The Trinidad and Tobago Gymnastics Federation (TTGF) will be represented at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games by Marisa Dick. Or by nobody.
The Trinidad and Tobago Olympic Committee (TTOC) and the local gymnastics body confirmed to Wired868 today that, based on information from the International Federation of Gymnastics (FIG), only one athlete is now allowed to represent the two island republic in Brazil.

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And it is not 20 year old Thema Williams, who left her Diego Martin home two years ago and migrated to Michigan, United States where she snubbed a sport scholarship to dedicate her life to getting to Rio.
On Saturday morning, on the eve of the Rio Test event on April 17, TTGF president David Marquez informed the FIG that Williams’ name was to replaced with Dick’s on the grounds of injury.
Marquez’s decision, which supposedly was a unanimous one by the gymnastics board, was taken without consultation with Williams, head of delegation and physiotherapist Nicole Fuentes, coach John Geddert or a medical certificate.
It could yet go down as one of the most controversial moments in Trinidad and Tobago’s sporting history and certainly in gymnastics.
The TTGF comprises of president Marquez, general secretary Elicia Peters-Charles, first vice president Akil Wattley, second vice president Ricardo Lue Shue—who was president of the body from 2008 to 2015 and served as Dick’s coach in Rio—treasurer Susanne Babooram and Lue Shue’s wife, Donna Lue Shue, who serves as assistant treasurer.

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A tweet by TTOC president Brian Lewis, shortly after Dick wrapped up the straightforward qualification process, suggested that there might be a glimmer of hope for Williams.
“As long as people understand its @TTOlympic that has the final say in respect of #TeamTTO selection for the Olympic Games,” tweeted Lewis. “Plain talk.”
The relationship between the TTOC and the TTGF has been strained for months.
When the local gymnastics body sent Williams to its disciplinary committee for a topless photo, on 23 February, and suggested she might pay the ultimate price for the supposed indiscretion, Lewis publicly pointed out that Williams—and not Dick—was the chosen athlete for the Rio Test event.
The TTGF’s response was bullish.
“Brian Lewis cannot say that (Williams) has to go,” said a TTGF member then, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “He cannot tell the Federation who can go to the Olympics.”

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This morning, Lewis pointed to Clause 27.3 of the Olympic charter, which suggested otherwise:
“The NOCs have the exclusive authority for the representation of their respective countries at the Olympic Games and at the regional, continental or world multi-sports competitions patronised by the IOC…”
The TTOC president explained that it would not be unprecedented for the local body to overrule a National Sporting Organisation (NSO), although they traditionally always strive for a collaborative approach.
“We have the right to designate and identify players,” Lewis told Wired868. “While we respect the autonomy of the respective sporting association, we have our own due diligence.
“This is the first time gymnastics has reached this far and they will not be accustomed to what the Olympic Committee can do in this process.
“They may not be unaware of rule 27 but it is an unambiguous rule in terms of what we can do. There is no argument there as far as we are concerned.”

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The gymnastics board might be many things. But, as the events of the past six months suggest, the TTGF is neither naive or uninformed.
As the social media buzzed about what Lewis’ tweet might mean to the unfolding drama, the gymnastics board put a call through to the FIG at about 11 pm last night, just to confirm what its members already knew.
It would have been roughly 5 am in Lausanne, Switzerland—where the FIG is headquartered—but, according to the gymnastics insider, the TTGF got the answer it was looking for.
“The spot is Marisa’s,” said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “It is an individual spot. When you do the Test event and you get through, that spot remains in your name.
“If you get sick and cannot take that spot, you cannot transfer it. That spot then goes to a reserve.”
And then came the clincher. The TTGF, according to the source, was not at all blindsided by Lewis’ tweet and had long been aware of the powers granted to the TTOC by the Olympic charter.

Dick placed 14th with a total of 51.25.
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“We recognise that the TTOC has the final say on whether gymnastics will compete in the Olympic Games,” said the source. “It is out of the Federation’s hands completely. It is up to the TTOC to decide.
“I expect that the TTGF will do their part (in the selection process) and participate fully (with the TTOC).”
The Trinidad and Tobago gymnastics fraternity has never qualified for the Olympics before. It has done so now.
But it will be the TTOC or, more accurately, the body’s games management committee of Annette Knott, Ian Hypolite, Diane Henderson and Dr Terry Ali, who will have to figuratively look the 18 year old Dick in the eye and say that they prefer to send nobody to the Olympics than to send her.
Arguably, the TTGF has engineered a lose-lose position for the TTOC. The National Olympic Committee (NOC) must either send Dick to Rio or stop history in the making for gymnastics.
Once more, the momentous decision looks likely to be played out with no meaningful input from Sport Minister Darryl Smith.

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Smith, who has steadfastly refused to attempt moral persuasion, told I95.5FM today that he will not stop State funding to the gymnastics body, despite a petition asking him to do so in response to the TTGF’s machinations.
“I cannot do that,” said Smith, in a rare interview on the subject, “we have a funding policy which I am guided by…”
Lewis and the TTOC, which is legally advised by Elton Prescott SC, had considered—at least theoretically—all possible scenarios, including the option of refusing to send a gymnast to Rio.
Whether Lewis ever thought it would come to that—or considered this option as a mere bluff—is another story.
“We have sent back selections (from NSOs) in the past on the basis that it didn’t meet the agreed criteria,” said Lewis, “which might have been beep test (fitness) scores or what have you…
“There may be reasons why a NOC may not take up a place if it feels the sporting body isn’t properly prepared and so on.”
It might be a stretch to question Dick’s fitness or suggest that she is not properly prepared for international competition.

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Lewis gave some more insight into the duty of his games management committee.
“When the games management committee meets, there will be a particular checklist they will go through,” Lewis told Wired868. “They will check things like athlete eligibility, age requirements, the qualification standard established by FIG…
“The process under which an alternate could change…”
If Marquez’s decision at 12.27 am on Saturday April 16 is deemed to be unfair to Williams, then Dick could logically be ruled to have benefited from an act of injustice.
It would mean the process that led to Dick’s Olympic qualification is flawed. And, as a result, the TTOC could deny her the chance to further reap the rewards of it.
Williams’ attorney, Keith Scotland, has hinted at legal action against the TTGF for denying his client the chance to perform.
Scotland described the TTGF’s decision as: “irrational, illegal and null and void.”

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If Williams decides to stand up for herself against the gymnastics body’s perceived unjust act, it could put further pressure on the TTOC and open them up to legal action if they endorse Dick.
If the TTOC does not select Dick, there is the chance that either Dick or the TTGF could sue on the grounds that, as Lewis conceded: “Marisa Dick now has a legitimate expectation of performing at the Rio Olympics.”
Lewis said, although the TTOC can only select one athlete for Rio, the local Olympic body does not now become a rubber stamp.
“All that changes is the option that the TTOC will have, that’s all,” said the TTOC president. “What does not change is the right and duty of the TTOC under rule 27.”
Once the FIG officially informs the TTOC of its quota for the Rio Olympics, the local body will have two weeks to decide whether or not to use its lone spot.
It will be Dick or nothing.

Dick was born in Canada to a Trinidadian mother, Hannifer.
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At 11.30 pm on Tuesday April 19, Williams returns from Rio and lands at the Piarco International Airport.
She will not return to Rio in August for the Olympic Games.
Yesterday, in her first public statement since she was unceremoniously replaced by Dick, Williams, a budding art student, painted a dreadlocked man smoking with the words: “Love is destructive.”
Beneath, she wrote: “What’s bad for my heart is good for my art. I’ll be alright.”
There was an Instagram photo too of the former St Joseph’s Convent (Port of Spain) student at Rio’s famous statue of Christ the Redemer with a Trinidad and Tobago flag.

(Courtesy Thema Williams)
At the top of Williams’ Twitter page, she had pinned another quote: “Who Jah Bless, no man curse.”

Lasana Liburd is the managing director and chief editor at Wired868.com and a journalist with over 20 years experience at several Trinidad and Tobago and international publications including Play the Game, World Soccer, UK Guardian and the Trinidad Express.
Stomps table…well said
I don’t care if it is vindictive or not. Why should taxpayers fund an undemocratic body that does not act in the best interest of its athletes?
Let Smith put his own salary in there if he likes. But I object to using my taxes in that way.
wait people prefer we turn down a spot at the olympics? smh.
The way it was obtained? Hell yes.
I concur we cannot allow this to go unabated. This was a calculated and meticulous plot to remove thema from representing her country which she worked long and hard for. Why should they deny this girl. No one goes.
Marisa Dick going. TTOC have no legal grounds to deny her.
Yes
If all sporting boards choose their “friends” over more deserving athletes TnT will not see another gold medal
Send no one the behavior demonstrated by the TTGF, is not just wrong but inhumane. Mentally damaging and will forever show why this country suffers! Make an example send no one.. Integrity and transparency. They will be other olympics but first clean house, set protocols and pple of good character.
Yes but I understand that lots of people no longer recognize when something is obscene.
We have to stand for what is right. This is wrong on every level. Petition I say.
Yes. If Thema can’t go I not supporting Dick
Emir Crowne is a sport attorney who has advised on this matter. He probably can’t say much at all on this though.
Is Dick Canadian? Or holds dual citizenship ?
Dual citizenship
but ask her how she feels about her nationality …. let’s see how honest she is … then google her and you will see for yourself how she feels
Seriously Cheryl, where were you for the discussions about her heart belongs to Canada picture?! Lol. Because I was one of a handful of ppl criticizing Marisa for that while others were telling me we should be grateful she wants to represent us.
right here if her heart belongs to Canada I was not going to try to convince her to feel otherwise but I am disappointed and feel like T&T is being used because it is only because she was rejected by the Canadian team she is falling upon T&T’s back
Yeah dual citizenship but…
You all are killing me here!!!
I was like the lone voice criticizing this picture, other ppl were criticizing me for criticizing the picture and liking the comments that said we should be grateful she wants to represent us…
Where the heck were all of you?! Lol.
And Cheryl and Lou-Ann, people were actually trying to convince me that her “split loyalties” were totally understandable and now people have nothing but hate to throw her way.
Trinis need to be medicated yes…
Chabeth are you familiar with this quote “you cannot serve two masters because you will love one and hate the other” I guess that is my medicine….
Nope. I was also against it. I even questioned how she reached to representing T&T. I suspect that she was not good enough to represent Canada and did not make their team, so she/her mother thought she would be a shoe in for T&T. Unfortunately, neither they nor the Lue Shues took Thema into consideration or the support that Thema has. They thought we would be SO happy to have a faarin person go up for us. Big mistake!
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HostGator has dragged its feet. You live and you learn. I’ve been trying to sort this matter out since mid-February.
The site is growing fast and the growing pains are really frustrating. I’m sorry for the inconvenience.
You should get on by refreshing. And we will continue to improve our infrastructure.
Lasana Liburd refreshing will work sometimes but because of the foot traffic …… Host gator is the worst I recommend …. Godaddy ….. Better hosting ….. Better layout etc etc
Well, I may have a hard decision to make at some point. I’m trying to avoid moving because of the downtime. So I am looking to upgrade package. And they are taking their sweet time in seeing about that…
Lasana Liburd bummer ….. Work it out bro ….
While I agree with u Lasana, don’t u think that will open up another can of worms? It may be an honest and nobel move now, another time it may be vindictive
Can’t we do anything right in this place? Agreed Helen, gymnasts are very very competitive against their own. Egos abound.
Nothing!
I wonder what CAS might say. That might be Thema’s only chance.
..They will all scream bloody murder for government interference and cry out for protection from their international federation..
Let them scream murder. Government funding is not a right.
“The TTGF response was bullish” misprint.
Hahaha
I had to re-read it too!
This sort of thing happens with almot every spirting group. Gymnastics is one of the worst tho. We have people trying to satisfy their egos thru their children in events they never had the guts to try
the best line in the Coach’s letter or rebuttal is when he said “I have been to the Olympics”
Slap!! to the TTGF…
You can’t force any NSO to change anything. You can only advise and persuade. And if you are not prepared to use the big stick of funding, what leverage do you have?
An organisation this cunning is suddenly going to decide to make itself vulnerable through changing its constitution of its own free will?
They would probably roll over laughing at that one.
Nothing, thank you much
Well nothing..
Very good answer Lasana, I appreciate your sentiments. I would hate to see TNT not represented though.
I am honestly not seeing any other result than the TTOC succumbing to the craftiness of the TTGF and allowing Dick to go. Williams has the option to sue although nothing may come of that. I do agree with the Minister’s position though with 1 reservation: Force all NSO’s to change their constitution to allow for a more democratically elected board (although I’m not sure if that is even legal)
I can’t believe that a small group can be so powerful to make the decision they did. I still say Geddert did some damage.
I concur. He gave them the dagger and he MUST have known that he’d done so. This reeks of “here’s your 30 pieces of silver and don’t worry, you can blame us afterwards”.
In professional, competitive sports, such as gymnastics, injuries are rampant with EVERY athlete. Hardly any athlete in the sport goes to an event 100%. They either have budding injuries, recurring injuries, or healing injuries. Geddert, was following the rules. He HAS to report any injuries sustained, he HAS to give his athlete the option of pulling out, he HAS to let his athlete be cleared by the accredited medical board for each event. Withholding any of that information would be a breach of contract. The TTGF, if they had any real concerns, as to the athlete’s health, was supposed to follow up, via written, and voice correspondence. They were also supposed to order a medical report, from the accredited medical staff for the event. They did no such thing. They manipulated the report, to suit their own underhand dealings.
You better believe it … in all boards set up to manage sport in this country. ..once it has TT b4 it this is how its governed…having been privy to TTBBC the advisor had all the say…he was the board and everyone else was just filling #’s… its sad yes.., also being privy to the girls football team… they almost always do same and bring in players who have Trini parents to take positions like goal keeper etc some months b4 match and they are almost always chosen to play leaving our girls who train together here on the benches… treating our girls substandard to the one’s who live canada and america…
Lasana will you support Dick if she is chosen?
I will wish her well if she is chosen Shireen. Because she is representing T&T and there is no proof that she did nothing wrong–even though she might have allowed herself to be used to hurt Thema.
However, if she isn’t chosen, I would understand that decision too.
And, unless Thema personally endorses her, it is hard to see Dick being chosen.
And Thema certainly doesn’t owe Dick any solidarity under the circumstances.
I hope Thema’s counsel pursues this all the way to the Courts as well..
Lasana Harding v Kerrigan in the making. the TTGF also has a responsibility to shape the relationships that the athletes have in a competitive environment where spots are limited.
If Marisa goes, I’m not how that affects the TTOC president’s credibility…
So if Dick goes I guess some Trinis won’t be supporting her. Nobody is guilt tripping anyone, we all fell sad for Thema but the decision is not ours, at best we can support our rep.
NEVER! because she is representing herself Lue Shue and the TTGF
that is the weakness on which corruption thrives…
No support!!
I dont support shit… Sorry…. What The TTGF did is un supportable. They literally disgust me. I am sorry for boyh girls tho
How to support someone who not even sure she want to fly T&T flag? Somebody explain that to me…
Well I guess Trinidad and Tobago will not be represented at the Olympics in Gymnastics … Nobody can guilt trip me and I hope neither can they guilt trip the TTOC … Yes I will look an 18 years old in the eye and tell her she is NOT going to the Olympics because she is piggybacking on a 20 year old who did all the hard work and she now slides in by favoritism and nepotism !
I guess the TTGF PR machinery is crossing Ts and busy crafting a case for public consumption to justify their actions.
..Occupy..
Why is this a tough decision? Don’t we have ethics? Are we going to allow ourselves to railroaded just so we could say, ‘Trinidad and Tobago had an Olympian in gymnastics’? Because that’s what Dick’s participation means!
There is more ‘upside’ for local aspiring gymnasts if a stand is made for what is right. This is not complicated. If Trinidad and Tobago is capable of producing one ‘Williams’, then we are capable of producing two. If ‘Dick’ is pushed on us, then that may kill ANY chance of producing another ‘Williams’.
well said Richard Zen O’Brien.
and we didn’t even need Dick to say ‘Trinidad and Tobago had an Olympian in gymnastics’
Let the TTGF rue the day they misbehaved in public office!!!
The thing is eh….we know Thema as a child tumbling with the little tumblers club, our expectation then was for her to make the olympics…why deny her now, we never heard about Marisa before…smh
you saw this photo? it could explain why
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100137676846464&set=a.681765195094.2107263.17303019&type=3
The TTOC just needs to be the adults in the room since the TTGF are behaving like kids.
The gymnastics fraternity had consultation a year or two ago with Elton Prescott SC and recommendations were made to adjust the constitution. The TTGF executive apparently rejected those recommendations. Just as the WICB has done.
Change won’t come easy here.
I hope it’s nothing!!!
Unbelievable
..Well, I have here previously the MOS happy with everybody. AND I have said here previously I believe in grassroots democracy. People have to claim ownership of their sport. Simple. Let’s see if the practitioners of gymnastics are willing or not to accept the TTGF’s bull shit and allow them to resume normal service..
I have to agree with him, the TTGF board needs to go and we must continue to nurture our promising gymnasts. Btw if I was Thema I would have accepted US citizenship and contest on their behalf.
Very good article. I missed a lot of the follow up interviews today with the Minister and TTOC. We between a rock and a hard place. I do not envy the decision makers
Agreed it was a good article however i noted he ended “So please, while you chastise our young and aspiring, understand that these young boys and girls, men and women—whether born in Trinidad and Tobago or outside of our shores—have as much right to be proud of who they are as any of us”
I’m not convinced she is proud to represent T&T an Olympic place yes
Nothing, and scrap the TTGF
Geddert, in his preamble messed things up even more. Still Kwesi there is no need to bash Dick. She is representing TNT. I sincerely hope that this kind of thing never happens again. Shame on the TTGF
“there is no need to bash Dick. She is representing TNT.”
she’s not representing us at the Olympics yet. She MAY represent, but it’s not a foregone conclusion.
and she is on record as expressing her true allegiance to Canada.
Now if there was no local bred alternative, I would support her. But what was done to Thema was an injustice. An injustice that threatens to compromise all athletic development in T&T. because endorsing what the TTGF did, by accepting their behaviour with only some words thrown their way sideways, ENCOURAGES this kind of malfeasance. Look at WICB. Same thing!!
As a patriot, and as the father to two boys aspiring to be athletes…I cannot encourage this shit. And I would hope that we all get off our complacent asses and say no to this shit…
Shaka Hislop did this Op-Ed a month or two ago on Marisa Dick: http://wired868.com/2016/02/27/some-of-marisas-critics-would-make-trump-blush-shaka-joins-gymnastics-debate/
Keith, I think the TTGF outmanoeuvred all the watch dogs here constantly. And with a suspect constitution at their disposal, it is no surprise why they are virtually immovable.
The TTGF does not have a one club-one vote system. It is a delegate system and essentially they can vote for themselves to stay put.
And the Sport Minister has said he will continue to fund them no matter what anyone else says.
So this just dies here?
It doesn’t have to. It depends on how badly the public wants change now.
There’s a petition. If none of the organisations can fix this then it’s up to people power. That board needs to go.
https://www.change.org/p/the-minister-of-sports-and-youth-affairs-the-honorable-darryl-smith-cut-funding-to-the-trinidad-and-tobago-gymnastics-federation-now?recruiter=22275829&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
The Minister really can’t do anything in this situation but the Ministry needs to take a good hard long look at the governance structures of al NSOs.
Because in this particular case idk what qualifications any of these executive members had that would enable them to make an educated determination about whether an athlete is fit for competition or not. And across many NSOs we seem to have ill-informed people making decisions to the detriment of the sports and the athletes.
Well, Darryl Smith has said clearly that he will not stop funding the TTGF.
I really don’t know how the TTGF spends its money but I wouldn’t support defunding. Innocents get hurt through defunding.
But the ministry should demand a change to the governance structure or something. Because many NSOs are littered with people who really should not be the decision makers for the sport. And it is killing sport in this country.
I mean up to now, the TTGF has not said why it prefers Marisa.
The Lue Shues prefer Marisa, it is all about them
Off the record, they say Marisa is a better athlete. And the Sport Minister cannot change the structure of the TTGF. His only weapon is funding and he said he will not use that.
Of course the sport minister can change the structure. The ministry is the one that has demanded that all NSOs change to LLCs.
As for Marisa she did place 50th at worlds one year which is the highest placing the country has ever attained and plus she was injured for commonwealth. But the question remains, what qualifications do the people who have determined her to be the better athlete have to be able to determine that?
But again, I think the criteria has to change. Idk how many sports have their final qualifier for an event six months ahead of time.
This Olympic qualifier is in April and the qualifying event for it is in October? For a sport like gymnastics? That’s so injury-prone?
The Minister can request that NSOs change to LLCs. He can’t demand anything. Generally, you take the carrot and stick approach to negotiations.
Smith has already ruled out the stick.
Leisel Margot Thorne, are you involved in gymnastics? Do you know how many clubs there are? How did the Lue Shues become so powerful in this thing? They are only two voices. How are the able to get the other executive members on board with what they want to do? Did they bring money to gymnastics or something?
Chabeth Haynes it seems like what ever they say goes. I am only repeating what I saw posted since this thing happen. And when you see them ask them if they bring money into the sport, I want to know too
Chabeth Haynes maybe this will answer your questions. The Lue Shues and the Dicks.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100137676846464&set=a.681765195094.2107263.17303019&type=3&theater
That photo doesn’t prove anything though Leisel.
Yeah. I’m not sure what the photo says other than they took a photo together. Was it at a gymnastics event? When Lue Shue was president?
I think the more important thing is why the other members of the executive didn’t stand up for Thema.
Lasana, the conversation about what the ministry can do is more complex than that but another night…
It was at the Toronto Pan Am. Lue Shue was there legitimately as was Marisa Dick and everyone else.
So I have no idea why Loop TT or anyone else thinks it is such a scoop.
It is fine that they are friendly. Nothing wrong in that.
Lasana Liburd Lol… I will leave it there
I am completely unfamiliar with the ttgf’s constitution but I am sure that it is a recipe for unbalanced and unchecked power.
Lasana, when you said defund I thought you meant immediately.
When I say the ministry can do something regarding governance structure I mean it can say this is our idea of good governance structure and these are our guidelines etc etc and we’ll only associate with NSOs who meet our guideline. So I think we’re on the same page regarding funding (phew!) I just thought you meant immediately with no room for the NSO to make adjustments.
Of course, we could always start by defunding private clubs…are you on board with that yet? Lol?
Lol
This entire thing is upsetting. The TTGF must go now, they should be sued every last one of them should pay.
You can sue the TTGF. But it wont have any body. Administrators can’t be sued individually. That is the weakness of the system.
Steups
If the TTGF isn’t an LLC and you sue the TTGF and it doesn’t have the money to pay then the administrators become liable.
Hmmm let’s see how TNT patriotism works.
How so Kwesi? You know that for sure?
I justusfind it hard to believe that you prepped to be in Brazil by Sunday noon, if you get the call in Canada on Saturday morning. That suggests to me an unusual amount of preparedness for significant travel. That suggests she may have been aware of the opportunity.
I don’t have proof. but circumstantial evidence convicts her in my mind…
Bags packed, tickets and hotel booked long time
Kwesi…she was in a competition, had a five hour journey to Edmonton etc…so you will hang her on circumstantial evidence? Awrite then
LOL!! but we do that all the time in T&T!! Calder Hart thief, ent?
she want to represent T&T…take Trini judgment!!
She was not in a competition, the story is she was on her way to one. She was definitely prepared for 18hrs of transit, which means she knew she was going, at least 24hrs before Thema’s camp. She was also en route to Rio, long before Geddert was even informed that Thema was axed
Wait a minute …. Aren’t alternates always supposed to make the trip????
You mean to say if Thelma fell down a stair the night before that Dick was supposed to fly from T&T to get all the way there in time??
Don’t you all notice that in football and any other game, even in dance like ballet that the alternate always has to be waiting in the wings??? What on earth is wrong with you people??
I don’t think you can say the TTGF backs the TTOC, as the Olympic rules state the (gymnast) athlete that competes at the Test Event and qualifies would be the same at the games..
I said the TTGF backed them into a corner which is different what you just wrote.
Well you’re right..
I meant, even if the TTGF should state they want Thema to go at this point I don’t think it’s their choice..
All of that is in the story actually Jeston Lett
I would prefer that TNT had a representative at the Olympics, honestly I think her coach messed up big time.
I really don’t see the need to bash Dick, it’s unfair. Thema was dealt a teribble blow, but please stop the nonsense by bashing Dick.
Dick is complicit in the whole thing.
Very much so.
Dick could at least open her mouth and verbally do the right thing. So bash have to pass for that. Her hands aren’t clean, she’s old enough and she has sense so can’t claim innocence
Yes there is need to bash Dick. Would you do what Dick did and comfortably go to Rio under these given circumstances Shireen ? This assuming she didn’t have extensive dialogue with Thema or other persons involved. Which I’m pretty sure didn’t happen.
open her mouth and be victimized by the same people who orchestrated this whole thing? who’s to say that she’s comfortable? I don’t think it’s fair to drag her into this. A few months ago when Dick made headlines for introducing the new move werent we all supportive and accepting of her.
There is no need to bash Dick. However, thinking that Dick, is/was, ignorant of all the behind the scenes workings to get her to Rio, is ludicrous!!! She even changed her attitude towards Thema, early on. She is just as complicit in the blame for a lack of ethics. Yes she’s a very talented athlete, but, also a dangerous one. As she and her camp would stop at nothing to get her to the top.
is it ultimately ethical if she stands up for thema and both of their chances are sabotaged by the goodly TTGF and we have no representation at all?
Kyle your statement supports why Dick should be bashed. Because she’s actively involved in the plot.
Back in January – three months after Williams had earned the spot at the April test event – Dick (in being interviewed on her move) said: “Only one of us gets to go to the Olympics, so it’s kind of a cutthroat time. But it’s exciting.” That article – and every other in which she participated – indicated that she and Williams were still in competition…when in fact she was the alternate. That’s why the local media – and many people – didn’t realise that already Williams was being undermined in an unacceptable way. That does not look innocent to me. It more looks complicit.
*Bim Bih Bih Dim Dim*
Caroline Taylor exactly!!
You are all over interpreting Dick’s guilt. Competition will always exist who is the main performer or player and who is the alternate. You are seeing only color. Get over it, not everything is about race. Even as the organizers TTGF may have done that, it’s overreaching to also accuse the athlete of conniving to take the spot unfairly
Which comments in this sub-thread are about colour or race? If it were about race, speaking for myself, I should be defending Dick as another mixed race, bi-national woman – rather than looking rationally at the timelines and behaviours, and being guided accordingly. You were right about one thing: not everything is about race, and some things really are over-reaching.
Read above and the entire thread Caroline.
Alternates are always supposed to be ready to go so it mystifies me why people are reading so much into it. Granted it was before the actual day of competition for Thema but no serious gymnast would start packing last minute.
Re the comment, you posted it on this sub-thread, where no mention was made of race; it perhaps should have been directed to someone else in the main thread. Re Rio/Dick – she was competing at another event in Canada. By all accounts, she was not going to be in Rio to stand by as alternate, and changed plans hastily after receiving a last minute call from the TTGF to *replace* Williams – a call that seems to have gone out to her before Williams’ team was even contacted. What happened here was (putting it mildly) suspect, and quite possibly (likely?), cruel and unethical. And that, again, has nothing to do with colour or race. It’s what all facts in evidence point to.
..Let’s see now what: 1) Brian Lewis, 2) the member clubs of the TTGF, 3) the MOS, and 4) the aggravated public will do. In terms of representation in Rio it really is Dick or nobody. But these cynics in the TTGF should be made to pay a price for their unethical actions..
Couldn’t get any clearer than this. Crystal clear
They won’t resign. Their egos have already taken them this far.
So the IGF rules state Marissa or nobody but reference is made to the Minister refusal to intervene? What’s suggested he do? Call the IGF and demand they change their rules to suit T&T?! ??
Reference was made to his failure to attempt intervention sooner and he was asked to comment on the possibility of pulling funding from the TTGF.
I don’t know that anyone asked him to do anything else.
the Minister CAN’T intervene. This is now all in the TTOC’s court.
Let’s see if Mr. Lewis has the courage to stand up to the conviction of his words…
Methinks Mr Lewis spoke severely out of turn.
But at the end of the day I cared nor do I still care which one of them goes eh. The only reason this sparked my interest is the archaic reaction to the top less IG pic. Other than that meen bothered
Kwesi Prescod, did someone say the Minister can intervene?
I don’t think he spoke out of turn. He said the exactly the right thing…
now we see if he has the belly to back it up! The TTGF says Marisa or nobody?….if I was Lewis, the answer easy – Nobody!!
Just reiterating the point, Lasana.
I still don’t understand what is the problem with Thelma not being allowed to compete smh
what? it not obvious? The TTGF didn’t want the little black girl representing T&T…regardless of whether she actually trained here. No. The TTGF preferred the other girl…maybe because she’s a friend of the VP? who knows? but the bias was there…
So the Injury wasn’t a part of it? Along with the comments from her coach
the (non) injury is the excuse used to attain what they always wanted.
Consider, if the decision was made 1am on Saturday morning, how could Lue Shue and the Dicks, book tickets, hotels and be in Brazil by Sunday noon? Really?
Brian they waited to the “last minute” to withdraw Thema and say Marissa is their candidate using injury as Thema’s issue. No consultation with coach, athlete, or physio. It was a well fabricated plot to allow Dick in, since the issue went public.
Smh
Marisa was already en route to Rio, when the TTGF decided to send Geddert the message that they’ve cut Thema. The entire process to get Dick to Rio was in the pipeline from inception, and if the top less photo of Thema had gained any real traction, Thema would have been out since then. The TTGF’s actions were not only underhand, but, very cruel.
No one is gonna be held accountable especially if the Minister is still going to fund a corrupt group of ppl who tries to destroy a young life.
From day one my opinion was that they never wanted Thema to represent us and I stand by that.
Keith, some clarity now.
TTGF had two elite athletes capable of making it to the Olympics and they have created a situation where neither may end up going… How do they think they shouldn’t all resign???
I said it already…to back his rhetoric, T&T is in a unique position, it already knows its placement in the Gymnastics event!!