on the part of the TTGF, and also breaches of the Athlete’s agreement.

Summary of Events:
Prior to the World Artistic Gymnastics Event in Glasgow, Scotland, there was an agreement between the athletes and the TTGF that the highest scoring athlete at this event would proceed to compete at Olympic Test Event.
In this event, which took place in October 2015, our Client scored the highest of all other contenders from Trinidad and Tobago. In spite of our Client’s accomplishment, the Federation hesitated in making an official announcement.
The TTGF remained silent on the issue for a prolonged period thereafter. The hesitancy of the TTGF to make this declaration speaks to the manner in which decisions are made within this Federation. It was in fact the Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) that officially announced that our Client would move on to the Olympic Test Event.
Our Client was finally selected to proceed to the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016.
By agreement dated the 25th January 2016, known as the ‘Athlete Agreement for the Test Event at Rio/Olympic Games 2016’, it was acknowledged that our Clients performance in the 2015 World Championships in Glasgow, Scotland qualified her as the athlete slated to compete for Trinidad and Tobago in the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016.
That agreement set out the terms and conditions of our Client’s participation in the said event as well as the Federation’s powers and duties in respect of our Client’s participation.

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Soon thereafter, a story then emerges and receives public attention that our Client posted revealing photographs on social media. Though these photographs were manifestly artistic in nature, The Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation sought to magnify the gravity of the matter.
Our Client was also sent written correspondence stating that the matter was being referred to the Disciplinary Committee.
After many weeks of uncertainty, the TTGF, having maintained a loud silence, was forced to allow the status quo to prevail. This decision came after widespread protest that our Client’s rights were being infringed.
Our Client insisted, and remains adamant, that she did nothing wrong.
Our Client travelled to Rio de Janiero in order to compete in the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016. On the 15th April 2016 at 7.24 pm, our Client’s coach sent an e-mail correspondence to a one Ms Frances Dow, who is the International Relations Officer at the TTGF. In this correspondence, he provided a status update.
In response to this e-mail, on the 16th April 2016 at 12:27 a.m., the President of the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation, Mr David Marquez, communicated to our Client’s Coach that ‘the Federation had unanimously decided to pull Thema from the Test Event. Arrangements are being made to have the alternate Marissa [sic] Dick compete.’

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That decision was in breach of Part I Clause 3 of the Athlete agreement.
Under part I (Athlete’s Obligations) Clause 3 of the Athlete’s Agreement, in order for an Athlete to be withdrawn, the Head of the Delegation must excuse that athlete. The Head of the Delegation must also consult with the Athlete’s Coach and Medical Practitioner before making the decision to withdraw the Athlete from the event.
The TTGF is not empowered to withdraw an athlete. The TTGF agreed with our Client that the power to withdraw is to be exercised, by the Head of the Delegation, who must consult with certain named officials before making a decision. In any event, even if the TTGF had the power to withdraw our Client (which is denied), it still did not consult a medical expert and/or our Client’s coach.
That breach is clear and unequivocal. It is evidenced by the fact that Mr. David Marquez, in his email of 16th April 2016 at 12.27 am, states that ‘We do suggest that Thema be taken to the meet physician to report on the extent of her injury. We would appreciate a copy of that report’.
We also maintain that the decision by the Federation to withdraw our client was tainted by bias. (It) cannot be disputed that the Vice President of the TTGF, Mr Ricardo Lue Shue was the coach of Ms Marisa Dick, who was selected and sent to the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016 at curiously short notice.

Lue Shue will act as Marisa Dick’s coach in Brazil.
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We submit that this decision to withdraw our Client from the Rio Olympic Test Event 2016 should be appreciated in the context of several actions taken on the part of the Federation. It is one of many actions taken on the part of the Federation to victimize our Client.
The sport of gymnastics is one of our Client’s most prized life achievements. Our Client was offered a full Gymnastics scholarship from Michigan State University which should have been taken upon on.
However, our Client decided to decline this opportunity since, she had a legitimate expectation of representing Trinidad and Tobago in the 2016 Olympics.
The Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation has continually made rulings and decisions regarding our Client in an overly oppressive, biased and harsh manner. Their decisions bear the hallmark of those made in bad faith.
It is on this basis that our Client has outlined several unresolved disputes with the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation.

Williams was in line to be Trinidad and Tobago’s first gymnast to perform at an Olympic Games.
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Any objective observer would reasonably come to the conclusion that the Federation was predisposed against our Client competing in the 2016 Olympics and was favourably disposed to Ms Marisa Dick competing in same.
An objective observer would also reasonably come to the conclusion, in all of the circumstances, that the action taken by the Federation to withdraw our Client in breach of the established and agreed procedure and to send instead an athlete who Coach is the Vice President of the Federation is unsportsmanlike, contrary to the ideals of the Olympics, and is plainly wrong.
Our Client’s Unresolved Disputes:
1.Breach of Part I clause III of the Athlete’s agreement;
2. Unfair treatment of our Client by the Federation and the consequent rescission of the Athlete’s Agreement was done in bad faith and/or was tainted by bias;
3.Consequential Damages; and
4.Several breaches of the principles of Natural Justice.

(Courtesy Thema Williams)
Our Client Claims The Following:
1.That our Client be confirmed as the Olympic athlete to represent Trinidad and Tobago in the 2016 Olympics;
2.AdeclarationfromtheTrinidadandTobagoOlympicsCommitteethatthoseactions in contention, which were taken by the Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation in this matter, were unfair to our Client and were decisions that were biased and made in bad faith;
3.Damages including damages for loss of chance and value of the aforementioned scholarship; and
4.Exemplary damages.
Our Client reserves the right to add and/or amplify the aforementioned grounds at, or before, the arbitration proceedings.

Lasana Liburd is the managing director and chief editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.
Well done Thema
Way to go Thema !!!
It’s the federation not them personally would be held responsible. If they disband, what’s the situation then?
Hmmmm
True if the rats abandon ship, what can be done? Can this be taken up with them personally? Both from the athletes’ standpoint & the ministry of sport?
I’d hate to think a small group of people came & basically crashed a federation, leave the carnage & walk away scott free.
I don’t know what the regulations are but they must never be allowed to hold an executive position in any otrganisation again. The powers that be need to enact legislation if there is no mechanism in place.
That’s all? No recourse for what they did in the past? Grrrr.
I hear too many stories of these kind of people doing illegal acts only to resign, then their name pops up somewhere else within a year in a similar position. Trinidad allows too much crap.
Yup, in the UK if you are a director etc in a business that goes bankrupt you are banned for 7 years from holding similar position, meanwhile in sweet T and T……..
Good point
Guh! Reminds me of a principal of a secondary school, ‘allegedly’ stole the $$$ the school raised to build their 2nd building & buss it.
Years later we hear her name pop up….working a big job in ministry of education no less. *$/#@/&&#!/$@!
We definitely have to bring change
Excellent move!
Excellent deal with their matters no integrity and proper ethical values
Good luck Thema. Make them pay xx
At the end of the day it all comes down to skin tone.
Not ability
I wondered about that. …..
Not this time Johnny.
Kerrie Hector , then you have yourself the question why is it we holding on to a swimmer that’s approaching 30. And still think he can improve his time
Thought he was past 30. I maintain he’s past it and once again George, prove me wrong.
Johnny Sombrerro Woooahhh!! Nah start up on George. The man still performing, regardless of age. There’s nobody here (white, black or orange) that can’t say George isn’t a true Trini sporting hero. Get back to the topic at hand!
Some of us only see race on everything. We accuse others on race but some of us stand accused of the very same thing. Show me a Trinidad and Tobago national that is better than George Bovell in the past 10 or right now. As far as I can see he has represented our country with honor and he is a true Legend in swimming in this country. Plain an simple.
No ,I don’t think so .Sadly it’s far more petty and mean than that .Someone with an agenda finds a Johnny ( “Janey” ) come lately to shatter the dreams of a dedicated hard working ,long suffering young lady.
TTGF will not be in the clear. They still have a lot to answer. People should be pushing for the entire Federation to resign. It won’t give Thema back her place but it will give a level of satisfaction
There is no replacing what has been brutally stolen from Thema, but I am relieved to hear she is proceeding in seeking some sort of justice.
Up until now, the TTGF has not had to answer to anyone. Now that their loose strings are being pulled their big ball of lies is starting to unravel.
There is no chance that Thema can go to Rio now. TTGF and Marisa’s coaches have unjustly secured the spot for Marisa. Marisa will benefit from the bad actions of her team. It’s all wrapped up, and they are on to promoting Marisa’s image in a more favorable light.
Part of The Olympic Athlete’s Oath:
“I promise that we shall take part in these Olympic Games, respecting and abiding by the rules which govern them”
I don’t see how the TTOC can NOT decline the spot. If Marisa is allowed to proceed to the Olympics, It’s a mockery of everything the Olympics stands for.
Thema cannot go to the Olympics, But the TTOC can still make it somewhat right for her, and TT, by taking a stand an honoring the rules of the games.
Thanks for covering this…
I expect a precedent to be set counsel!
Damn right
Deal with the wrong doing …..
She will make them poor
Does the athlete’s contract have any clause with regard to a timeframe within which the coach had to notify the TTGF of possible withdrawal to allow for discussion?
The TTGF doesn’t do timeframes. There is no time frame for its disciplinary action against Thema for photos either.
In theory, they can commence action tomorrow and ban her from all gymnastics.
Ok. Well in that case I think it might make it easier for the TTGF to argue that it acted reasonably regardless of the procedures outlined in the contract.
Contracts aren’t supposed to back you into a corner. And given the time constraints with respect to getting the alternate to rio, the fact that Geddert said Thema had been having an ankle issue and made no mention of it prior to the final report which came after 7pm on the night before competition… I think works in their favour.
It says the TTGF cannot act until it did those things Chabeth. How does that give them license to act and then meet the criteria for acting after the fact?
But you also cannot entrap the TTGF by not giving reasonable notice. You cannot hold them ransom.
All sorts of factors will come into the equation now.
Why didn’t Geddert mention the ankle problem in either of the two previous reports? What time did he send his two previous reports? Did he send follow ups to the two previous reports? Should the TTGF have expected a follow up to the third report given established precedence?
It is very damaging to say that an athlete will have to rely on heart to perform. And I think the severity of Geddert’s words has been lost. Ask any coach or administrator what there reaction would be if they were told that. The night before a competition. To get their sport their first Olympic placing.
Ramesh is a very good lawyer.
I hope Thema gets her just due. But I’m saying it’s not hard to argue that the TTGF acted reasonably.
The only thing I think would absolutely kill them is if it’s proven that Marisa had a plane ticket prior to the third email.
But you can’t wait till the last hour to provide damaging news, knowing what would be required in terms of time to get the alternate there and say that you acted wholly reasonable in giving the TTGF time to properly address the situation.
Marisa had to leave Canada by a certain time.
And Geddert’s rant about the danger to Marisa given the travel time and little rest before competition suggests that he did not expect her to be called in to replace Thema. So the question becomes did Geddert act fairly to the TTGF and Marisa by providing the first “bad news” at the final hour when there was opportunity to do so before? And did the TTGF have just cause to be concerned based on his email? Everybody has to act in good faith. Not just the TTGF.
But like I said I hope she gets her just due and that the technicality of the procedure gives her the edge but I can hear Ramesh’s arguments.
It’d also be interesting to know if Ramesh was retained by the TTGF before or after they pulled Thema.
They said after they pulled Thema.
You go girl!!!!!!!
No sure this makes sense except to make a point. Thema can’t go to Rio and TTGF doesn’t have money to pay if the suit succeeds. If they lose Thema loses her team will be saddled with a large legal bill.
Sooo … sit back and do nothing? Like hell …. get after the bastards!!
It’s either Thema or no one. You just cannot ups and ruin someone’s career just like that. The writing was on the wall that a last minute stunt like this was on the cards and the slightest excuse the TTGF would jumped on it. The TTGF is wrong,wrong, wrong and i’m behind Thema 100%. Go get them girl.
Why people making this about money is beyond me…if it’s proven that the TTGF acted unfairly and shattered Thema’s dream simply to allow Marisa to accomplish hers..then I’m sure we can see money was never the issue here…a little something called justice, perhaps?
Amen. Sue their asses off off.
Make them pay! Talk the kind of money jearlene talking!!
Have been unable to access site since last night
Colin, I applied for upgraded package from HostGator about a week ago. They are taking their time. Hope this doesn’t continue for long.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
So much traffic Lasana? That’s great news ?
Great! This whole situation is just too upsetting esp since the bias and deception is so clear. Seriously, they were perfectly fine when Ms. Dick stated that she could have performed with a rib injury for Worlds I think and when Ms. Williams coach stated she could have performed well at the test event despite training performances being poor due to ankle soreness, TTGF was ‘concerned’ for Thema’s health Smh
Danielle, those Rio trips for the Test Event (Marisa’s and Lue Shue’s) were never paid for by the TTGF, according to the Executive. That was clarified in their last press conference, if I’m not mistaken. Abeo and Ian should be able to confirm those details as they were present.
He never disclosed at the conference
I think it was at the i95 interview then
I cant remember them ever commenting on that. I have to go back and check.
Abeo Jackson we asked he declined to comment
Yes but he must have some expectation of being reimbursed – if indeed it was official and all legit as they claim, wouldn’t he? If it is that the TTGA is found to be in the wrong, I would well imagine that no reimbursement wld take place. But all speculation on my part! The truth shall surface particularly now that legal action has taken place!
I just do want this to be two things a race card on sports and a Nancy Kerrigan Ana Tania Harrting issue
I take it you mean “do NOT want this to be”. And I fully agree.
Righ right sorry for the mis typing, but I really want to see both girl represent T&T in Rio
Lol. Well that one wish won’t come true. It is either Marisa Dick or nobody. There is no other option.
Well let’s give her the support and not look to bash her, she is just a victim as Thema Williams, cuz TTGF backed her, she basically became a pon in the game
Hahahaha Lasana Liburd I mean who wants to see it be either of those things!
Drexel, if the TTOC rules that the TTGF unfairly cut Thema, it will mean that Marisa benefited from an injustice. And then it will be likely that she will be removed.
It is either the TTGF was right to cut Thema and Marisa goes. Or the TTGF was wrong and nobody goes.
Hard to see another outcome.
That isn’t spite. It is justice. The law doesn’t allow people to benefit from an illegal act, even if someone else did the illegal act.
Thank u Lasana.
with no audit for 10 years ,whaaaaaaaat, this is my question why do government continuoulsy give out money to sporting bodies and there is no accountability. Example, I may be wrong but correct me, If as the government I give 500,000 in Septermber 2014 to a sporting body, is it not my reesponsibilty to ensure I am provided with an audit by Nov-Dec 2015. If not, you have no money to get. We do the same things over and over and get the same results. Governments come Governments go and do the same thing. A citizen who runs a parlour dont do this . is it because is taxpayers monies governments and friends don’t care. Roberts and Creed was in Sports doing what? Where is the Permananet secretaries, all these monies are disburse under their watch, No accountabilty, when such matters arise as seen in the PP government, simply transfer PS. Ps travel with Ministers, Money disappered in Communication under a PS, she was transferred , beleive same Ps went to Brazil without permission, she was simply transferred, Guess wher to the PM Office. Moral decay,and then you want to know why young people behave they way they do , who are they emulating? why study and work hard and you could steal and be corrupt and be rewarded .we see children failing in schools and parents rewarding them with all the latest technology , or driving an audi or BMW to school.
If the TTGF is found guilty of wrong doing, and/or Thema some how gets reinstated? Who foots the bill for Marisa’s and Lue Shue’s spur of the moment trip to Rio?
Good point Moe 😉
Maybe the same ‘good samaritan’ who paid for Dick’s last minute flight to Rio ?
Nice man!
What kind of response do they want by 9 am on Wednesday April 27, before taking legal action? That statement is confusing
Well they want the TTGF to name her for the Olympics, Mel. If i took my cue from that, I would say they want the TTGF’s heart on a platter.
Knowing that it can’t be done makes it confusing.
Reminds me of a great line in No Country for Old Men, Mel.
The villain murders someone in front of a witness. The witness asks: Are you going to kill me too?
The killer responds: It depends. Can you see me?
???
hahaha
Trust that you read a lot of Sherlock Holmes.
Has Thema undergone a comprehensive medical evaluation of her injury since the controversial decision? It would seem to me that this could establish conclusively whether or not there was merit in her withdrawal.
In this case, I think the TTGF has to prove that its decision was made after consultation with coach and medical practitioner.
You can make the right choice using a flawed procedure. By law, that might make it the wrong decision.
Methinks.
Perhaps, but in many instances decision makers are expected to exercise judgment in the absence of ALL the facts, especially where there is a serious time constraint. The existence (or absence) of any serious injury might well determine whether or not the judgment of the TTGF in this case was flawed, or worse.
Well, the coach’s report didn’t even point to a serious injury. It said a sore ankle. So I am not sure how far that report would take them in court.
All the coach said about the injury was that it was sore and he would tailor training to suit and he still expected her to be fine to compete.
Lasana, that’s my point – if indeed the injury was nothing more than a sore ankle and a comprehensive medical were to confirm such it would seriously invalidate the TTGF’s decision to withdraw Thema. And vice versa.
I don’t think it would invalidate Thema’s argument even if it is proven to be serious. Because there are rules about how they must come to their decision.
In any case, a TTGF official said the doctor said her participation was up to the body. Which seems to suggest that she wasn’t in tip top shape but wasn’t bad enough to be ruled out.
Bizarrely, they said that decision was communicated verbally. That is the strangest thing I’ve ever heard.
A verbal clean-ish bill of health? Nothing is ever straightforward in gymnastics apparently.
Does it matter whether Thema is serviced Pro Bono? I think not! By the way, earlier in this fiasco, If I recall correctly, TTGF had a problem acquiring legal representation Pro Bono. Additionally, there is a hint in the air that TTGF’s accounting books are non-existent or in disarray… TTGF’s troubles are not over after this lawsuit, in my book… LOL
even more interesting!
Lol
Are Thema’s lawyers working pro bono?
That is a good question. I assumed that to be the case but will follow up and answer definitively.
“The TTGF is represented legally by Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj. The body’s general secretary, Elicia Peters-Charles, declined comment when Wired868 asked if Maharaj was working pro bono or whether the TTGF or even a third party was paying his legal costs.”
They should have thought of that before they did what they did. I am sure they use have expected that Thema would sue them
Great!
This is ridiculous. Where the TTGF going to get money to pay damages?
Lawsuits are not always about what you can earn financially though.
Lasana… u realize that’s a JW argument for a lawsuit? Lmao
Lasana Liburd What is this one about? Does she want to force the board to resign? That’s all I could come up with.
Remember when Ken Gordon sued Basdeo Panday after being called a pseudo-racist? He gave the money to charity.
It is fact. Sometimes it isn’t about money.
Lasana Liburd Yeah. But Gordon got money.
She hasn’t answered those questions yet Erline. I suspect more will be said after the deadline expires.
But he did not do it for money Erline. That’s the point. Not every decision is about what you can earn. Maybe it is about standing up for yourself or having an independent party prove that you were right and the other side was wrong.
I would never encourage someone to meekly accept what they think to be an injustice.
Lasana Liburd Lawsuits cost money to contend. If you lose you may have to pay defendants’ costs. Unless you’re very rich, you have to consider the financial viability of the case.
That doesn’t make it a bad idea. It is just whether you can afford it or not. Maybe she got a good offer in terms of legal costs.
Lasana Liburd A question I have is this: Is she getting financial support for legal fees from the people who are championing her cause?
You are assuming that she needs help for legal fees. That should be the first question. But that’s her business anyway.
I’ve no doubt people would help fund her.
I’ve seen people show their generosity with Akeem Adams for instance.
I suspect it’s bluster from Scotland. We’ll see.
Can’t see people giving financial support unless the possible end result makes sense eg in favor if Thema makes sense. Erline is right TTGF won’t have the money ton pay damages if they lose
I am with Lasana Liburd, it is not always about the money. One possible outcome could be to make ALL such bodies more accountable in future. That would be a cause worth supporting financially whatever the material outcome of this particular case. In fact, much significant litigation is premised on exactly that idea.
It is about fighting and calling out impunity.
Bless you Julie! 🙂
Let them wash some cars if they are found liable. Not to mention if they are liable SPORTT should have sufficient grounds to stop funding.
Lasana Liburd Totally agree. It isn’t always about the money. It’s about principle and standing up for your rights. Go get them Thema for ruining your dream.
She’s quite right
Lasana..So how can Williams’ attorneys requested that she be confirmed as Trinidad and Tobago’s representative for the 2016 Olympics
I guess they are making a point for what would count as fair justice in this case. Maybe it is deliberate for the Judge to consider that there can never really be adequate justice in the case.
Maybe.
ok..I just saw “Dick is the only gymnast eligible to compete in Rio since Williams, as a result of the TTGF’s decision, did not compete in the Test event.”
Damn right
She has alright too
Can she be reinstated according to the demands?
No, she can’t. They’re giving them an unsolvable riddle there. Lol.
I myself can’t solve this riddle
I think it is just that you return something if you have been found to have stolen it.
But what happens when you can’t return it? Then the Judge has to be creative with your tail.
Maybe that’s the game here.
Well done!! I hope she takes them to the cleaners.
Wring it down in dem HARD !!!
Let’s get ready to ruuuummmmmbbbbblllleee!?
https://www.facebook.com/abeo.jackson.9/posts/10100139477852234
Who was it who said that “Yuh could run but yuh cyar hide”? And “Wha miss yuh doh pass yuh”?
Man go be looking fuh hole from today, mark-quez my words.
So, I asked this on another feed, but does this lawsuit hold solely the TTGF responsible or can Marquez, Peters-Charles & the Lue Shues be responsible personally in the event that they remove themselves from the executive committee of the TTGF?
That’s the biggest flaw with sporting bodies. Same for Cameron and WICB. The administrators are not personally responsible.
Lasana Liburd that’s VERY unfortunate. So if they resign, what happens?
but the body can be bankrupted…and that takes the body out oft he game.
in my understanding, if the body survives, the body can take action against the executive members if they have been shown to have broken rules atet then cost the body money.
It would parallel Petrortin taking Malcom Jones to Court. The Gov’t couldn’t do it…it had to be done by the company…
interesting! Can the fact that the Lue Shues and Marquez personally twarted her opportunity using the TTGA to do so make them culpable and if so can they be sued in a civil court?
Gotcha!
Kwesi Prescod, I know that to be the case in fraud. Not necessarily incompetence. Sporting associations are not governed by anything like the company act.
Different kettle of fish I think.
ahhh ok you answered my next question – which was who governs the TTGA, as my daughter is a member, they are really only accountable to them? Really need to get a copy of their constitution.
The TTGF constitution is recommended reading if you like horror movies. 😉
hahahaha
I found the constitution btw Lasana Liburd shld make for good bedtime reading? Lol
The university scholarship offer came after she qualified for the test event?
No. Before. I’m assuming they are thinking of the opportunity cost of her training for the Olympics.
Uh uh uh… We’ll see I guess.
patiently and correctly ……….
Yessss! Sue them!